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EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
November 29 2011 23:17 GMT
#3341
I wish I didn't read the forums theories on Gellar not being real. It makes a lot of sense of course, but it really ruined the fun for me in parts of this episode.

I'm not someone who thinks heavily about tv shows. I generally only watch the episodes once unless a friend wants to see it or something and don't really think about it throughout the rest of the week. I just look forward to the next week's episode! So I really didn't put much time into considering the Gellar-not-real theory.

Guess I must be an idiot
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dranko
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden378 Posts
November 30 2011 00:38 GMT
#3342
I was almost expecting Gellar to confront Dexter face-to-face, that would've been more shocking.

I don't care for these "mindfuck" twists anymore, they've been done to death and now I'm always looking for them.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2555 Posts
November 30 2011 01:16 GMT
#3343
I don't see why people are bashing the show for having an imaginary-friend twist. Yeah it was kinda predictable but Fight Club didn't invent the concept. Plus, I think there's gonna be an even greater reveal later on relating to the missing evidence hand that was bought off of Ebay.
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dranko
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden378 Posts
November 30 2011 02:13 GMT
#3344
On November 30 2011 10:16 Hyperbola wrote:
I don't see why people are bashing the show for having an imaginary-friend twist. Yeah it was kinda predictable but Fight Club didn't invent the concept. Plus, I think there's gonna be an even greater reveal later on relating to the missing evidence hand that was bought off of Ebay.


Computer geek had it in his apartment, did you miss that?
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
November 30 2011 02:21 GMT
#3345
Im just waiting if Deb will scissor with that psychiatrist but i doubt it'll happen Q_Q
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 04:47:30
November 30 2011 04:45 GMT
#3346
omglol, the Gellar-is-imaginary crowd was right all along! As soon as Dexter chopped the chain with the axe and suddenly the manacles just slip off, I was finally sure that Travis was the killer.
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Suvorov
Profile Joined December 2010
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 06:51:28
November 30 2011 06:50 GMT
#3347
On November 30 2011 11:13 dranko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 10:16 Hyperbola wrote:
I don't see why people are bashing the show for having an imaginary-friend twist. Yeah it was kinda predictable but Fight Club didn't invent the concept. Plus, I think there's gonna be an even greater reveal later on relating to the missing evidence hand that was bought off of Ebay.


Computer geek had it in his apartment, did you miss that?


No silly, of course he didn't miss it - he was making reference to it. Maybe the nerd guy is the ice-truck-killer v2.

On November 30 2011 11:21 Daray wrote:
Im just waiting if Deb will scissor with that psychiatrist but i doubt it'll happen Q_Q


LOL
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ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
November 30 2011 07:05 GMT
#3348
First time I have read this thread and I am not suprised that a lot of people thought that geller was imaginary. While I did suspect that the kid was a bad guy the whole time I didn't realize that geller was dead until the trapdoor that was blocked by the table. That instant you could tell it was the kid. And thinking back on the season I guess it is really easy to see how geller can be a part of his imagination.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
November 30 2011 08:31 GMT
#3349
On November 29 2011 22:45 zedi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:51 -Archangel- wrote:
On November 29 2011 17:55 ayeZuN wrote:
On November 29 2011 17:35 -Archangel- wrote:
On November 29 2011 11:23 RastaMonsta wrote:
I have a question people of TL,
I have never watched Dexter in my life yet reading all the hype and good things I am interested. I am wondering, whats so special and unique about this? Is the story and quality as good as shows such as LOST or Prison Break?
Thanks guys

Lost is the most boring show ever and Prison break is a crap show for 5year olds (or girls with a crush on the main actor).

Dexter on the other hand is the most amazing, though provoking show ever.


Season 1 and 4 of Dexter are spectacularly thrilling and very immersive. Every other season is preety much like first few seasons of Lost.

The 'most thought provoking show ever' title goes to Breaking Bad, which is phenomenal. Every single season is extremely well written and you should both check it out.

Lol no. Lost doesn't have a single season (maybe first half of season 1 when it is all still new and kind of cool before you figure out the show is just leading you on) that is equal or better to worst season of Dexter.

As for Breaking Bad, maybe. But I don't have enough time to watch both BB and The Wire but I heard better things about the The Wire so that show is on my to watch list.



Wow, you're really hating Lost. And I suppose you haven't seen season 5 of Dexter, that shit truly was horrible.


Season 5 was perfectly fine. And Lost was written by absolute hacks who never explained a damn thing (because they didn't know), and instead just claimed the show was about the characters, as if that rogue's gallery of one-note caricatures qualified as characters worthy of study.
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Pyskee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States620 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 09:07:46
November 30 2011 08:53 GMT
#3350
On November 30 2011 10:16 Hyperbola wrote:
I don't see why people are bashing the show for having an imaginary-friend twist. Yeah it was kinda predictable but Fight Club didn't invent the concept. Plus, I think there's gonna be an even greater reveal later on relating to the missing evidence hand that was bought off of Ebay.

I don't think anybody is bashing the show for split personality/schizophrenia twist; they're (we're) bashing it because it was completely obvious and it didn't really do anything other than stall Dexter and the police department. The Sixth Sense is famous because it was basically the first time it's been done in a movie -- or at least to that success and trickery. And Fight Club is not an amazing movie because of its twist. That's one part of it, but I even knew the twist from people spoiling it for me and it's still one of my favorite movies. The reasons why Tyler Durden is imaginary are more important and intriguing than him actually being imaginary, which is exactly the opposite of what they did with Gellar. Gellar isn't an embodiment of everything Travis is too scared to be. Travis is just another fucking nut job that took the Bible way out of context. The Son of Sam isn't a riveting and symbolic story, he's just a nut job that thought his dog was telling him to kill people. Interesting, but not Emmy worthy.

Is it the worst twist ever and everyone should renounce the show because of it? No, of course not; it's just a little cheesy for a show that used to be so good.

On November 30 2011 17:31 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 22:45 zedi wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:51 -Archangel- wrote:
On November 29 2011 17:55 ayeZuN wrote:
On November 29 2011 17:35 -Archangel- wrote:
On November 29 2011 11:23 RastaMonsta wrote:
I have a question people of TL,
I have never watched Dexter in my life yet reading all the hype and good things I am interested. I am wondering, whats so special and unique about this? Is the story and quality as good as shows such as LOST or Prison Break?
Thanks guys

Lost is the most boring show ever and Prison break is a crap show for 5year olds (or girls with a crush on the main actor).

Dexter on the other hand is the most amazing, though provoking show ever.


Season 1 and 4 of Dexter are spectacularly thrilling and very immersive. Every other season is preety much like first few seasons of Lost.

The 'most thought provoking show ever' title goes to Breaking Bad, which is phenomenal. Every single season is extremely well written and you should both check it out.

Lol no. Lost doesn't have a single season (maybe first half of season 1 when it is all still new and kind of cool before you figure out the show is just leading you on) that is equal or better to worst season of Dexter.

As for Breaking Bad, maybe. But I don't have enough time to watch both BB and The Wire but I heard better things about the The Wire so that show is on my to watch list.



Wow, you're really hating Lost. And I suppose you haven't seen season 5 of Dexter, that shit truly was horrible.


Season 5 was perfectly fine. And Lost was written by absolute hacks who never explained a damn thing (because they didn't know), and instead just claimed the show was about the characters, as if that rogue's gallery of one-note caricatures qualified as characters worthy of study.

No, he's right, season five actually was truly horrible.
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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 30 2011 09:11 GMT
#3351
Seems I am only person here who liked season 5. Ofc not as good as season 1 or 4, but way better than season 3
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Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
November 30 2011 09:22 GMT
#3352
On November 30 2011 18:11 Mithriel wrote:
Seems I am only person here who liked season 5. Ofc not as good as season 1 or 4, but way better than season 3


Nope, I agree with you. Season 3 was worse than 5. Still, both were pretty bad imo.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
November 30 2011 11:14 GMT
#3353
On November 30 2011 06:03 Moxx82 wrote:
At first I was thinking Gellar might have been alive for the first part of the season, and that maybe Travis flipped and killed him after Gellar killed his sister, but now I'm not so sure. It just seemed a little hard to swallow that Travis would kill his sister. If he did (probably) then he is definitely a schizo because the one side of him only wanted to protect her.

Also, I guess Travis banged himself in the face with a shovel that one episode (showed Gellar do it)???

Nobody hit anybody in the face with a shovel. That was just for the audience. It was a metaphor for Gellar taking over control from Travis while Travis doesn't remember anything.
GefilteFish
Profile Joined April 2011
12 Posts
November 30 2011 15:20 GMT
#3354
I don't get people criticizing the season for being predictable when they are following a thread whose purpose is to figure out what's going on. If you want the big reveal to have its effect, don't try to spoil it for yourself. If you go back and look at the discussion, there were just as many people arguing against the Gellar theory as there were for it. So it wasn't dreadfully obvious from the start. But there were more hints as it went on.

I think that's how it should be written. If you are really good you catch it right away, but there's still a question. If you are paying attention you'll see the evidence as it's presented. And then a lot of people won't catch it and will still be surprized. The writers had to leave some eveidence, otherwise when the reveal comes it isn't believable. The reveal is supposed to get the audience to think 'Oh yeah, there was that part I didn't get' and 'I can see it now'. If it was just some random twist it would be criticized for bad writing then too. There is no winning.
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 01:13:21
December 01 2011 01:10 GMT
#3355
On November 30 2011 18:11 Mithriel wrote:
Seems I am only person here who liked season 5. Ofc not as good as season 1 or 4, but way better than season 3


Nah, I thought season 5 was okay. Definitely not as bad as season 3. I really really didn't like how they made Lumen and Dexter romantically involved. I felt that really ruined the whole idea. Here's a long rant about why:

Seriously, that's bullshit, neither of them would probably even be able to have sex with another person so soon after their individual traumas. Seriously, we have Rita like flinching away at the idea of sex season 1, and here we have Lumen who's apparently perfectly capable of engaging in sexual conduct after presumably an extended period of time of serious rape and torture? Then Dexter who's been married to Rita for a couple years is perfectly capable of having sex with another person a few months after a wife's deaths?

It just destroyed my suspension of disbelief. This is not how actual people deal with trauma. Oh I can understand them wanting to have sex with each other, and maybe even trying to. But actually successfully having sex with each other? That's bullshit. Can you imagine the kind of thoughts you would have in your head being in either position? No way would that happen. Besides, their romance was forced anyway. It didn't really have any chemistry.

But other than that and the somewhat disappointing ending, I thought the season was pretty solid. I especially liked the episode with Astor. I kind of wish they would do more with the kids in general.
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
December 01 2011 01:12 GMT
#3356
On November 30 2011 11:21 Daray wrote:
Im just waiting if Deb will scissor with that psychiatrist but i doubt it'll happen Q_Q



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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 01 2011 01:35 GMT
#3357
I like this season. I watch the shows by myself and don't dwell to much on them afterwards, so it came as a surprise to me. At least it makes sense, and if it had to take an idea from something else, I'm glad they took it from + Show Spoiler +
Fight Club
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askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
December 01 2011 04:38 GMT
#3358
anyone whos saying gellar was not real was predictable is only saying it because they read that one clever guy's observations and now they want to all act like they would have arrived at the same conclusion too IMO

Anyways this is my first season of Dexter, I'm not sure whats up with all the hate. It doesnt matter if the previous seasons were amazing (if they are). I personally find this season to be good entertainment
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kleetzor
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany360 Posts
December 01 2011 11:26 GMT
#3359
I haven't read all of the posts, but as I was almost convinced that Gellar was actually not real and so on, I thought of a somewhat more socking way of showing that Gellar was possessing Travis.

Imagine this: Dexter and Gellar come up face to face, in the church for example, and the viewer (us) sees Dexter's face and Gellar from behind (think the scene where Brian kills the motel clerk in Nebraska), then Dexter addresses "Gellar" as Travis, and "Gellar" goes all "Come at me bro, Travis is shit"; at this point we're actually looking at a possessed Travis.

This wouldn't be mutually exclusive with finding Gellar in the freezer, even if it took shock value off it.


All in all, cool season, pretty good.


ps: how bout that sex scene, daaamn, best 2 second sex scene ever.
ps2: mazukas "in the matters of the heart,... always think with your dick" was pure gold.
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
December 01 2011 20:00 GMT
#3360
at first i was pretty sure that Gellar wasnt real. but when he killed his own sister and got beaten "by Gellar" with that shovel, i was sure that Gellar must be real. so the ending was pretty surprising. i like the season. its better than the last one.
and i found another plot hole. when Dexter and Tarivs were waiting in the car in front of the university, didnt they both see Gellar walking in? or was that only Travis?
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