EPTINT. FIRST ORDER CAPITOL - DAY
Alarms blare. Commanding Officers frantically prepare for
departure. Hux eyes the crashed Falcon in the square below.
CHANCELLOR HUX
Bomb the city! Decimate every last
being!
COMMANDER SELLIK
Our forces are outnumbered, sir.
Hux realizes the tragic truth. He lost the star wars.
INT. CHANCELLOR HUX’S CHAMBER - DAY
Hux storms into his lush chamber.
Goes to the collector’s case. Removes one of his prized
vintage lightsabers.
He activates it and IMPALES HIMSELF WITH THE PURPLE BLADE.
Hux kneels, the glowing saber protruding from his chest as
First Order ships descend in smoke and fire out the window
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hexhaven
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Sent.
Poland9282 Posts
That would be consistent with giving him scenes like this one: God, why did they think a "starkiller base" is a good idea... | ||
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Archeon
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I liked the first half of TFA, but the entire deathplanet-plot should have really been scrapped imo. Makes the rumor where they fired their playwright after half of the plot and then JJ wrote the second half pretty believable. | ||
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Drusas_
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On February 14 2020 10:15 Archeon wrote: ^yeah rewatching this this is so over the top Nazi-esque it's pretty comical. I liked the first half of TFA, but the entire deathplanet-plot should have really been scrapped imo. Makes the rumor where they fired their playwright after half of the plot and then JJ wrote the second half pretty believable. I heard the opposite, JJ wrote everything, but they stopped using what he had up until Finn and Poe escaped starship. It wasn't a confirmed source but it seemed to line up fairly well. I am of the belief that Disney boardrooms / focus groups / test audiences were to blame for the generic recycled plots. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 14 2020 14:49 Drusas_ wrote: I heard the opposite, JJ wrote everything, but they stopped using what he had up until Finn and Poe escaped starship. It wasn't a confirmed source but it seemed to line up fairly well. I am of the belief that Disney boardrooms / focus groups / test audiences were to blame for the generic recycled plots. Even JJ knows that if you gonna do a trilogy you need to plan the trilogy. If you don't have the plans then it fails, especially if it's being done by different people(which was the origin idea) | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26312 Posts
On February 14 2020 21:52 deacon.frost wrote: I am still genuinely baffled, probably will be to my dying day. Reminds me of that party game where you colllectively make a story by taking it in turns to pick the next word. | ||
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hexhaven
Finland962 Posts
On February 14 2020 22:16 Wombat_NI wrote: I am still genuinely baffled, probably will be to my dying day. Reminds me of that party game where you colllectively make a story by taking it in turns to pick the next word. You could make it work, but a constant problem with the sequel trilogy has been the lack of prep time. Disney bought Lucasfilm in December 2012, and the first film was released just three years later. The two sequels both essentially only had two years to get a finished product. All the writers and directors working on the trilogy (even the ones who were fired) have been saying that everything's been too rushed. Give the writers enough time after Ep7 to work on Ep8, and it's very doable. But Disney's thought process was that every year without a new War of Stars movie was lost revenue. e: \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Do we know that it's Kennedy and not Disney's execs? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22117 Posts
On February 14 2020 21:52 deacon.frost wrote: Which is why I blame Kathleen Kennedy, as head of Lucas Films it was her job to keep the trilogy on track through different directors. And she led Rian Johnson take a wild lft turn to actively shit on the breadcrumbs from 7 only to then go back to JJ trying to cram what he wanted 8 and 9 to be into 1 film.Even JJ knows that if you gonna do a trilogy you need to plan the trilogy. If you don't have the plans then it fails, especially if it's being done by different people(which was the origin idea) | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 14 2020 22:29 hexhaven wrote: You could make it work, but a constant problem with the sequel trilogy has been the lack of prep time. Disney bought Lucasfilm in December 2012, and the first film was released just three years later. The two sequels both essentially only had two years to get a finished product. All the writers and directors working on the trilogy (even the ones who were fired) have been saying that everything's been too rushed. Give the writers enough time after Ep7 to work on Ep8, and it's very doable. But Disney's thought process was that every year without a new War of Stars movie was lost revenue. e: \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Do we know that it's Kennedy and not Disney's execs? I can get that the details will be fucked up. But the movies were not even connected, it's like E7 tries to be SW, E8 tries to be something else while being Star Wars(wat?) and then E9 just shits all over the E8 and we are supposed to pretend it didn't happen.  How hard is to do a simple story-line which everybody will have to follow? I would understand some weird thing going on here and there, but 3 different movies? ON A MULTIBILLION PROJECT!!?!?!??? Dafuq? Or somebody lost the card where was written - Snoke is the evil dude. Snoke is surrounded by mistery. The mistery will be slightly unveiled in E8 so the true shocking exposal can be done in the 2nd half of E9. DO NOT KILL BEFORE E9!!! I am no writer myself but I would expect a brief line of story and characters and the plan what to do with them(e.g. Han Solo - needs to die ASAP, Harrison is getting crazy about him and doesn't like SW). This just seems like a chaotic project. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22117 Posts
On February 14 2020 22:29 hexhaven wrote:Do we know that it's Kennedy and not Disney's execs? Rian has talked about how he had complete freedom to do what he wants. That doesn't sound like Execs interfering in the process but a lack of direction. Which shouldn't come from Disney's execs, they don't decide on story beats for all their 200 subsidiary studio's. | ||
Falling
Canada11439 Posts
A trilogy is an interconnected story, so I think it's fair to compare it to some of the better interconnected tv series- Breaking Bad has Vince Gilligan as writer/ creator and The Wire has David Simon as writer creator. By all means, have different directors for different movies, but for goodness sake, have some creative (and NOT an exec) that has a vision for both continuing the story and how to continue beyond and out of the trilogy (in effect establishing the basis for endless stories past, present, and future.) Disney Trilogy does the opposite- right from the beginning too. TFA- 30 years of peace. Well dang it. Guess there can be no Star Wars film in between with some other characters (think X-wing series by Stackpole or Allston). The best you can have is some border conflicts or smuggling adventures, but no outright wars. Hands tied right away. And by the time the story ends we can teleport objects from around the galaxy and OP force ghosts that can interact with the physical, planet destroying lasers that can be mass produced on front line ships, etc. It's a pants on head crazy universe now and I can't imagine trying to write a 'story' now that paid attention to all the new 'rules' they put in place. But I know the only consistent thing to do is to just ignore what the previous movies did and just make up something new to get out of the latest plot trouble- that's about as far seeing as these writers seem to be. Don't pay attention to anything else that was created, nor what impact this new invention would have on future stories. Forget about it- does it solve the immediate problem in front of the characters? Do it! | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17287 Posts
2. I'm too lazy to make this news item a thread. Bob Iger is out as Disney CEO. https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/25/21153317/bob-iger-disney-ceo-steps-down-chapek-kevin-mayer-parks-products-succession Lucasfilm is not exactly thriving and EA's Star Wars exclusivity license resulted in one single player game in 8 years. They moth balled LucasArts to give EA an exclusive license ... to do nothing. LucasArts had built a reputation for being an innovative "creator first" studio. I really liked the stuff LucasArts did over the past few decades. To just throw that away... and then replace it with nothing... that's bad. I wonder what the execs at the top think of Disney+ ? I don't know much about the other aspects of Disney to comment. If an ambitious poster wants to turn this Disney news into its own thread.. that'd be great. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Falling
Canada11439 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26312 Posts
On February 26 2020 10:05 LegalLord wrote: Disney certainly botched the cash cow that is LucasFilms, that's for sure. Even during the prequel era, Lucas was making some great stuff (some of the best Star Wars games and some damn good merch), but Disney hasn't really managed to turn a really good purchase into a massive amount of money. Management incompetence is the clear cause in their failures in the cinematic, gaming, and merchandising arenas. They’ve made quite a lot of money, as much as the internet outrage would proclaim the new films as failures. On the Star Wars IP in vidya, real missed opportunity, I played a lot of LucasArts games back in my youth and you could pump stuff out in that vein again. There was a big mix of genres appearing to various demographics. You could mix big releases with relatively cheap reimaginings of the likes of Tie Fighter and make money on all of it. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14104 Posts
On other star wars news what do people think of the recent "the high republic" initiative that was announced recently? I think its a cool idea but I'm very very hopeful that they make an old republic movie especially after the visual guide was released to announce that a lot of old time old republic sith lords (including revan) are offical canon now. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On February 26 2020 10:23 Falling wrote: Anybody play Rogue Squadron that came out in 1998? Such a good game for its time. I reacquired it from Good Old Games? recently and it still holds up. But they were pumping out games all the time, and so many were great. Now they're drawing blanks though they look pretty enough. Rogue squadron was a blast! Played through it once then replayed years later to get all gold medals and unlock the secret missions. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17287 Posts
On February 26 2020 15:30 Sermokala wrote: Disney plus is the thing that I think keeps the Disney execs up at night. Not because its not doing well or not but because it represents a replacement of the largest part of their business. The Tv channels from abc to espn to the literal disney channels on cable represent the largest share of all their income. Everyone can see the bullet coming for cable a mile away and disney plus represents the companies best chance at replacing (I remember seeing in a youtube so don't quote me) roughly 40 some percent of their overall revenue. Bob iger has mentioned he was thinking of running for president in 2016 but decided to pursue fox studios and Disney plus instead. IMO, the moves Disney is making with ESPN+ are really good. Now whether that means they will successfully transition out of their reliance on cable revenues via ESPN+ revenues.. I have no clue. My "Archie Bunker" opinion of ESPN+ is that its really good. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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LegalLord
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