What Are You Reading 2018 - Page 19

On December 20 2018 03:06 Silvanel wrote:


Traditional/folk music would be Ariana Grande, Mozart would be i dont know - Bon Jovi? Beethoven would be Black Sabbath and Haydn would be Tool.

On December 20 2018 03:06 Silvanel wrote:


Traditional/folk music would be Ariana Grande, Mozart would be i dont know - Bon Jovi? Beethoven would be Black Sabbath and Haydn would be Tool.

On December 20 2018 04:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


please dont post about music ever again

On December 20 2018 04:21 Plansix wrote:

Man, you must be a blast a parties and reading groups. This and the “your analogy is stupid” post have really brought the fun to the discussion.

On December 20 2018 04:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


aren't you the guy who's too illiterate to read moby dick?

On December 20 2018 04:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


please dont post about music ever again

On December 19 2018 02:23 IgnE wrote:
Fisher’s Capitalist Realism is a short book with a provocative thesis and some powerful prose. I don’t know that I agree with his empirical evidence regarding music (remix culture frozen in pre-corporated songs unable to produce the new; jungle music in the 90s being the last real musical breakthrough, etc.) and so his larger thesis on late capitalist aesthetics gets a bit tenuous, even if he’s not entirely wrong. It would have been interesting to hear what he had to say about youtube and the igeneration, since some of the commentary and evidence on that has changed quite a bit compared to even 5 years ago.

Graeber’s book on debt is better than the one on bullshit jobs.

On December 20 2018 19:18 123Gurke wrote:

I actually did not care too much about what Fisher wrote about music and aesthetics in general, which might be a little silly since this is the bulk of the book. What I found most interesting is his description of the completely broken system of higher education in the UK. Since I know some people working at different universities there, I can confirm most of what he says. If you are not working at, say, Oxford or Cambridge, it's a shitshow.

Also what he has to say about the students he had to teach resonated a lot with me. Maybe I am getting old, but for me having cornflakes as breakfast in class is not normal behavior. Neither is wearing headphones or having telephone calls in the classroom during class. I have seen all those behaviors, and for me it was actually comforting that I am not the only one having such students and not being OK with it. I know that people have been complaining about younger generations forever, but still what I and my peers are seeing in our classrooms is beyond terrible.

Graeber also writes about the hell hole that UK academia is and I am glad that I decided not to go there but to France where we have our own problems but to me those are comparatively benign. We are also going in this direction of applying stupid techniques from management, but I am enjoying that things here as still roughly reasonable.

On December 20 2018 05:54 Silvanel wrote:


I wonder which comparison exactly got You so worked up, the Mozart one?

On December 20 2018 05:25 Plansix wrote:

Actually I’m dyslexic. Which limits my appreciation prose dense works like Moby Dick and other classics. Which is more the pity for me, since I’m unable to engage with the strongest part of many classic works and I suck at grammar. But I did buy a copy of Moby Dick after the discussion in this thread, because maybe this time will be the time?

What’s your excuse? Just a malcontent by nature?

On December 20 2018 05:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
If only staff was here to make sure the forum bullies have to be more careful, OH WAIT

On December 20 2018 23:46 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:

it was more the display of holistic ignorance

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On December 20 2018 23:46 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:

go read it instead of wasting your time here

On December 19 2018 00:01 123Gurke wrote:
I am also reading

I still have a pile of those books waiting to be read. They are really fun.