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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4731 Posts
December 10 2018 08:06 GMT
#341
I know what You mean. Both Robots and Fundation have a lot of things i dislike. Plots and characters are not convincing most of ttime, and its actually pretty light on the science part. Gods themselves might be his best book (i heard such opinions) though i admit i really dont remmber much - other than i liked at least some parts of it.
Pathetic Greta hater.
123Gurke
Profile Joined January 2005
France154 Posts
December 18 2018 15:01 GMT
#342
It's been a long time since I wrote here. So what have I read?

I finished the first three parts of The Lord of the Rings. They were actually more fun than I remembered them. Then I started part four, and, as I had feared, I stopped. That part with Frodo, Sam and Gollum traveling through bleak landscapes for hundreds of pages is just too damn boring! If anyone has any ideas that might motivate me to continue, I would be really happy since I would really like to finish this.

So after that I read
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which was quite interesting but also a little depressing.

Afterwards, I read
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which is very funny and very true in many places. I also realized that following the Graeber's definition I seem to have a bullshit job. But in contrast to the situations he describes, I am not suffering because of this but enjoying this a lot.

I am also reading
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I still have a pile of those books waiting to be read. They are really fun.
"No," she said, "but sometimes I like to watch."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
December 18 2018 15:06 GMT
#343
Good picks Gurke, those all look like fun to read.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4731 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-18 16:28:09
December 18 2018 15:46 GMT
#344
Yesterday i finished
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(Image isnt loading for some reason, here is the link: http://warbook.pl/img/ksiazka/107/sente.jpg
Which is fifth book (just recently published) in series which i really like. I would go as far as to say it is best military sf ever written and i hope it will be someday translated into english because it sure deserves it. Also i know author personally and he is a really cool guy.


Pathetic Greta hater.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5621 Posts
December 18 2018 16:43 GMT
#345
This is the fifth book - would you recommend the other four?
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4731 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-18 17:13:22
December 18 2018 17:11 GMT
#346
First is by far the worse, as a matter of fact i know that it was series of short stories which were connected to form a novel becuase of market reasons, so it is a little bit clumsy sometimes. Still i very much recommend whole series, like i said it is by far the best military sf i have read. It focuses heavily on tactical space ship combat and special ops. And its superbly thought out in its aproach to how war in space could look.
The third book in series "Forta" won Zajdel award in 2014 which is as You probably know most important polish award for fantasy and sf books. Which is a solid recommendation in itself. I would say You should defiently check it out if You like space ship combat and keep in mind that first book is worst (and has mostly ground combat).

Also who wouldnt like to read about future EU kicking ass of future US and getting its ass kicked by future China and all of them getting their ass kicked by AI.
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-18 17:25:08
December 18 2018 17:23 GMT
#347
Fisher’s Capitalist Realism is a short book with a provocative thesis and some powerful prose. I don’t know that I agree with his empirical evidence regarding music (remix culture frozen in pre-corporated songs unable to produce the new; jungle music in the 90s being the last real musical breakthrough, etc.) and so his larger thesis on late capitalist aesthetics gets a bit tenuous, even if he’s not entirely wrong. It would have been interesting to hear what he had to say about youtube and the igeneration, since some of the commentary and evidence on that has changed quite a bit compared to even 5 years ago.

Graeber’s book on debt is better than the one on bullshit jobs.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-18 17:32:02
December 18 2018 17:31 GMT
#348
Furthermore, the rise of populism and the demise of “the end of history” may require a significant reappraisal of Fisher’s sense of stalled History
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
December 18 2018 18:12 GMT
#349
On December 19 2018 02:23 IgnE wrote:
Fisher’s Capitalist Realism is a short book with a provocative thesis and some powerful prose. I don’t know that I agree with his empirical evidence regarding music (remix culture frozen in pre-corporated songs unable to produce the new; jungle music in the 90s being the last real musical breakthrough, etc.) and so his larger thesis on late capitalist aesthetics gets a bit tenuous, even if he’s not entirely wrong. It would have been interesting to hear what he had to say about youtube and the igeneration, since some of the commentary and evidence on that has changed quite a bit compared to even 5 years ago.

Graeber’s book on debt is better than the one on bullshit jobs.


sounds dumb. "le wrong generation" but in meme theory format.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
December 18 2018 18:15 GMT
#350
Critical theory in the context of music really hasn’t improved much over the last century, if IgnE’s recounting is any indication. Pretty much every critical take on the state of music reeks of Old Man Adorno’s anti-jazz ramblings lol.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
December 18 2018 18:17 GMT
#351
adorno was right about literally everything though
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
December 18 2018 18:19 GMT
#352
That may be; dressing what has already been said in contemporary drag nevertheless makes for poor criticism :D
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-18 19:52:16
December 18 2018 19:51 GMT
#353
actually mark fisher published a blog under the name “k-punk” where he published music criticism and reviews. he liked Burial’s album ten years ago, and was probably above average for a music critic. i just don’t know how to make sense of music historically speaking and critical theory’s attempts to grapple with music seem fatally ad hoc and haphazard in general.

i still liked the book and think his writings on “hauntology” and boredom are pretty good
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 18 2018 21:46 GMT
#354
The Francis Fukuyama’s musings about the End of History and humanity’s final form of government, economy and society have aged so poorly. It is firmly rooted in the 1990s boomer-ass regressive theory that human progress is linier and misguided faith in the mythical market place of ideas. But more importantly, Dragon Ball Z’s rise in pop culture has made me chuckle every time I read about his theories on the last form of government.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11363 Posts
December 19 2018 07:31 GMT
#355
Are these music guys who bemoan modern music the ones who are really big into atonality? (Particularly if they are complaining about jazz.) Because if so, my general feeling is that of Tolkien's response to his critics: "Some who have read the book, or at any rate reviewed it, have found it boring, absurd, or contemptible; and I have no cause to complain, since I have similar opinions of their works, or of the kinds of writing (music) that they evidently prefer."
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 19 2018 08:05 GMT
#356
are Joy Division and Burial atonal?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4731 Posts
December 19 2018 09:16 GMT
#357
This kind of discussion on art/music is ages old. Mozart was target of pamflets accusing him of being simplistic, common and too focused on entertainment.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 19 2018 13:49 GMT
#358
Motzart is the Ariana Grande of his time and his critics are Tool super fans?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-19 15:12:09
December 19 2018 14:59 GMT
#359
On December 19 2018 16:31 Falling wrote:
Are these music guys who bemoan modern music the ones who are really big into atonality? (Particularly if they are complaining about jazz.) Because if so, my general feeling is that of Tolkien's response to his critics: "Some who have read the book, or at any rate reviewed it, have found it boring, absurd, or contemptible; and I have no cause to complain, since I have similar opinions of their works, or of the kinds of writing (music) that they evidently prefer."

this is a stupid analogy. adorno would very much be in support of tolkien's practice of creating works for his own sake, with zero consideration of reception and the reader. adorno rightly identified the dangers of the commercialization of art and the encroachments of capitalism. atonality doesn't really figure into it beyond as a conduit through which a composer can free himself form the constraints of popular demand. his views on music is far more nuanced than "atonality good", considering he was an early champion of schoenberg et al.'s twelve tone technique - which is more or less diametrically opposed to atonality - for its artistic implications but was self-aware enough to see the limitations of "serialist orthodoxy" as more new music - darmstadt school, etc. - developed.
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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4731 Posts
December 19 2018 18:06 GMT
#360
On December 19 2018 22:49 Plansix wrote:
Motzart is the Ariana Grande of his time and his critics are Tool super fans?


Traditional/folk music would be Ariana Grande, Mozart would be i dont know - Bon Jovi? Beethoven would be Black Sabbath and Haydn would be Tool.
Pathetic Greta hater.
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