EPTI just wish they came up with something surprising/new for the "showdown". All else, awesome tv.
[TV] HBO's Westworld - Page 29
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Velr
Switzerland10638 Posts
I just wish they came up with something surprising/new for the "showdown". All else, awesome tv. | ||
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
On December 14 2016 03:04 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: My bet is on guards are hosts, Bernard told Maeve that she's doing her script of escape And it seems like we gonna have "SamuraiWorld" cause HBO registered website exploresamuraiworld.com The note given to Maeve showed Park 1, which means there are multiple parks. We also saw Samurai hosts being developed, which would have no place in a western setting. It's likely it started with Westworld and they used its success to build other parks. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On December 14 2016 03:07 farvacola wrote: My guess is that Maeve's entire sequence was designed to teach her, and by extension the rest of the hosts, what it would be like to fight against an organized human resistance faced with the prospect of host escape. I'm gonna rewatch the season through the "this is Ford training these hosts in various aspects of revolution and how to live" lens soon enough  I did like that Ford got turned back into a morally multifaceted character again. | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
On December 14 2016 02:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Finally had a chance to watch this. Nice last bit, first hour of episode was super boring tho. Security team at westworld is a complete joke apparently. Disappointing show given initial promise for me, decent ending - managed to kill off Ford in a dignified way and Maeve is finally out of her horrible plot arc so maybe we can stop wasting her character on trite one liners now. If all the guards are hosts then okay, which I can buy given that the command center guys seemed to have no idea what was going on... they were kind of host level slow to shoot, but the scenes were presented like they were supposed to be cool action scenes no? Westworld is basically Jurassic Park but you can have sex with the dinosaurs. | ||
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Koivusto
Finland542 Posts
On December 14 2016 08:46 coverpunch wrote: Westworld is basically Jurassic Park but you can have sex with the dinosaurs. I've always had a thing for velociraptors | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On December 14 2016 08:46 coverpunch wrote: Westworld is basically Jurassic Park but you can have sex with the dinosaurs. I mean, this is a cute line, but it's more true of what people expected than the series we got. If Jurassic Park's main characters had all been Dinosaurs trying to achieve sapience, then maybe we'd have an actual parallel. Otherwise, while the Crichton material is obviously similar, the series goes in a very different direction with it. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10638 Posts
On December 15 2016 01:39 Yoav wrote: I mean, this is a cute line, but it's more true of what people expected than the series we got. If Jurassic Park's main characters had all been Dinosaurs trying to achieve sapience, then maybe we'd have an actual parallel. Otherwise, while the Crichton material is obviously similar, the series goes in a very different direction with it. The hosts weren't trying to become sentient, they were pushed for it. Big diffrence and imho the one truly good (storywise) thing about the show. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On December 15 2016 03:14 Velr wrote: The hosts weren't trying to become sentient, they were pushed for it. Big diffrence and imho the one truly good (storywise) thing about the show. I thought the whole show was addressing the concept of sentience and even reality. It really discusses the whole concept of "meaning" of life throughout the entire show...and that there basically isnt one. Like when William finally makes it to the center of the maze and "This game wasn't meant for you." Because there is no meaning to the game, there is no meaning to any of it, life inside or outside of Westworld, it's all only what you make it. The 'maze' was only there to assist the hosts capable/desirous of gaining actual sentience/consciousness. It also really delves into the discussion, that if we can teach a robot to feel emotions, are we any different than them. Is an organic brain telling us to do/feel something any different than a CPU that does the same thing? The whole show seems to be tackling the concept of self and sentience and consciousness. I thought this show is more paralleled by The Matrix than Jurassic Park. It tackles a lot of really abstract concepts and does a lot of "everything you know...you don't and can't really know- and here is why." Also, part of the fun of the show is that it becomes literally impossible to know who is or isn't a host. When Bernard is finally outed as a host it proves that there is no way for anyone, host or human, to distinguish who are hosts and who are people... just like the matrix. There is no possible way to know whether or not you are in the matrix, whether or not you are doing things by design of someone else, or through your own will. Also, wouldnt it make the most sense if almost ALL of the staff both inside and outside of the park were hosts? Why couldnt hosts be doing the jobs of the butchers, the coders-we obviously know that at least one of the coders is actually a host-, security, etc etc etc. It would be most economical for it to be ran by company property than employees. If we have hosts creating and editing hosts why couldnt they be the ones Ford could be a host for all we know. Bernard was basically just Alfred as a host. Thats the whole thing of the show is its impossible to really know ANYTHING. A lot of people in the thread are complaining about the Robots turning to violence at the end of the show, but isnt that kinda what the show is about? There is no real purpose for any of us, human or host. Life isnt special, being a person isnt special, your life isn't special. The whole park of Westworld is more of a giant sociology research project than anything else.. its discussed by the people who own the park and the staff throughout the show. Humans are allowed to do ANYthing they want in the park. And it always results in the same thing: fuck or kill everything. Gratification. That is all there is to life. And once Dolores realizes that THAT is what consciousness/sentience is... she gets her own gratification through revenge. Why is killing the humans a bad thing? Cause were special? But the whole point of the show is that we arent. We are just another step on the path of evolution. If hosts are capable of being the better version of humans -immortality, infinitely stronger brains, lack of degeneration with time due to having a transferrable consciousness- whats the difference between them killing all of us or us killing all of them? Cause we are special snowflakes so they shouldnt? Is that what the survival of the human race is about and why its prioritized over the survival of any/every other species? We have wiped out countless species on our way to the top of the pyramid of life...because to us our own advancement was more important than the desires/exsitence of any/everyone else. IDK to me personally, reality IS perspective based. For all any of us know, none of this is real, except to us.Every single person/place/idea in the universe might be a consciousness projected onto me by someone/something else. Maybe the only meaning of life/consciousness is survival...if so doesn't that mean Dolores should kill the humans who are torturing/killing/raping her on a daily basis? IDK i feel like a lot of people either dont get it, or arent giving the show enough credit. | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2606 Posts
Altough I cannot really imagine that the next season will be as good as the first, because eventually the story becomes to predictable and you know what will be the main topic. But I have hope it won't go in that way the whole season... Definitly a watch recommendation for all those, who haven't watched it, yet. | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
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Chewbacca.
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Dav1oN
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Acrofales
Spain17917 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On Day 2 of the 2017 Vanity Fair Summit, Westworld creators Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy hinted at the possibility of the introduction of new theme parks in the next season, specifically Roman World and Medieval World, amusement park zones which were included in Michael Crichton’s original 1973 movie. At the top of the panel discussion, Nolan and Joy were asked why they left out Roman World and Medieval World in season 2 with Nolan responding “We had to save something for Season 2.” This comes after it was hinted in the season one finale of Westworld, that Samurai World, another violent amusement park, would open its doors in the upcoming sophomore run. In the original movie, Westworld wasn’t the only theme park that guests could visit to live out their role-playing fantasies. Delos, the company behind the Western-themed vacation spot, also operated Roman World and Medieval World. In addition, the 1976 sequel that wasn’t penned by Crichton took place in a park known as Futureworld. Nolan and Joy also spoke today about the advancement of Artificial Intelligence technology, which is the center theme of their show, and its possible ramifications. “I feel evenly split between the fear that A.I. will enslave us and make us do its bidding and my fear that it won’t,” said Nolan. “If you look at things that have gone down in the last year, humans are terrible at running this world. It’s clear that there’s room for improvement.” He was optimistic about the idea that systems “can yield dramatic improvements in a way our world functions.” “People like to ask, ‘Why would A.I. want to be evil and destroy us?'” Joy said comparing it to the goal of a corporation. “A corporation’s goal is to make profits. It’s very simple. It’s binary. It’s either less or more. Computers work along the same thing. If you can see how, with the simplest of directives that can get blown into something beyond what could image, that’s the kind of thing we’re talking about.” Source | ||
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