EPTOn December 07 2016 02:36 Yhamm wrote:
didn't you recognize her tatoo? o_O
didn't you recognize her tatoo? o_O
Probably got distracted by blonde pubes too much and thinking about how it ruins all immersion and realism blew his mind.
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Manit0u
Poland17607 Posts
Probably got distracted by blonde pubes too much and thinking about how it ruins all immersion and realism blew his mind. | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
On December 07 2016 01:39 Case123 wrote: + Show Spoiler + Wasn't her pain level set at zero anyway? So chopping off her arm didn't really cause any pain to her. God I do hate it how they deliberately chose a butch looking woman to be the violent woman, quite cliched. They should have used someone petite sort of like Delores kind of look instead to make it look less conventional. Dude that's exactly the point. She's a host, she's basically made to satisfy cliches. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
On December 07 2016 04:17 Acrofales wrote: Please can someone explain to me what on earth the point was of Maeve's entire storyline? I'm sure it's trying to make a point about free will, but even that is overshadowed by Dolores. Such a waste of one of the better actresses and more interesting characters in the season to pair her up with dumb and dumber in an entirely pointless plotline. Hector going ham was quite amusing, but completely irrelevant. Other than that, the episode was excellent. I am still unhappy with the stylistic choice for portraying William-MIB storyline, but that is irrelevant in this episode. Ties the main stories together nicely in a satisfying conclusion. However, there are a fair number of lose ends. The most obvious is security guy was surrounded by natives in last week's episode in a bit of a cliffhanger, but wasn't even mentioned this ep. Nobody noticed he was missing? Regarding William's ending: so essentially Logan dies there, right? He is butt naked in bright sunlight, no water, and trussed onto a horse that is running out the edge of the park. You'd expect something to be mentioned about a massive lawsuit vs park, or a murder investigation into William. Right? i dont know, they should have had her head explode when she leaves in the train, have everyone at the party ceremony die including the man in black, and clean up the end with logan and..... ok well apparently the man in black is william and the whole show operated on 2 separate timelines i guess this is what i get for avoiding a TV show thread for the whole season, when i am shit at understanding TV shows i better go back and watch the last ep at least | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On December 07 2016 06:05 FFGenerations wrote: i dont know, they should have had her head explode when she leaves in the train, have everyone at the party ceremony die including the man in black, and clean up the end with logan and..... ok well apparently the man in black is william and the whole show operated on 2 separate timelines i guess this is what i get for avoiding a TV show thread for the whole season, when i am shit at understanding TV shows i better go back and watch the last ep at least Only Ford may explain all this. William was wounded in his hand, not death scene at all, but even than i'm not so sure about was it real Ford killed by Dolores or not. In a building with samurai's there was a Logo of something SW (maybe sunrise world) and possibly other park? But it seems only Bernard/Teddy and Dolores got plot armor, where is headguard and why no one there noticed about him vanishing, the same thing with those girl - assistant of bernard | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18187 Posts
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On December 07 2016 04:17 Acrofales wrote: Please can someone explain to me what on earth the point was of Maeve's entire storyline? I'm sure it's trying to make a point about free will, but even that is overshadowed by Dolores. Such a waste of one of the better actresses and more interesting characters in the season to pair her up with dumb and dumber in an entirely pointless plotline. Hector going ham was quite amusing, but completely irrelevant. So, here's my theory: Maev's story represents one of the many experiences carefully curated by Ford to get the hosts to simulate consciousness. She's not actually particularly important or unique; all the hosts who are moving up the stages get to experience versions of this from time to time, with the precise experience varying due to their own developing character. Ford cultivates these experiments as a way of moving them along through suffering and decision-making so they can gradually achieve consciousness. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On December 07 2016 07:05 Acrofales wrote: I figures SW is Samurai World. Same here, I read on the subreddit Sunrise World but seeing as how Japan is the land of the rising sun, it is pretty much the same thing. | ||
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Dismay
United States1180 Posts
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FFGenerations
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
But I love the multiple endings for the "free will" hosts and questioning the very premise of it. Does Maeve making programmed decisions outside of the park make her any more free than Dolores who can make decisions on her own but has no conception of leaving the park? In different ways, they both live by Rousseau's quote "Man is born free, and everywhere he is in chains. One man thinks himself the master of others, but remains more of a slave than they are.". | ||
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
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Case123
89 Posts
On December 07 2016 09:27 coverpunch wrote: The weird part for me is if the hosts kill the human staff, then the hosts can't be resurrected again because nobody is around to collect the bodies and rebuild or repair them. They have superior intelligence to humans you don't think they can rebuild or repair themselves? | ||
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ETisME
12632 Posts
On December 07 2016 04:17 Acrofales wrote: Please can someone explain to me what on earth the point was of Maeve's entire storyline? I'm sure it's trying to make a point about free will, but even that is overshadowed by Dolores. Such a waste of one of the better actresses and more interesting characters in the season to pair her up with dumb and dumber in an entirely pointless plotline. Hector going ham was quite amusing, but completely irrelevant. Other than that, the episode was excellent. I am still unhappy with the stylistic choice for portraying William-MIB storyline, but that is irrelevant in this episode. Ties the main stories together nicely in a satisfying conclusion. However, there are a fair number of lose ends. The most obvious is security guy was surrounded by natives in last week's episode in a bit of a cliffhanger, but wasn't even mentioned this ep. Nobody noticed he was missing? Regarding William's ending: so essentially Logan dies there, right? He is butt naked in bright sunlight, no water, and trussed onto a horse that is running out the edge of the park. You'd expect something to be mentioned about a massive lawsuit vs park, or a murder investigation into William. Right? I thought her whole story is a side story that makes you question your own conscience. It's a story directed for us, the viewer while all the other is about the usual robot uprising etc. Personally i think her story is the main dish, Delores is to serve the background info that makes us appreciate her story. | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
Season 2 needs Dustin Browder and collapsible rocks. | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
On December 07 2016 11:31 Case123 wrote: They have superior intelligence to humans you don't think they can rebuild or repair themselves? I'm not sure. Maeve has left the facility and I don't think Dolores knows about the staff. | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On December 08 2016 06:39 coverpunch wrote: I'm not sure. Maeve has left the facility and I don't think Dolores knows about the staff. There is Bernard... :D | ||
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misirlou
Portugal3242 Posts
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
Oh that's true, although I'm not clear on whether he would go for the robot revolution or fight to keep the world stable. And I guess I have to ask this weird question - is Bernard self-actualized as an independent host? He's certainly self-aware at this point but can he overcome his own programming? | ||
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TerransHill
Germany572 Posts
On December 07 2016 04:17 Acrofales wrote: Please can someone explain to me what on earth the point was of Maeve's entire storyline? I'm sure it's trying to make a point about free will, but even that is overshadowed by Dolores. Such a waste of one of the better actresses and more interesting characters in the season to pair her up with dumb and dumber in an entirely pointless plotline. Hector going ham was quite amusing, but completely irrelevant. Other than that, the episode was excellent. I am still unhappy with the stylistic choice for portraying William-MIB storyline, but that is irrelevant in this episode. Ties the main stories together nicely in a satisfying conclusion. However, there are a fair number of lose ends. The most obvious is security guy was surrounded by natives in last week's episode in a bit of a cliffhanger, but wasn't even mentioned this ep. Nobody noticed he was missing? Regarding William's ending: so essentially Logan dies there, right? He is butt naked in bright sunlight, no water, and trussed onto a horse that is running out the edge of the park. You'd expect something to be mentioned about a massive lawsuit vs park, or a murder investigation into William. Right? Maeve's storyline shows a hosts reaction to the actual real world. Logan doesn't die. He was probably picked up at some point, looking like an idiot. This results in his father promoting William, because he needs someone more stable. I think the guest have some kind of tracker and can get picked up when their vital stats are low. I mean they have to make it safe for them, so there has to be something like that. Otherwise alot of people could get lost, hurt themself etc. and die. | ||
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Koivusto
Finland542 Posts
On December 09 2016 03:01 TerransHill wrote: Maeve's storyline shows a hosts reaction to the actual real world. Logan doesn't die. He was probably picked up at some point, looking like an idiot. This results in his father promoting William, because he needs someone more stable. I think the guest have some kind of tracker and can get picked up when their vital stats are low. I mean they have to make it safe for them, so there has to be something like that. Otherwise alot of people could get lost, hurt themself etc. and die. But on the other hand they have mentioned several times that it gets more and more dangerous the farther you go. Perhaps they have other means to monitor guests' safety in more central parts of the park and that monitoring diminishes once your ass is strapped onto a horse and you go all lucky luke towards unknown. | ||
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