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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
The finale was ok, nothing too surprising in there tbh. Maeve's escape was extremely dumb. Overall a decent first season, if the next season does a little bit more character development so i actually care for anybody that would be great though. Also more depth with the main themes would be nice, it seems like it's just a setting and not really an exploration of interesting questions like "what does it mean to be human", etc | ||
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Case123
89 Posts
On December 05 2016 23:06 The_Red_Viper wrote: With Hopkins gone i fear for the show quite a lot. Meh, that's what they said about Sean Bean but look how popular Game of Thrones is now. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
I really hope it's not Ford who re-programmed Maev, as it'd be completely nonsensical to have Bernard kill himself, then allow him to be healed by Team Maev without a wipe (all it did was make ep.9 more dramatic). Seeing as Ford wasn't surprised at all to have Bernard back in action near the end I'm guessing he knew about Maev, which makes ep.9 retarded and redundant (style over sense must be the writing mantra for this show). At least the burning alive from last ep made sense so they could be rebuilt without the spinal explosives. Also loved the self-playing piano as a metaphor for the partners' goal of achieving hosts that no longer needed human narratives and could 'play' themselves. | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
On December 05 2016 22:17 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Great series. It could just be finished now and it would be fine. Perfect finale. + Show Spoiler + Maeve storyline is the only weak point. I like how some software guy made a touch GUI so people at behaviour can turn off every security measure with a single touch from their smartphone. There's nothing that could ever go wrong with that. I rate this app 5 stars because it's fast and does it's job without adds ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1iPsSnW.jpg) Then they turn evil cowboy's aggression levels up to maximum with a neat animated slider, but somehow he still has the self control to wait until he gets lubed up until he makes his move for dramatic effect, even though his personality is supposed to be 100% aggression lol. Then the guards who are sent to stop the rampaging hosts don't shoot on sight for...reasons? Also does Felix hate his co-workers so much he likes them all to be murdered? Why does he facilitate all of this? He even stutters if Maeve will be ok when she leaves.... while they just killed 10+ people. It makes 0 sense....HBO can do better than that. The Ford / Arnold /Dolores conscience storyline was amazing and now that that's ended I'm a bit scared what season 2 will converge to. Felix has a strong case of Stockholm Syndrome agree with people's criticisms of the Maeve storyline though we'll see how things pan out in Season 2 but if Maeve's storyline is primarily about her finding her kid, then I care very little about how that happens | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On December 05 2016 23:20 Case123 wrote: Meh, that's what they said about Sean Bean but look how popular Game of Thrones is now. popularity =/= quality | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
I hope that Ford really died and its not a host though Granted paying Hopkins for another season would also be very expensive. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
So from what I heard/read, this show is the prequel to the movie "westworld" that was made in the 70's. The season two will be a prequel to "Futureworld", thoughts? | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
On December 06 2016 00:59 Kipsate wrote: This is some great stuff, Maeve storyline remainds dumb but will always be interesting because now shes out there going to explore the "real" world while the hosts will control(or attempt to) theirs. I hope that Ford really died and its not a host though Granted paying Hopkins for another season would also be very expensive. I read somewhere that the two main characters make 175k an episode, or 1.75mil per season, I didn't think that was so bad for a show with less significant characters than GoT, while having a similar budget. The big 5 in GoT were earning 300k an episode in the prdvious two seasons, and they'll be making 1.1mil/episode for the last two seasons. | ||
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Koivusto
Finland542 Posts
For me the biggest plus would be having Ed Harris for the next season. He gets to have his 'fair game' finally. I guess there is an actual chance that next season won't start slowly and we get action right from the start  So what do we watch meanwhile? Reruns of american ninja warrior? | ||
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Koivusto
Finland542 Posts
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Koivusto
Finland542 Posts
...they'll be making 1.1mil/episode for the last two seasons. I should've taken those acting classes | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
The William storyline was the best thing in the show, imo. That is a good, interesting, tragic character, shown brilliantly. I still get frustrated by the contrived plot. Scarecrow's post top of the page explains it well. Even the overarching Arnold/Ford/Dolores conflict has so many logical disconnections that I just kind of throw my hands up. Did Arnold win in death, was it all some elaborate plot to have Ford assassinated at a gala event? Was there any conflict at all, or were they all just hosts acting out a play that will reward them with magic sentience? I kind of don't care. It was entertaining to watch though, but typical of Nolans' stuff, character motives basically turn on a dime and you're left wanting answers that probably don't exist. | ||
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Swisslink
2949 Posts
For Maeve... the entire narrative is based on the fact that Felix is dumb as fuck. Yes, someone altered her code - and even this new code/narrative only comes to fruition IF and only IF someone is as stupid as Felix. I like that they at least tried to explain it by saying, that there's someone in the background who controlled everything. Which basically means that Felix probably could not have prevented it from happening even if he tried. Yet, Felix probably did not know this - and if he did, why weren't we told so? This would have resolved a major plothole, probably THE biggest plothole in S01. | ||
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Wintex
Norway16836 Posts
Ten episodes of pure joy. Anthony Hopkins is an amazing human, showing some really high level acting. I am actually almost one hundred percent content so far. Comparing it to other shows, I really didn't feel any slowdowns, any boring parts. The immense tension created and the way it was released was a showcase in how to create a drama. I have no qualms. I have no regret. I can accept stupid guards. I can accept if people don't see why I feel this, and I honestly don't care at all if they don't like it. This was just what I wanted. Bravo. | ||
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JazVM
Germany1196 Posts
2. I think Anthony Hopkins will be back as a host 3. I think Elsie and the security guy are alive and not hosts | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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Swisslink
2949 Posts
On December 06 2016 07:15 JazVM wrote: 1. I still think Felix is a host Well, Maeve recognized Bernard as host and Maeve said that Felix is human. So I really doubt that Felix could be a host at this point - unfortunately. 2. I think Anthony Hopkins will be back as a host I think it's more likely the other way round: The Ford that died was a host and the real Ford still pulling the strings in the background. 3. I think Elsie and the security guy are alive and not hosts That's quite likely, imo. I really expect that to happen, tbh. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On December 06 2016 07:27 Swisslink wrote: I think it's more likely the other way round: The Ford that died was a host and the real Ford still pulling the strings in the background. Ahh, that would actually be good and wouldn't be cheap because it would allow her to think she killed a real person. | ||
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
On December 05 2016 15:40 FiWiFaKi wrote: So clearly this was all Ford's plan all along... He had the same idea as Arnold, except Ford realized that they need to give them more time to make mistakes. I feel like the show tied off all the loose ends well, and the satisfaction is there, where there's no real cliffhangers, and you can stop watching the show here if you'd like. Though I'm curious to see where to show would go from here, since the setting and characters would have to completely change for the future seasons. That is the problem and the deal breaker for me. All interesting human characters are now dead.(?) Is the thougth that I should empathize with the hosts? I saw them as tools driving the story forward, and the end felt more like a zombie apocalypse than anything else. I'm considering to stop watching the show altogether, even though the first 3 or 4 episodes were the most well written and interesting start to a series I've ever seen. | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On December 06 2016 07:29 SK.Testie wrote: Ahh, that would actually be good and wouldn't be cheap because it would allow her to think she killed a real person. Wouldn't she know that he's a host though? The same way Maeve knew Bernard was one. And 'bout Felix, maybe Ford knew he was playing with that bird, and that's not a coincidence she woke up when he was fixing her | ||
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