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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18190 Posts
November 17 2016 17:47 GMT
#321
Insofar as I recall, there was a conversation between Logan and William in which Logan talked about Arnold and his death. Googled it, and the conversation is supposedly in episode 2.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 17 2016 18:04 GMT
#322
it's at the start of episode 5 when they arrive in Pariah
Logan doesn't say the name Arnold, but he talked to William about one of the partners who founded the park who killed himself right before the park opened. they have no idea who died: no name, no picture, even with the help of lawyers. William remarks after that "whoever designed this place, you get the feeling they don't think very much of people".
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 19 2016 13:27 GMT
#323
what if everyone is a host and Hopkins is the only human left
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
November 19 2016 22:05 GMT
#324
On November 19 2016 22:27 Lylat wrote:
what if everyone is a host and Hopkins is the only human left


It would be kinda awesome if that ends up being his endgame. That the whole "I've created a world [in the park]" thing actually means "I'm remaking literally the entire world, with me as its idle ruler. I have been replacing important people one by one until my creations are truly the rulers of this world, and you all are merely their... guests."
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
November 21 2016 06:01 GMT
#325
I have to ask this question - if Ford dies, does the entire park go tits up? It feels like despite all the nominal controls, he's the only one who has any real power. The security teams, the body collectors, the designers, the writer, and the behavior team seem to have no real control over erratic hosts.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-21 11:31:23
November 21 2016 11:27 GMT
#326
I just finished episode 7

Holy shit this show is amazing

So he didn't come out and say it but he seemed to imply that he (Ford) had Arnold killed
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-21 12:47:19
November 21 2016 12:41 GMT
#327
guys quick question

is this show good, or very good, or game of thrones?

cuz I'm bored of wasting time on mediocre shit that doesn't matter if you watched or not
Age of Mythology forever!
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
November 21 2016 13:06 GMT
#328
I think to judge this show properly one needs to see if it makes sense in the end.
spacecoke
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden112 Posts
November 21 2016 13:21 GMT
#329
On November 21 2016 21:41 mantequilla wrote:
guys quick question

is this show good, or very good, or game of thrones?

cuz I'm bored of wasting time on mediocre shit that doesn't matter if you watched or not


The number of tits you get to see is on par with GoT, maybe even higher!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrCWmQZqPT4
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-21 14:43:31
November 21 2016 13:49 GMT
#330
this episode 8, what a fucking mess

How I see it now:

-35 years ago, before the park opened. They are teaching the hosts to dance (strangely enough, we have the exact same shot of the girl walking & smiling in this episode than we had in episode 3 in Ford flashback). For some reasons, Dolores kills everyone and herself (?), and I think Arnold probably asked her to do so in some ways (the Dolores & Bernarnold scenes). This scene will all the corpses and the small village looks really similar to the scene of Wyatt's carnage scene. (I think it inspired Ford's new story)

-30 years ago, not long after the park opened. All the scenes with William & Dolores. Something happened in the last 5 years that caused the small village where the hosts where dancing to now be under tons of sands, but we can still see the bell tower (the same bell tower Ford is watching at with the kid host Robert in episode 2)

-"now", all the scenes with MiB and Ford, etc. We know ford "dug up some old village", which is the village he was watching at in episode 2. This same village was still under sand when Williams & Dolores was there, so they defo can't be in the same timeframe as MiB. Here, Dolores is "reliving" her past scenes. There are some many scenes of her doing the same things she had done with William but now being alone.
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Hexe
Profile Joined August 2014
United States332 Posts
November 21 2016 16:53 GMT
#331
On November 21 2016 21:41 mantequilla wrote:
guys quick question

is this show good, or very good, or game of thrones?

cuz I'm bored of wasting time on mediocre shit that doesn't matter if you watched or not

Westworld is pretty fun. It has great production like GoT, but the acting isnt quite as good. I'm not a fan of the timeline jumps and over direction.

GoT is more on the good soapy drama side of things, WW is more of a good mystery / thriller. If you love Thrones and can manage to get past the first two eps of Outlander, that one rivals the HBO show in a lot of ways. It surprised me quite a bit.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-21 17:58:46
November 21 2016 17:36 GMT
#332
Think I might be done with this show... that was a bloody awful episode.

Maeve storyline requires such complete suspension of disbelief as to render it uttery impossible to enjoy, and the rest was not much better.

Sad because I loved this show... probably will finish out the season but if it doesn't improve I'm done

If Elsie was actually killed as was implied, and isn't replaced by a host, that means they killed off two of the more enjoyable characters and instead left us with the fairly unlikeable ones in their place (board woman and pretentious auteur guy).
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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-21 18:13:09
November 21 2016 18:00 GMT
#333
On November 22 2016 02:36 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Think I might be done with this show... that was a bloody awful episode.

Maeve storyline is requires such complete suspension of disbelief as to render it uttery impossible to enjoy, and the rest was not much better.

Sad because I loved this show... probably will finish out the season but if it doesn't improve I'm done

If Elsie was actually killed as was implied, and isn't replaced by a host, that means they killed off two of the more enjoyable characters and instead left us with the fairly unlikeable ones in their place (board woman and pretentious auteur guy).


Agreed, episode 8 was by far the worst episode so far. Especially the Maeve storyline makes absolutely no fucking sense. Felix/Sylvester literally let Maeve wreak havoc in Westworld and until the end of the season no one seems to give a fuck about it.
There are people everywhere to protect the guests and they jump in immediately, yet somehow this carnage remains unknown? How the fuck?

I still have some hope that Felix is actually a Host, because otherwise that's just a huge plothole I could not really forgive a series like Westworld. But after Ep. 8 I don't think that Felix is a host anymore.

I still like all the other storylines, but the Maeve parts are just utter rubbish.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-21 19:34:34
November 21 2016 18:31 GMT
#334
Last episode was weird as fuck, but I still think it was okay considering it confirmed many big theories without going for any unexpected ahaaa got you reveals which will probably happen in next episode with Maeve so Im ready to hate next episode even more.

Also not sure anyone has pointed that out but whenever Hector appears in Sweetwater the piano in the bar plays a song with 'black' in the title - black hole sun, paint it black, back to black
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Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
November 21 2016 20:18 GMT
#335
On November 21 2016 22:06 Garbels wrote:
I think to judge this show properly one needs to see if it makes sense in the end.


You like that Lost guy with 10k posts in a Lost forum that decided after 8 years the show is shit.
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
November 21 2016 21:37 GMT
#336
On November 21 2016 21:41 mantequilla wrote:
guys quick question

is this show good, or very good, or game of thrones?

cuz I'm bored of wasting time on mediocre shit that doesn't matter if you watched or not

It's a cultural moment, with lots of dark themes that think they are smarter than they are and trying to trick the fans with huge plot twists. Game of Thrones has more timeless themes and isn't trying as hard to trick the viewers, since the fan base already has endless speculation about the books.

I think it's very good but it isn't "must watch" unless you want to get caught up in this latest wave of viewing.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 21 2016 21:52 GMT
#337
On November 22 2016 02:36 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Think I might be done with this show... that was a bloody awful episode.

Maeve storyline requires such complete suspension of disbelief as to render it uttery impossible to enjoy, and the rest was not much better.

Sad because I loved this show... probably will finish out the season but if it doesn't improve I'm done

If Elsie was actually killed as was implied, and isn't replaced by a host, that means they killed off two of the more enjoyable characters and instead left us with the fairly unlikeable ones in their place (board woman and pretentious auteur guy).

that asian guy....
+ Show Spoiler +
is annoying as fk
© Current year.
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
November 21 2016 22:59 GMT
#338
On November 22 2016 06:52 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2016 02:36 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Think I might be done with this show... that was a bloody awful episode.

Maeve storyline requires such complete suspension of disbelief as to render it uttery impossible to enjoy, and the rest was not much better.

Sad because I loved this show... probably will finish out the season but if it doesn't improve I'm done

If Elsie was actually killed as was implied, and isn't replaced by a host, that means they killed off two of the more enjoyable characters and instead left us with the fairly unlikeable ones in their place (board woman and pretentious auteur guy).

that asian guy....
+ Show Spoiler +
is annoying as fk

Do you mean the character or the acting? I would say both, to be honest.
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
November 22 2016 01:39 GMT
#339
On November 22 2016 02:36 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Think I might be done with this show... that was a bloody awful episode.

Maeve storyline requires such complete suspension of disbelief as to render it uttery impossible to enjoy, and the rest was not much better.

Sad because I loved this show... probably will finish out the season but if it doesn't improve I'm done

If Elsie was actually killed as was implied, and isn't replaced by a host, that means they killed off two of the more enjoyable characters and instead left us with the fairly unlikeable ones in their place (board woman and pretentious auteur guy).


I am suffering your pain too, time to search a new series to be entertained , for me this one was the worst episode of the series by far, and how they are going to fix it?.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17610 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-22 01:43:50
November 22 2016 01:43 GMT
#340
On November 21 2016 21:41 mantequilla wrote:
guys quick question

is this show good, or very good, or game of thrones?

cuz I'm bored of wasting time on mediocre shit that doesn't matter if you watched or not


This is no Expanse or Fortitude but it's fairly good. Will have to wait some more to see the whole picture, when all the pieces fall in their places. So far it's a slow burn thriller/drama with plenty of characters which play more or less impactful roles that seem to be hinting at something bigger that they all somehow tie down to. Until such time as this is revealed it's hard to say since in the end it can be anything ranging from amazing to utter garbage. Nothing special so far and I believe the entire show will rest on some big reveal that will put everything in context (hopefully).
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