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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 26 2018 19:27 GMT
#3981
On March 27 2018 02:41 RuiBarbO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 02:07 andrewlt wrote:
The manga is the anime after the story has gotten past focus groups.


Depending on what you think of focus groups for fiction I feel like this could be a positive or a negative


So far it's been positive. There's a theater near my work that holds test screenings where you can meet the director. It feels like the anime is the test screening and the manga author corrects the silliness.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15726 Posts
March 26 2018 20:57 GMT
#3982
On March 27 2018 02:41 RuiBarbO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 02:07 andrewlt wrote:
The manga is the anime after the story has gotten past focus groups.


Depending on what you think of focus groups for fiction I feel like this could be a positive or a negative


To me, the manga is canon and anime takes 10 points of "cohesion" and puts them into "flashy". Never forget saiyan god Goku punching Beerus' fist was about to destroy the entire universe.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 29 2018 19:58 GMT
#3983
Too bad that we'll have to wait for a while to get more. That first episode was great. The teamwork finally and 17 being MVP and wishing everyone back over the trip around the world. I always did think that was quite silly to wish for lol, especially if you can have anything.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
March 30 2018 00:57 GMT
#3984
This series was dope.
Toriyama is a boss.
FighterZ's great too!
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9017 Posts
March 30 2018 04:28 GMT
#3985
On March 30 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote:
Too bad that we'll have to wait for a while to get more. That first episode was great. The teamwork finally and 17 being MVP and wishing everyone back over the trip around the world. I always did think that was quite silly to wish for lol, especially if you can have anything.

Anything materialistic could just be handled by Bulma, so there was no point in wishing for any of that stuff. 18 and Kurin got the 10mil zeni, 17 got the boat, and everyone else just went about their day. Vegeta is probably tripping with Whis to U6 and Gohan is probably with the supreme kai or some shit.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 30 2018 04:29 GMT
#3986
Seriously. Bulma is like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet and Bezos combined, with way cooler tech.
Freeeeeeedom
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 30 2018 04:39 GMT
#3987
On March 30 2018 13:28 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote:
Too bad that we'll have to wait for a while to get more. That first episode was great. The teamwork finally and 17 being MVP and wishing everyone back over the trip around the world. I always did think that was quite silly to wish for lol, especially if you can have anything.

Anything materialistic could just be handled by Bulma, so there was no point in wishing for any of that stuff. 18 and Kurin got the 10mil zeni, 17 got the boat, and everyone else just went about their day. Vegeta is probably tripping with Whis to U6 and Gohan is probably with the supreme kai or some shit.

oh ya, of course. Was just saying that his wish was silly considering it's something that can be easily gotten.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 30 2018 04:50 GMT
#3988
On March 30 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote:
Too bad that we'll have to wait for a while to get more. That first episode was great. The teamwork finally and 17 being MVP and wishing everyone back over the trip around the world. I always did think that was quite silly to wish for lol, especially if you can have anything.



While we'll have to wait awhile, it does sound like the TV show is coming back. For anyone who hasn't heard, Toei has created a dragon ball department and has a couple of departments. One focused on the television anime. So that seems to erase almost any doubts that Super or some other Dragon ball show isn't coming back within the next couple of years. Hopefully within the next year would be nice.

Source: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-03-27/toei-animation-to-establish-department-focused-on-dragon-ball/.129582
When I think of something else, something will go here
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 30 2018 05:42 GMT
#3989
Wondering if it's gonna just be Dragon Ball Super or if they'll make a new Dragon Ball Super Duper series. Mostly just branding of course, but I'm kind of wondering how they will handle it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 30 2018 15:00 GMT
#3990
On March 30 2018 13:28 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote:
Too bad that we'll have to wait for a while to get more. That first episode was great. The teamwork finally and 17 being MVP and wishing everyone back over the trip around the world. I always did think that was quite silly to wish for lol, especially if you can have anything.

Anything materialistic could just be handled by Bulma, so there was no point in wishing for any of that stuff. 18 and Kurin got the 10mil zeni, 17 got the boat, and everyone else just went about their day. Vegeta is probably tripping with Whis to U6 and Gohan is probably with the supreme kai or some shit.


There isn't even a point to wishing some of the smaller stuff since Whis just revived Freeza and made Bulma's baby come out faster. Just feed him and he might randomly grant a wish.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
March 30 2018 15:13 GMT
#3991
Why does Freeza care about the Freeza army? He could probably take out the army on his own, as could most of the Z fighters. Now, what would have been really cool is Freeza heading off to the dog-fox universe somehow to take over the position of Sindra by force.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
March 30 2018 15:55 GMT
#3992
On March 31 2018 00:00 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 13:28 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On March 30 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote:
Too bad that we'll have to wait for a while to get more. That first episode was great. The teamwork finally and 17 being MVP and wishing everyone back over the trip around the world. I always did think that was quite silly to wish for lol, especially if you can have anything.

Anything materialistic could just be handled by Bulma, so there was no point in wishing for any of that stuff. 18 and Kurin got the 10mil zeni, 17 got the boat, and everyone else just went about their day. Vegeta is probably tripping with Whis to U6 and Gohan is probably with the supreme kai or some shit.


There isn't even a point to wishing some of the smaller stuff since Whis just revived Freeza and made Bulma's baby come out faster. Just feed him and he might randomly grant a wish.

People forget after Super Shenron, Zeno, and the Grand Priest, Whis is the most powerful being we know of. Hard to say if he's the strongest of the angels, but I'd say he's at least stronger than 9 10 and 11's
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 30 2018 16:04 GMT
#3993
On March 31 2018 00:13 Dark_Chill wrote:
Why does Freeza care about the Freeza army? He could probably take out the army on his own, as could most of the Z fighters. Now, what would have been really cool is Freeza heading off to the dog-fox universe somehow to take over the position of Sindra by force.

If you have godly powers and you're ruling an empire, you might want to consider having grunts to take care of the day-to-day business like keeping the locals in line, and only making an appearance yourself in case something gets really out of hand. It's not like you can be everywhere at once and stop every shitty ass rebel everywhere all the time.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15726 Posts
March 30 2018 16:13 GMT
#3994
On March 30 2018 14:42 LegalLord wrote:
Wondering if it's gonna just be Dragon Ball Super or if they'll make a new Dragon Ball Super Duper series. Mostly just branding of course, but I'm kind of wondering how they will handle it.


I'm sticking to my original theory. Dragon Ball Super will have a follow up series with a relationship very similar to what DBZ had to DB.

This entire new realm that was established in DBS, god ki, Zenoh, multiverse, etc, is what will be explored. I think the 6 previously erased universes will have some sort of vendetta or angst regarding their erasure. Remember how people blamed Beerus for it? I could see U6/U7 teaming up in some kinda universe war. Would be fucking awesome.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 30 2018 16:22 GMT
#3995
What 6 universes? Are these the ones that were erased before this tournament started?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-30 16:31:18
March 30 2018 16:28 GMT
#3996
On March 31 2018 01:22 BigFan wrote:
What 6 universes? Are these the ones that were erased before this tournament started?


Yeah, the details are clearly intentionally vague, but all we know is that something inspired Zenoh to eliminate 6 universes a long time ago. There were "originally" 18. For all we know, they'll decide there are 50, some of which are ascended universes. This shit can go on forever. But what we know right now is that there were 18, 6 got erased prior to anything we've seen.

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Multiverse

The Universe Survival Saga takes place in the World of Void for the Tournament of Power between eight of the twelve universes. All of the 12 universes are ruled by Zeno. Formerly, there used to be 18 universes in total, but Zeno erased 6 of them when he was angry and Universes 9, 10, 2, 6, 4, 3, and 11 were erased during the Tournament of Power, but were brought back into existence thanks to Android 17's wish using the Super Dragon Balls.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 30 2018 16:32 GMT
#3997
On March 31 2018 01:28 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2018 01:22 BigFan wrote:
What 6 universes? Are these the ones that were erased before this tournament started?


Yeah, the details are clearly intentionally vague, but all we know is that something inspired Zenoh to eliminate 6 universes a long time ago. There were "originally" 18. For all we know, they'll decide there are 50, some of which are ascended universes. This shit can go on forever. But what we know right now is that there were 18, 6 got erased prior to anything we've seen.

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Multiverse

Show nested quote +
The Universe Survival Saga takes place in the World of Void for the Tournament of Power between eight of the twelve universes. All of the 12 universes are ruled by Zeno. Formerly, there used to be 18 universes in total, but Zeno erased 6 of them when he was angry and Universes 9, 10, 2, 6, 4, 3, and 11 were erased during the Tournament of Power, but were brought back into existence thanks to Android 17's wish using the Super Dragon Balls.

yes but was there a mention that they came back? I don't recall the anime touching on this point.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 30 2018 16:37 GMT
#3998
On March 31 2018 01:32 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2018 01:28 Mohdoo wrote:
On March 31 2018 01:22 BigFan wrote:
What 6 universes? Are these the ones that were erased before this tournament started?


Yeah, the details are clearly intentionally vague, but all we know is that something inspired Zenoh to eliminate 6 universes a long time ago. There were "originally" 18. For all we know, they'll decide there are 50, some of which are ascended universes. This shit can go on forever. But what we know right now is that there were 18, 6 got erased prior to anything we've seen.

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Multiverse

The Universe Survival Saga takes place in the World of Void for the Tournament of Power between eight of the twelve universes. All of the 12 universes are ruled by Zeno. Formerly, there used to be 18 universes in total, but Zeno erased 6 of them when he was angry and Universes 9, 10, 2, 6, 4, 3, and 11 were erased during the Tournament of Power, but were brought back into existence thanks to Android 17's wish using the Super Dragon Balls.

yes but was there a mention that they came back? I don't recall the anime touching on this point.

17 wished for the "universes that were erased to be restored". The phrasing is purposefully vague, they have the option to bring these universes back now.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15726 Posts
March 30 2018 16:40 GMT
#3999
On March 31 2018 01:32 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2018 01:28 Mohdoo wrote:
On March 31 2018 01:22 BigFan wrote:
What 6 universes? Are these the ones that were erased before this tournament started?


Yeah, the details are clearly intentionally vague, but all we know is that something inspired Zenoh to eliminate 6 universes a long time ago. There were "originally" 18. For all we know, they'll decide there are 50, some of which are ascended universes. This shit can go on forever. But what we know right now is that there were 18, 6 got erased prior to anything we've seen.

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Multiverse

The Universe Survival Saga takes place in the World of Void for the Tournament of Power between eight of the twelve universes. All of the 12 universes are ruled by Zeno. Formerly, there used to be 18 universes in total, but Zeno erased 6 of them when he was angry and Universes 9, 10, 2, 6, 4, 3, and 11 were erased during the Tournament of Power, but were brought back into existence thanks to Android 17's wish using the Super Dragon Balls.

yes but was there a mention that they came back? I don't recall the anime touching on this point.


Android 17 says "Restore all erased universes". Dragon Ball wishes have always been granted as stated. The other 6 were erased less recently, but nothing about 17's wording would omit them. I refuse to believe they would talk about previous 6 universes, then have Android 17 have a very broad wish, all for nothing. To me, it is virtually guaranteed we will see the other 6 universes at some point. Just a matter of when.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 30 2018 17:59 GMT
#4000
On March 31 2018 00:13 Dark_Chill wrote:
Why does Freeza care about the Freeza army? He could probably take out the army on his own, as could most of the Z fighters. Now, what would have been really cool is Freeza heading off to the dog-fox universe somehow to take over the position of Sindra by force.

The same reason the US has an army despite having nukes. Occupation is about standing in corners, not glassing places
Freeeeeeedom
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