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On April 03 2018 02:28 andrewlt wrote:
We've been told that the universes are pairs. With all the Saiyan talk here, are people assuming that the universes were originally in groups of 3, so there is another universe among 13-18 that have Saiyans? Or is the guess that there is another pair among universes 13-18 that have Saiyans?
I kinda feel like that whole pairing thing is gonna get canned. 6 and 7 are pairs in the same way I believe 1 and 12 are pairs. Someone correct me if I am wrong. So if 1 and 12 are pairs, 2 and 11, 3 and 10...where in the world do 13-18 come into things?
Additionally, Beerus and Champa are the only GoDs who seem to be related. How are they related? It seems like GoDs may start out as normal dudes based on Toppo. So how were Beerus and Champa brothers? How did someone born from one universe end up GoD of another universe? Apparently you can do that? But no other GoDs seem related.
So... ?_?
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On April 03 2018 02:40 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2018 02:28 andrewlt wrote:
We've been told that the universes are pairs. With all the Saiyan talk here, are people assuming that the universes were originally in groups of 3, so there is another universe among 13-18 that have Saiyans? Or is the guess that there is another pair among universes 13-18 that have Saiyans? I kinda feel like that whole pairing thing is gonna get canned. 6 and 7 are pairs in the same way I believe 1 and 12 are pairs. Someone correct me if I am wrong. So if 1 and 12 are pairs, 2 and 11, 3 and 10...where in the world do 13-18 come into things? Additionally, Beerus and Champa are the only GoDs who seem to be related. How are they related? It seems like GoDs may start out as normal dudes based on Toppo. So how were Beerus and Champa brothers? How did someone born from one universe end up GoD of another universe? Apparently you can do that? But no other GoDs seem related. So... ?_?
Maybe they're from one of the destroyed universes! Or maybe they're brothers in the sense that they're mirrors of each other, not like, literally born from the same parents.
Yeah idk how the pairing thing works with the destroyed universes either, but it feels like the universes originally being in groups of three is the quickest way to retcon clarify how the pairing rule makes sense when 33% of the universes were destroyed prior to the rule being mentioned.
Or I guess they could say that those universes were just off doing their own thing, no relation to the other twelve. It's Dragon Ball so you can't take anything off the table.
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On April 03 2018 23:24 RuiBarbO wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2018 02:40 Mohdoo wrote:On April 03 2018 02:28 andrewlt wrote:
We've been told that the universes are pairs. With all the Saiyan talk here, are people assuming that the universes were originally in groups of 3, so there is another universe among 13-18 that have Saiyans? Or is the guess that there is another pair among universes 13-18 that have Saiyans? I kinda feel like that whole pairing thing is gonna get canned. 6 and 7 are pairs in the same way I believe 1 and 12 are pairs. Someone correct me if I am wrong. So if 1 and 12 are pairs, 2 and 11, 3 and 10...where in the world do 13-18 come into things? Additionally, Beerus and Champa are the only GoDs who seem to be related. How are they related? It seems like GoDs may start out as normal dudes based on Toppo. So how were Beerus and Champa brothers? How did someone born from one universe end up GoD of another universe? Apparently you can do that? But no other GoDs seem related. So... ?_?
Maybe they're from one of the destroyed universes! Or maybe they're brothers in the sense that they're mirrors of each other, not like, literally born from the same parents. Yeah idk how the pairing thing works with the destroyed universes either, but it feels like the universes originally being in groups of three is the quickest way to retcon clarify how the pairing rule makes sense when 33% of the universes were destroyed prior to the rule being mentioned. Or I guess they could say that those universes were just off doing their own thing, no relation to the other twelve. It's Dragon Ball so you can't take anything off the table.
Oh baby. I like this. Part of me wonders if 13-18 were some sort of failed experiments. Artificially increasing mortal level through this or that means. Once things got out of hand, Zenoh through his hands in the ay-er and zapped em all away.
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If you guys thought DBS ending was gonna make me post less theories, you were WRONG:
Theory: Dr Gero inadvertently created god ki when he made androids 17 and 18. They were edited on a cellular level, meaning they remain organic. They can train, improve their power, but their ki can not be sensed. So they can increase their ki, but no one can sense it. This is why, despite never training once in their lives, a basic human was beyond the power of a super saiyan. They were like baby gods. Kinda like Hercules.
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On April 04 2018 00:51 Mohdoo wrote:
This is why, despite never training once in their lives, a basic human was beyond the power of a super saiyan. They were like baby gods. Kinda like Hercules.
I chuckled at this part :D
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What would cell become if he trained? He had EVERYTHING(sayan, freeza, namek, absortion). I guess he shouldn't have pissed the wrong boy.
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What if, and hear me out, Android 17 merged with an evil version of himself from the fiery pits of hell? I bet that would make for a truly captivating story arc!
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On April 04 2018 03:31 LegalLord wrote:
What if, and hear me out, Android 17 merged with an evil version of himself from the fiery pits of hell? I bet that would make for a truly captivating story arc!
haha funny. Could've swore I've seen this before 
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On April 04 2018 03:31 LegalLord wrote:
What if, and hear me out, Android 17 merged with an evil version of himself from the fiery pits of hell? I bet that would make for a truly captivating story arc!
Dragon Ball Super. Android 17. 131/17=7.7. There are 7 dragon balls and 7 super dragon balls.
Coincidence? You decide.
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On April 04 2018 04:49 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2018 03:31 LegalLord wrote:
What if, and hear me out, Android 17 merged with an evil version of himself from the fiery pits of hell? I bet that would make for a truly captivating story arc! Dragon Ball Super. Android 17. 131/17=7.7. There are 7 dragon balls and 7 super dragon balls. Coincidence? You decide.
Wait why does Super=131 again?
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On April 04 2018 05:28 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2018 04:49 Mohdoo wrote:On April 04 2018 03:31 LegalLord wrote:
What if, and hear me out, Android 17 merged with an evil version of himself from the fiery pits of hell? I bet that would make for a truly captivating story arc! Dragon Ball Super. Android 17. 131/17=7.7. There are 7 dragon balls and 7 super dragon balls. Coincidence? You decide. Wait why does Super=131 again?
131 episodes!! (so far)
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On April 04 2018 03:18 TMG26 wrote:
What would cell become if he trained? He had EVERYTHING(sayan, freeza, namek, absortion). I guess he shouldn't have pissed the wrong boy.
Just imagine. Super golden blue god Cell. Push him to his limits and he'll achieve ultra instinct white Cell. The perfect being is even more perfect.
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And then he decides to piss Allie.
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On April 03 2018 02:40 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2018 02:28 andrewlt wrote:
We've been told that the universes are pairs. With all the Saiyan talk here, are people assuming that the universes were originally in groups of 3, so there is another universe among 13-18 that have Saiyans? Or is the guess that there is another pair among universes 13-18 that have Saiyans? I kinda feel like that whole pairing thing is gonna get canned. 6 and 7 are pairs in the same way I believe 1 and 12 are pairs. Someone correct me if I am wrong. So if 1 and 12 are pairs, 2 and 11, 3 and 10...where in the world do 13-18 come into things? Additionally, Beerus and Champa are the only GoDs who seem to be related. How are they related? It seems like GoDs may start out as normal dudes based on Toppo. So how were Beerus and Champa brothers? How did someone born from one universe end up GoD of another universe? Apparently you can do that? But no other GoDs seem related. So... ?_?
I do recall hearing about the "pairs" of universes, with the Saiyans in both U6 and U7 and their GoDs a nod to that symmetry, yet in the other universe "pairs" we didn't see any symmetry or dichotomy unfortunately. It would have been interesting, for example, to see the antithesis of the Pride Troopers or something, in the same way that Saiyans were either a warrior race (U7) or more gentle and passive (U6). A super-slow Dyspo or a second Jiren who isn't a quiet, arrogant prick would have been pretty cool.
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overall enjoyed the series and the filler
cons:
redoing battle of gods and return of frieza with shittier animation. why????
ending of black goku. trunks does epic rage power up dick slice cleave of zamasu, only for it to be pointless
crappy animation and fight scenes
scrubs in TOP giving the saiyans a hard time
gohan being a jobber
vegeta being a jobber
final ep left a lot to be desired. final ep of dbz showed people hanging out and having a good time. would've been nice to see that kind of wrap up
fights in super weren't as brutal. rewatching dbz piccolo vs 17 wow! you could feel each punch
pros:
first time trunks rage power ups and stomps zamasu to epic music
trunks epic rage power up dick slice cleave of zamasu to epic music
freeza trolling in TOP
sometimes the animation was good and so were the fights
jiren and goku fights
17 MVP
genuinely enjoyed almost all filler episodes. yamcha baseball had me lolling hard
overall grade = B
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As far as filler goes, the ones that were very good include Yamcha baseball (I was impressed, I was expecting this to suck), one of the Krillin retraining ones, and the Saiyaman mini-arc. Potafu, Arale, and tourney prep left much to be desired. I guess Zen Exhibition Match is also filler by traditional definitions, and that one was mostly very good.
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As for the pairings. Aren't some of the pairs not participating?
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The non-participant four were two pairs, yes.
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On April 04 2018 11:05 LegalLord wrote:
The non-participant four were two pairs, yes.
Huh. So all pairs were participating? Or could it be they were renumbered after the 6 were destroyed, resulting on some pairs no longer being pairs?
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On April 04 2018 11:35 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2018 11:05 LegalLord wrote:
The non-participant four were two pairs, yes. Huh. So all pairs were participating? Or could it be they were renumbered after the 6 were destroyed, resulting on some pairs no longer being pairs?
Either way, we should have at least seen some other pairings of worlds fight against each other in the ToP. Enough universes fought to guarantee this, mathematically.
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