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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-10 18:11:19
April 10 2015 18:10 GMT
#421
oneofthem, what's your background by the way? I only ask cause I (sort of) know bookwyrm's and I have no idea what yours is. As in, did you do a degree in English/philosophy/something related, what are you doing right now, etc.

On another note I'm (finally) getting around to reading 100 Years of Solitude after putting it off for years orz. I'm only a little bit in but it reads better than Chronicle of a Death Foretold (which I thought was kinda meh).
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
April 10 2015 18:20 GMT
#422
Oh, read Memorial do convento because of this thread, it was good, thanks dmnum. It read a bit like Marquez, but I felt closer to the content, Gusmao is one hell of a guy, and Saramago has a great sense of humour which made the book a very pleasant reading.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-10 18:42:20
April 10 2015 18:21 GMT
#423
my undergrad was in economics with minor in philosophy. did equivalent of a ma in philosophy as part of a phd program, mebbe will continue for a phd later. primarily in philosophical logic and its intersection with ontology. can't talk about specific programs but pretty highly ranked.


On April 11 2015 02:56 bookwyrm wrote:
No YOUR statements are without content. Neener neener!


lol do you even know what content means.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
April 11 2015 05:13 GMT
#424
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Finally found a semi-decent bookshop in Sydney. I say semi-decent because the philosophy section stocked like half a dozen copies of Peter Singer.
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dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 14:00:33
April 11 2015 13:44 GMT
#425
On April 11 2015 03:20 corumjhaelen wrote:
Oh, read Memorial do convento because of this thread, it was good, thanks dmnum. It read a bit like Marquez, but I felt closer to the content, Gusmao is one hell of a guy, and Saramago has a great sense of humour which made the book a very pleasant reading.

I'm glad you liked it, and yes, Memorial reminds me of Love in The Time of Cholera.

-

Reading Faulkner's As I Lay Dying now. After Knausgaard I'm in the mood for something less straightforward but just as earnest, and Faulkner is the most sincere modernist I can think of. Also, his female characters are amazing, so I'm hoping to steal a thing or two for the novel I'm writing.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
April 11 2015 13:52 GMT
#426
I daresay Forster would count as the most genuine Modernist due to his abstention from playing with form, but As I Lay Dying is plenty good nonetheless!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 14:03:39
April 11 2015 14:00 GMT
#427
I am not acquainted with Forster, but when I say Faulkner is "sincere", I'm talking purely about content. For example, A Portrait of the Artist is not too dense - at least when compared to Ulysses -, but it seeps irony.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 17:55:36
April 11 2015 17:54 GMT
#428
I want to reread As I Lay Dying at some point, as well as The Sound and the Fury Absalom, Absalom! I just....didn't seem to like it when I was in high school, but that was high school and compulsory reading. I think Faulkner deserves a second chance when I have the time, especially after being pretty fascinated with his character from an interview I read. >.<
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 10:25:55
April 13 2015 09:42 GMT
#429
Finished Witches Abroad by Terry Pratchett. I feel like 1) Terry Pratchett is kind of a one-trick pony and you shouldn't read more than three or four books of him and 2) none of those should include the witches.


Also, just bought A Thousand Plateaus (I had a pdf on my kindle for ages but it was a chore to read that way), The Old Man and The Sea which I hope to finish in the next hour, another Melville and David Reynolds' One World Divisible: a Global History since 1945..



Also, If I wanted to get acquainted to Hegelbroski, should I start with Hegel himself or with an introduction?
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
April 13 2015 14:11 GMT
#430
Start with Kojève, you'll have a precise idea of what Hegel does not say :p Or start with the Critic of Pure Reason.
Also I'm reading Dissemination, I think it's funny and even interesting even if some paragraphs are just half gibberish and that... well Hors-textes is a preface about people who write prefaces about prefaces sucking. So... lol
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
April 15 2015 00:25 GMT
#431
I need a new book. Or perhaps suggestions and advice on how to be able to enjoy a wider range of books.

I just finished The Hobbit. First book I've read in 2 years, mostly because of huge time constraints. However, I now have a lot more time for reading and want to make it a big part of my life again. I'm finding that I get bored really quickly reading books, though. I've never been able to make it through the LotR books because I just get bored reading about Tom Bombadil and never get far. The Hobbit was a great pace for me.

So, I either need some suggestions for books to read, or a strategy/skills to develop to be able to appreciate slower-paced books.

Books I've enjoyed thoroughly: The Road, The Book Thief, Fahrenheit 451, Ender's Game, Ender's Shadow, The Giver, Animal Farm, Brave New World, 1984 (haha I'm just listing all dystopia novels now), Dan Brown novels, John Grisham novels. I also really enjoyed the Pendragon series other than the horrible ending.

Just a little lost. Any input is appreciated.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 01:02:45
April 15 2015 00:35 GMT
#432
There's no correct entry point into studying hegel, all beginnings are equally incorrect. But I dont know why you would bother - all of his statements are entirely without content.

On April 11 2015 03:10 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
oneofthem, what's your background by the way?


basically he's been brainwashed by two academic disciplines which have delusions of scientificity, hysterically police their disciplinary boundaries, and never cite outside of themselves, which makes them basically echo chambers in which jargon masquerades as technical precision and whose goal is not thought or reflection, but the attaining of a conspicuous but shallow erudition which enables one to go about life with a certain smug complacency based on the fact that one knows, for example, what "content" is (despite the fact that this knowledge is entirely contained within some incestuous, scholastic discourse). Plus, he's a banker - for whatever that's worth
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 01:31:47
April 15 2015 00:38 GMT
#433
Well, if you liked The Road I'd say go read Blood Meridian. Same author, much, much better book. Also, I think you'd like Philip K. Dick. I've only read Androids and Ubik by him but they were both immensely enjoyable.


On April 15 2015 09:35 bookwyrm wrote:
There's no correct entry point into studying hegel, all beginnings are equally incorrect. But I dont know why you would bother - all of his statements are entirely without content.



Wait, are you saying Hegel's or oneofthem's statements are without content?
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
April 15 2015 03:03 GMT
#434
hegel, obviously. he doesn't even know what content IS!
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 09:42:48
April 15 2015 03:13 GMT
#435
On April 15 2015 09:35 bookwyrm wrote:
There's no correct entry point into studying hegel, all beginnings are equally incorrect. But I dont know why you would bother - all of his statements are entirely without content.

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On April 11 2015 03:10 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
oneofthem, what's your background by the way?


basically he's been brainwashed by two academic disciplines which have delusions of scientificity, hysterically police their disciplinary boundaries, and never cite outside of themselves, which makes them basically echo chambers in which jargon masquerades as technical precision and whose goal is not thought or reflection, but the attaining of a conspicuous but shallow erudition which enables one to go about life with a certain smug complacency based on the fact that one knows, for example, what "content" is (despite the fact that this knowledge is entirely contained within some incestuous, scholastic discourse). Plus, he's a banker - for whatever that's worth

Today I learned oneofthem is a banker. I feel so betrayed.

Not sure what I'm doing here as I don't even read anything. Au revoir~

Edit: Nevermind, sources have informed me that he is not a banker. All is good.
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Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
April 15 2015 11:56 GMT
#436
Anyone know if Heideggers&Finks lectures on Heraclitus are worth their while? I have close to zero interest in heidegger, i get th feeling that he's a fraud, but im contemplating getting it once im back in deutschland
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123Gurke
Profile Joined January 2005
France154 Posts
April 15 2015 12:45 GMT
#437
On April 15 2015 09:38 dmnum wrote:
Well, if you liked The Road I'd say go read Blood Meridian. Same author, much, much better book. Also, I think you'd like Philip K. Dick. I've only read Androids and Ubik by him but they were both immensely enjoyable.

Rather than Ubik or Androids I would recommend Palmer Eldritch. I find it far more fun, also it was the book that made me fall in love with PKD.

I also always recommend Neuromancer to everyone.

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Roughly 50 pages in. I like it so far, but I am reading this very slowly (basically only in the train to another university once a week).
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
April 15 2015 13:46 GMT
#438
I read Snow and it sucked.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 15 2015 14:36 GMT
#439
i've never said you can't extract actual substance from hegel.

and bookwyrm i would suggest more studying and less posting since what you've said so far is extremely incorrect.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 16:37:50
April 15 2015 15:55 GMT
#440
On April 15 2015 22:46 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I read Snow and it sucked.


istanbul is great though

On April 15 2015 12:13 Souma wrote:
Edit: Nevermind, sources have informed me that he is not a banker. All is good.


it says cayman islands. he's a banker. Nobody lives in the cayman islands who's up to any good.

On April 15 2015 23:36 oneofthem wrote:
and bookwyrm i would suggest more studying and less posting since what you've said so far is extremely incorrect.


no YOU'RE incorrect!!

i feel like we've been here before Also, you're the guy with 15000 posts and no sense of humor :p

On April 15 2015 23:36 oneofthem wrote:
i've never said you can't extract actual substance from hegel.


But Hegel definitely has no idea whatever this inbred notion of "content" that you have is. So if he doesn't know what "content" is, how can he put it in his philosophy? So therefore his philosophy must be entirely nonsense gibberish.

but I'm talking to a guy who probably thinks that Robert Brandom is the best Hegel exegete so... there's no hope

On April 15 2015 21:45 123Gurke wrote:
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On April 15 2015 09:38 dmnum wrote:
Well, if you liked The Road I'd say go read Blood Meridian. Same author, much, much better book. Also, I think you'd like Philip K. Dick. I've only read Androids and Ubik by him but they were both immensely enjoyable.

Rather than Ubik or Androids I would recommend Palmer Eldritch. I find it far more fun, also it was the book that made me fall in love with PKD.


just read them all

edit: just because I can't resist, I'm reading some more of this Metzinger book. It's SO CUTE. He thinks that a philosophical anthropology needs to proceed according to the law of non-contradiction (p 212). How adorable!! For a guy who likes to vulgarize Hegel without citing him (p 216) he doesn't seem to have "gotten" it. And his conclusion is just a restatement of old poststructuralist dicta in baby terms: "The Ego evolved as an instrument in social cognition, and one of its greatest functional advantages was that it allowed us to read the minds of other animals or conspecifics—and then to deceive them. Or deceive ourselves." Awwww... baby's first Lacan

Seriously, this book is like what happens when an analytic philosopher shows up to the party 50 years late and tries to explain to everybody the correct theory about how to have a good time. The sixties called... it wants its radical insights back!!!

but sorry, sorry. This is a well-respected book. I'm going to buy it in cloth and put it next to my complete collection of Daniel Dennett.
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