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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
July 30 2014 01:24 GMT
#961
On July 30 2014 10:22 bookwyrm wrote:
my professors tell me I'm not doing 'literary-cultural criticism' correctly because my essays have too much philosophy in them and I don't maintain an appropriately pomo cynical distance to what I'm writing about (sorry, I mean I don't have a 'historicizing outlook'). Also i talk way too much about jesus.

have any of you ever read stuff by a literary critic that you LIKED and thought was worth reading? What, and what about? If you were to read an essay about literature, what would you hope to get out of it? One year of grad school has mostly just made me more confused about what the point of what we are doing was supposed to be in the first place. I'm quite sure my professors don't know either. Curious what y'all think about this issue.


Can you post one of your essays with a professor's comments? Or an example? I am interested in what you have to say about this.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
July 30 2014 01:35 GMT
#962
yes but I don't have internet at my new house yet and I just have my phone. I'll ask the question again next week and try to be more specific
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
July 30 2014 02:17 GMT
#963
wish me luck
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si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 04:21:53
July 30 2014 04:16 GMT
#964
Goddamn you are a masochist.

I am getting really hyped for this book. It comes out September iirc
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Since my commute to sushi school is 2-4 hours a day one way, I have been getting lots and lots of reading and research done.

And now that I think about it, I do not think I know many literary critics I really enjoyed, I just mostly read their works to learn a new skill.
The only one I can think of that I loved is an internet blogger who pretty much does the same thing Zizek does but not as left or jargon driven.
http://radicalcompounds.wordpress.com/
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 04:28:34
July 30 2014 04:22 GMT
#965
On July 30 2014 10:22 bookwyrm wrote:
my professors tell me I'm not doing 'literary-cultural criticism' correctly because my essays have too much philosophy in them and I don't maintain an appropriately pomo cynical distance to what I'm writing about (sorry, I mean I don't have a 'historicizing outlook'). Also i talk way too much about jesus.

have any of you ever read stuff by a literary critic that you LIKED and thought was worth reading? What, and what about? If you were to read an essay about literature, what would you hope to get out of it? One year of grad school has mostly just made me more confused about what the point of what we are doing was supposed to be in the first place. I'm quite sure my professors don't know either. Curious what y'all think about this issue.

Whenever people ask me about literary criticism I refer them to Nabokov's "Good Readers and Good Writers". It's short and makes good points.

Also, fuck your professors if they think like that.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
July 30 2014 08:44 GMT
#966
On July 30 2014 10:22 bookwyrm wrote:
my professors tell me I'm not doing 'literary-cultural criticism' correctly because my essays have too much philosophy in them and I don't maintain an appropriately pomo cynical distance to what I'm writing about (sorry, I mean I don't have a 'historicizing outlook'). Also i talk way too much about jesus.

have any of you ever read stuff by a literary critic that you LIKED and thought was worth reading? What, and what about? If you were to read an essay about literature, what would you hope to get out of it? One year of grad school has mostly just made me more confused about what the point of what we are doing was supposed to be in the first place. I'm quite sure my professors don't know either. Curious what y'all think about this issue.

Deleuze's Proust and signs. It tries to explain some of the metaphors, to tie some passage together, to explain Proust's view on homosexuality, why it shocked some other prominent homosexuals of the time and why it's more complicated than they thought. I don't know, showing what's interesting about the book, trying to explain what some of it might mean, the originality of what it says, maybe explaining a bit what could have made the author write something, its influence... Something that make you think about the book more I guess ?
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
July 30 2014 11:59 GMT
#967
On July 30 2014 01:31 corumjhaelen wrote:
Good luck with Dracula, I think you'll need it^^

So far it's amazing. I finished half of it yesterday. The evil is palpable.
dreaming of a sunny day
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 30 2014 12:04 GMT
#968
On July 30 2014 13:22 dmnum wrote:
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On July 30 2014 10:22 bookwyrm wrote:
my professors tell me I'm not doing 'literary-cultural criticism' correctly because my essays have too much philosophy in them and I don't maintain an appropriately pomo cynical distance to what I'm writing about (sorry, I mean I don't have a 'historicizing outlook'). Also i talk way too much about jesus.

have any of you ever read stuff by a literary critic that you LIKED and thought was worth reading? What, and what about? If you were to read an essay about literature, what would you hope to get out of it? One year of grad school has mostly just made me more confused about what the point of what we are doing was supposed to be in the first place. I'm quite sure my professors don't know either. Curious what y'all think about this issue.

Whenever people ask me about literary criticism I refer them to Nabokov's "Good Readers and Good Writers". It's short and makes good points.

Also, fuck your professors if they think like that.

yeah, i'd recommend Nabokov as well
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bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
July 30 2014 17:18 GMT
#969
sadly I don't think "write more like deleuze" is what they have in mind.

(you are allowed, even encouraged, to use "rhizomatic" (incorrectly) as a jargon-checking maneuver, but that is the total permitted engagement with deleuze)
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
Roswell
Profile Joined November 2013
United States250 Posts
July 31 2014 17:32 GMT
#970
Has anyone else read the fantasy series "Prince of Nothing" or The darkness that comes before?

Almost done with book 1 and I really enjoy the dark gritty fantasy stuff. I love the POV thoughts for each character, though it took some time.
"You are the bravest boy I have ever met"
VaultD
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland85 Posts
July 31 2014 18:05 GMT
#971
On August 01 2014 02:32 Roswell wrote:
Has anyone else read the fantasy series "Prince of Nothing" or The darkness that comes before?

Almost done with book 1 and I really enjoy the dark gritty fantasy stuff. I love the POV thoughts for each character, though it took some time.


Yeah read all the books in the series so far, and liked well enough. It drags a bit at times in my opinion, or at least it was far from the smoothest fantasy I've read. However, the characters and the story more than make up for it in my opinion even if I kinda dislike certain aspects of the books. Akka is one of my recent favorite characters. If you liked the first book then you will probably like the rest of the series as well, since it is mostly the in the same vein.
“Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.”
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-31 18:29:13
July 31 2014 18:24 GMT
#972
A little bit into The Waves and I feel like I should be taking notes to keep track of who's saying what zz this is too much work.
TranslatorBaa!
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18821 Posts
July 31 2014 18:28 GMT
#973
The Wave or The Waves? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess the second
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
July 31 2014 18:29 GMT
#974
I accidentally an S :S
TranslatorBaa!
lungic
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden123 Posts
August 01 2014 06:45 GMT
#975
On August 01 2014 03:05 VaultD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 02:32 Roswell wrote:
Has anyone else read the fantasy series "Prince of Nothing" or The darkness that comes before?

Almost done with book 1 and I really enjoy the dark gritty fantasy stuff. I love the POV thoughts for each character, though it took some time.


Yeah read all the books in the series so far, and liked well enough. It drags a bit at times in my opinion, or at least it was far from the smoothest fantasy I've read. However, the characters and the story more than make up for it in my opinion even if I kinda dislike certain aspects of the books. Akka is one of my recent favorite characters. If you liked the first book then you will probably like the rest of the series as well, since it is mostly the in the same vein.


Essentially this.

I love how dark and cynical the series is.
Catemonster
Profile Joined August 2014
United States4 Posts
August 01 2014 13:20 GMT
#976
The Magician's Land by Lev Grossman releases on the 5th. I've been waiting for this book for what feels like eons.
ain't no party like a donner party
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
August 01 2014 15:01 GMT
#977
Book Log
+ Show Spoiler +

And my first book for this year, Love and Math:
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This was a birthday gift from my parents and I’m halfway in. It’s partly a biography of a young mathematician overcoming discrimination and finding his passion in soviet Russia. The other part is a sort of an explanation as to why he enjoys math so much. I find the biographical element really interesting, but so far the math has not been terribly engaging. I understand that he’s trying to avoid the kind of nitty gritty detail that makes people hate math in school, but it often leaves me feeling like it hasn’t really been explained. We’ll see how the rest goes.

Happy New Year Folks!

Finished: Love and Math
This book could have been 2 books, one of which I would gladly read, and one of which I would gladly leave on the shelf. The far more interesting part of this book was the biography of the author, who beat the odds and anti-semitism of his home country (soviet russia) to become a mathemetician. His story of working on mathematical discoveries as a side job and sneaking into the best university to read papers and attend lectures, was compelling and interesting.

On the other had his presentation of mathematics was largely boring. I get what feels like a real sense of the passion that he has for math, but I find that his descriptions are too general for me to feel like they've been really explained. Part of my distaste may also stem from the fact that I don't find discussion of these sorts of concepts that interesting to begin with, so it would take a lot for the author to win me over.

I would recommend the book to someone who really enjoys abstract math, but otherwise just get a good biography instead.

Next I'm going to read The Stranger
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Since a lot of people on here seem to like it (I'm looking at you corumjhaelen). Should be good!


Finished: The Stranger
Excellent book. I had read a little bit of existentialism before this, so I wasn't unprepared for the content. That said the presentation was great. I really loved the descriptions of the protagonist just experiencing life in the moment. I don't think I need to give a detailed review of this book since half of the people here seem to have read it but, 5/5 would binge read again.


I ditched sixty stories because it didn't look very good in the library (sorry sam). Instead I picked up This Side of Paradise
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I've heard from some that it is actually better than gatsby. Should be good.


Finished: This Side of Paradise
Quite a good book. My major criticism is that the plot doesn't move very well, but otherwise the writing is excellent. The portrait of a lost young man hits close to home.

decided to pick up the screenplay, The Seventh Seal
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I've always wanted to see the movie, but never have. My uncle gave me the book. Should be good!


Finished: The Seventh Seal
Pretty short, but also pretty good. Really left me wanting to see the movie. I also enjoyed the mildly existential overtones. Not a whole lot to say about this other than that the imagery was amazing and the story itself was the good kind of heavy.

On the topic of existential overtones, I picked up
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except in its The Fall because I'm reading the English version (even I'm not that pompous). Should be good!

Finished: The Fall
Another excellent book. I'm genuinely sorry that I didn't start reading Camus' work earlier after having read this. I found the narrative style really cool (always being talked to about the past, makes it seem like an oral history). I also enjoyed the wholehearted endorsement of brothels in this book, all of my friends enjoyed hearing about the feeling of satisfaction that comes from lying drunk between 2 sleeping prostitutes. Great book.

I picked up Across the River and Into the Trees
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because I'm on a quest to read everything that hemingway ever wrote. Should be good!

Finished: Across the River and Into the Trees
This book was quite good. The standard stiff drinks, beautiful women, and maimed soldiers that I've come to expect from Hemingway. I think this book was interesting because of the extent to which his warriors were removed from their war. It reminded me a lot of some of the Nick Adams stories in that the colonel finds that he can never really escape his profession. A good read if you want a more hipstery selection of Hemingway's work.

Speaking of hipstery, I've picked for my next book The Torrents of Spring.
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Its Hemingway's first piece of published fiction, and that last of Hemingway's non-posthumous novels that I haven't read. Should be good.

Forgot to update, but a few days ago I Finished: The Torrents of Spring
This book was sort of weird. To me it seemed that Hemingway was poking fun at some of the tropes of "lost generation" writing. His characters make numerous references to Paris although they have been there only briefly and many have a massive admiration for continental culture that they don't actually understand. They also tend to heavily overvalue "authentic living" (one his characters prasies pump making factories for about a page and a half), and Hemingway includes numerous asides about his current position in the world of professional writing.

It was enjoyable, but a bit strange since it was written before a lot of the works that it seems to mock, and many of the tropes that it pokes fun at are employed in his later works.

Anyway, for something new and interesting, I picked up a 110 year old copy of The Count of Montecristo.
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Should be good.

Finished: The Count of Monte Cristo (Vol 1)
Holy shit, there are 2 volumes O_o

That said, this book as been really fun, I like the adventure feeling and the verbal smack-downs from the count. Its kind of interesting as well to see what the attitudes were toward things like medicine and race at the time. The second volume is supposed to be rife with vegeance, so I can't wait to pick that up, but first an interlude.

I picked up Moonraker
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Its one of the Bond books that I haven't yet read since it wasn't in the anthology that I had. Can't wait to get my spy novel fix!

Finished: Moonraker
The book was pretty good. I was super busy this last week so it took me a while to read, but I really did enjoy it. I thought it was kind of interesting in this book to see how little the Bond of the book is like Bond in the movies + Show Spoiler +
I've written about this before, but there is very little shooting and fighting. Mostly Bond plays cards, snoops around, and hits on any woman in the vicinity. I don't think he even fires his gun in this moive
. That said, it was quite nice.

Picked up Count of Monte Cristo: Part 2
Should be good.

Finished: The Count of Monte Cristo
Finally. Exams and projects really killed my free time these last few weeks. This book was pretty awesome. I really liked all of the focus on honor and the intricacies of parisian society. I also kind of enjoyed the way that Dantes was like a 19th century batman. Really fun read, I highly recommend it to anyone with a lot of time.

Picked up Snow Falling on Cedars
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My dad really liked this book and I need something to read at baseball games. Should be good!

Finished: Snow Falling on Cedars
This book was really good. It had all the classic elements of a book about war and the toll it takes on people, plus the detective/crime novel thing going on. It was a really fun read, and definitely a page turner.

Since I'm on books my dad liked, I picked up Pillars of the Earth
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which I think should be quite nice.

A brief note on the topic of lit, its true that this thread can get a bit over the top sometimes, but I think most people are reading these books because they genuinely like them, and not to fulfill some sort of quota. As for showing off, the point of the thread is to let other people know what you're reading, so there will always kind of be that element here.

edit: Always the formatting

Finished: Pillars of the Earth
I really enjoyed reading this book. Definitely a page turner with all kinds of political conflicts and such, but it also seemed very realistic. I particularly like the way the author handled the passage of time, and didn't feel the need to comment on every singly year of the characters lives (the book was long enough without it). I also particularly enjoy the idea of historical fiction in that the characters interact with real events at the time, but don't go so far as to influence/cause these things to happen.

Travel Bonus: Animal Farm
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Picked this up from a friend and read it on the plane. It was pretty mediocre in my opinion. The general message of "Totalitarianism is bad" was obvious and bluntly presented. Don't really get the hype about this book.

Picked up: Cien Anos de Soledad
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I loved it in english, now I'm attempting it in the original spanish. Wish me luck.

Still Reading Cien Anos de Soledad, but when it gets a bit heavy I have to have something else to turn to

Finished: The Face of Battle
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This book was a really interesting look at the way that military history is written, as well as an investigation of several battles. I really liked the way that the author tried to use the narratives of particular soldiers to see the battle from a particular point of view. It was interesting to set aside the rest of a large battle like Waterloo, and think for a minute about only those things that one officer or soldier could have seen. I also found the discussion of evolving trends of battle to be quite interesting.

Finished: When We Were Orphans
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This book was sort of an interesting twist on the classic detective novel. I found it interesting that the author chose to write in the style of journal entries, as it made the book seem as though it was much less of a contemporary work than it is (It was written in the 21st century, but it reads almost like Frankenstein). Despite the strange style, it was quite the page turner. I highly recommend it.

I picked up another book by Ishiguro, Nocturnes
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As well as Bram Stoker's Dracula
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To hold me over on my vacation. Should be good!


Finished: Dracula
I really loved this book. I thought that the author did an incredibly good job of giving me a sense of just how evil everything is, especially in the first part of the book when Jonathan Harker is in Castle Dracula. I also really liked that the plot moved rather quickly, since some of the other older books that I read sometimes get a bit drawn out. Even though I know how it ends, I was on the edge of my seating reading the last 40 pages as they chase the coffin to the castle. Really good book. Read it with the lights on.

While we were visiting some family friends for a day I began reading Love in the Time of Cholera
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I enjoyed One Hundred Years of Solitude, so I thought I'd pick up another book of his. Halfway in, it doesn't disappoint.

Even though I still have Nocturnes and Cien Anos de Soledad back home, I couldn't resist the temptation of our local library, and I picked up Lost Tales
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and a spy novel, Ludlum's Matarese Circle
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The next few days should be a lot of fun.
dreaming of a sunny day
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
August 02 2014 02:55 GMT
#978
really weird book but I like it

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si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18821 Posts
August 02 2014 03:03 GMT
#979
I've been meaning to check out Abe for some time, I'll have to get on that.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
August 02 2014 07:13 GMT
#980
On July 31 2014 02:18 bookwyrm wrote:
sadly I don't think "write more like deleuze" is what they have in mind.

(you are allowed, even encouraged, to use "rhizomatic" (incorrectly) as a jargon-checking maneuver, but that is the total permitted engagement with deleuze)

That being said, I'm not sure Deleuze is always a model, if you see what I mean :p
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
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