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On May 27 2014 03:46 123Gurke wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 00:57 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:On May 27 2014 00:24 zulu_nation8 wrote:
This is my reading list guys what do you think:
Homer - The Odyssey
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Vladimir Nabokov - Lolita
David Foster Wallace - Infinite Jest
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What's hilarious about this post is that I've read in some form or another almost everything on this list, but then again I've read most of it in English classes for high school. High school must be very different where you live...
I read the Odyssey in 9th grade of high school. I didn't read it for a high school class but Lolita is fairly popular when it's not getting banned. Infinite Jest is pretty out there for a high school English class, but the other two are quite common.
I need to read Lolita again at some point. I first read it years ago and didn't like it but the more think about it the more I think I probably missed the point.
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Ok i'll start a discussion. Do you think there's something deeply anti-intellectual about posting covers of highbrow European theory book covers like they're logos? It's like people posting clothes in fashion threads.
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On May 27 2014 04:03 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Ok i'll start a discussion. Do you think there's something deeply anti-intellectual about posting covers of highbrow European theory book covers like they're logos? It's like people posting clothes in fashion threads.
It's the What Are You Reading thread, not the book report thread. People just want to share what they're currently reading. If you'd like to discuss them more in depth, you're welcome to do that. Demanding that everyone post a detailed analysis to prove to you that they're really smart enough to have read these books is stupid, and not the point of the thread.
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I don't want people to post comments to show anyone they have read or understand, I want them to actually recommend something, or tell us about the book so this isn't a collage of pretty pictures. They mystify those books into fashion logos and does nothing to promote anything actually intellectual. I don't want an analysis, just some words. But these are just my preferences and what I would like to see. They are not rules and you guys can do what you want. But it does bother me.
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My thoughts on it:
On the surface, this seems to be a simple tale of learning to like things you never tried. But if you dig deeper, you find a much more sinister manifesto filled with mind control and evil world domination. Yes, I may be treading on thin ice but many have overlooked the subtext and true purpose of this microtome.
Be cautious if you plan on reading this book. Not many can remain the same once they have peered into a bucket of pure truth.
Recommended.
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On May 27 2014 02:28 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 01:37 EquilasH wrote:On May 26 2014 12:01 IgnE wrote:On May 25 2014 20:41 EquilasH wrote:
My last read was Thinking Fast and Slow, absolutely amazing book that describes how humans think and general decision-making. The author provides real-life applications and a lot of examples.
It's written by Daniel Kahnemann, a Nobel Prize winning Psychologist and Economist.
I also recently read Freakonomics, I found it really entertaining but I reckon most of you know it already.
Next I'm thinking of reading Nudge. Has anyone here read it? Would like to know people's thoughts on it before buying it.
I'd also love recommendations for any books similar to the ones I've listed. Gladwell is a fraud and corporate shuckster. But he didn't write any of the books I mentioned? Ooops my bad. Didn't recognize Nudge. Looked like a Gladwell title :S
I'm still interested in the reason why you think he's a fraud though - sounds interesting!
Edit: I've heard about at least two of his books and people were saying good stuff.
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On May 27 2014 04:18 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I don't want people to post comments to show anyone they have read or understand, I want them to actually recommend something, or tell us about the book so this isn't a collage of pretty pictures. They mystify those books into fashion logos and does nothing to promote anything actually intellectual. I don't want an analysis, just some words. But these are just my preferences and what I would like to see. They are not rules and you guys can do what you want. But it does bother me.
Oh ok, you're the one with a superiority complex, never would have seen that coming given your passive-agressive tone. But I'll go from pretty pictures to one line posts if that makes you feel better.
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On May 27 2014 04:22 dmnum wrote:My thoughts on it: On the surface, this seems to be a simple tale of learning to like things you never tried. But if you dig deeper, you find a much more sinister manifesto filled with mind control and evil world domination. Yes, I may be treading on thin ice but many have overlooked the subtext and true purpose of this microtome. Be cautious if you plan on reading this book. Not many can remain the same once they have peered into a bucket of pure truth. Recommended.
The fiction of normative values clarifies the position of the discourse of linguistic transparency throughout this text. We can also observe the culture of the natural recapitulates the historicization of the image.
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Inferior to Feyerabend but the only French Hercaclitean heir.
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Inspiration for the Foucaultian "limit-experience" but often misread as valueless subversion.
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Moron.
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There corumjhaelen I posted for you and went one step beyond.
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On May 27 2014 04:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:46 123Gurke wrote:On May 27 2014 00:57 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:On May 27 2014 00:24 zulu_nation8 wrote:
This is my reading list guys what do you think:
Homer - The Odyssey
[...]
Vladimir Nabokov - Lolita
David Foster Wallace - Infinite Jest
[...]
What's hilarious about this post is that I've read in some form or another almost everything on this list, but then again I've read most of it in English classes for high school. High school must be very different where you live... I read the Odyssey in 9th grade of high school. I didn't read it for a high school class but Lolita is fairly popular when it's not getting banned. Infinite Jest is pretty out there for a high school English class, but the other two are quite common. I need to read Lolita again at some point. I first read it years ago and didn't like it but the more think about it the more I think I probably missed the point.
Never read Infinite Jest or Lolita, but I've read everything else on the list (haven't read that much Frost, just enough to get the gist of his poetry).
I've read a few other "classics," including the introduction to Paradise Lost, Brave New World, Romeo and Juliet (ew), The Old Man and the Sea, The Crucible, The Scarlet Letter, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Frankenstein, Bridge Over the River Kwai, and a couple other Steinbeck books (Tortilla Flat, The Moon is Down, Of Mice and Men). I'm also currently reading Heart of Darkness and Lord of the Flies for school. My school puts a heavy emphasis on just reading a lot of short stories freshman year (Cask of Amontillado and stuff about that length; the stories get increasingly difficult as the year progresses and eventually the hardest thing you do is The Odyssey), whereas sophomore/junior years are a ton of poetry and some novels (American and British literature respectively). Stuff like Shakespeare, Hawthorne, Hemingway, Twain, Spenser, Milton, Eliot, Dylan, etc.
I get a huge emphasis on the classics at my school. That, grammar, and writing make up the majority of my school's English curriculum. They are a very traditional Catholic school though, so they tend to be a bit more... conservative in their choices for education. If it ain't broke, don't fix it in essence.
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On May 27 2014 05:49 zulu_nation8 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Inferior to Feyerabend but the only French Hercaclitean heir. Inspiration for the Foucaultian "limit-experience" but often misread as valueless subversion. Moron.
hahahaha
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Anyways tried Rebatet's Les deux étendards lately but this is just too powerful for me at the moment. It gives me vertigo and uneasiness a bit like when i read serious philosophy. Les décombres is just more fun and easier to read. Forget natural disaster movies made by Holywood lol. That's how a real disaster looks like.
Might be a bit too controversial for our dear friend Corumjhaelen tho :D
Instead i read one book by Thomas Savage recommended by my mother.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/128073.The_Power_of_the_Dog
Was a nice read. Still don't get why every people think that it is a gay novel =/
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On May 27 2014 05:49 zulu_nation8 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Inferior to Feyerabend but the only French Hercaclitean heir. Inspiration for the Foucaultian "limit-experience" but often misread as valueless subversion. Moron.
You know what, if it wasn't obvious that you're just being pedantic and sarcastic, I'd have actually considered asking you about those books, and we could have had a nice discussion. In fact, in my experience in this thread, that's usually what happens. Instead you're just being annoying.
Also, I went back and looked at the last several pages to see if it was really as bad as you made it out to be, and it's really not. It seems to come in spurts, as there's a few users here who are particularly interested in philosophy and theory. Some people aren't, and they post various other things. Stop with the hate brah, and just let people do what they do, yo.
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Just read this. There were some interesting ideas, but I can really see why a lot of people complain about him. There were definitely some moments where I just felt like Baudrillard was spouting bullshit because it sounded cool.
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Reading this right now. I always enjoy Stephenson, and though I don't expect this to be one of his best, it seems decent so far. Better than the Baroque cycle anyway, though to be fair that did have its moments!
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Also spending a lot of time studying Korean. (거의 잘 말할 수 있어! ㅋ) It's pretty difficult reading, even for native Koreans. All my Korean friends balk when I mention I'm reading it. It is interesting though, but the writer seems a bit too cynical for my taste.
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What did you find interesting about Simulacra and Simulation, and what did you find bullshit? How would you feel if I did this?
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ok I guess, lol'd at some parts but others are cool.
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On May 27 2014 18:59 Fighter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 05:49 zulu_nation8 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Inferior to Feyerabend but the only French Hercaclitean heir. Inspiration for the Foucaultian "limit-experience" but often misread as valueless subversion. Moron. You know what, if it wasn't obvious that you're just being pedantic and sarcastic, I'd have actually considered asking you about those books, and we could have had a nice discussion. In fact, in my experience in this thread, that's usually what happens. Instead you're just being annoying.
Psychoanalysis of fire is cool. It's an essay on trying to find everything deeply associated in our counscisness with fire, and how those can come into play in litterature. I know very little about litterary theory, but it seemed to me more readable than most, poetic, evocative. It also made me want to discover some poets I knew very little about (I kinda remember lengthy passages about Novalis).
It also has nothing to do with philosophy of science and Feyerabend, which was probably part of the "joke", we'll never know.
Thanks you zulu for making this thread way better. I seem to annoy you, my pleasure.
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On May 27 2014 18:59 Fighter wrote:Also, I went back and looked at the last several pages to see if it was really as bad as you made it out to be, and it's really not. It seems to come in spurts, as there's a few users here who are particularly interested in philosophy and theory. Some people aren't, and they post various other things. Stop with the hate brah, and just let people do what they do, yo. I think you missed the point of what he's complaining about.Just read this. There were some interesting ideas, but I can really see why a lot of people complain about him. There were definitely some moments where I just felt like Baudrillard was spouting bullshit because it sounded cool. http://www.continentcontinent.cc/index.php/continent/article/view/91
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Because he changed his angle of attack halfway through, and that he tries very hard not to make definite statements, hence the tentative irony and highly subversive satire.
Seems like a good solution would be that everyone handles zulu a 2 000 words reading report everytime he reads something zulu seems intellecutal, and that if he's not satisfied with your work three times in a row you're condemned to read only fantasy til the end of your days.
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On May 27 2014 23:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
http://www.continentcontinent.cc/index.php/continent/article/view/91
My brain wants to explode hahaha.
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On May 28 2014 00:12 Boblion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 23:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
http://www.continentcontinent.cc/index.php/continent/article/view/91
My brain wants to explode hahaha.
I just link that every time Baudrillard comes up now. It's glorious.
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