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sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
December 14 2013 18:42 GMT
#3201
ordering my books for "thing theory." oh joy.

hopefully i can justify writing a term paper on "galactic pot healer."
shikata ga nai
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
December 14 2013 20:53 GMT
#3202
Yeah I once almost took a class on that, and the summary described a philosophy in which the value ascribed to things gives them some sort of agential power over consciousness. Not my cup of tea lol.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
December 15 2013 02:04 GMT
#3203
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Everyone should read this.

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Also good by him.

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Great bathroom reader.

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Great brush up on Western Philosophy.

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Needed a brush up on basic politics.
"Well it’s obvious that these Terran gamers are just extremely gifted when it comes to RTS games" -Ret, in regards to the first months of SC2
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2673 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 12:33:05
December 15 2013 12:32 GMT
#3204
So I finally finished Die 13 1/2 Leben des Käpt'n Blaubär. It was a great book but I found the lack of overall plot made it a less compelling read. It was essentially a book about what Blaubär did but it was still fun.

I also read Die Verwandlung (The Metamorphosis) but I guess my German isn't good enough to get the finer points of the book. It came across as a hilariously bad B-Movie with Gregor crawling on the ceiling and getting apples thrown at him.

I also read Polyglot: How I Learn Languages by Kato Lomb which had some really interesting stories about language learning and her career as an interpreter. It's a love letter to languages basically.

Next up I have Die Alchemie der Unsterblichkeit by Kerstin Pfleger which I picked up in a book store in Cologne. Not sure if it's a kid's book or not yet.

I'm also reading Le Avventure di Pinocchio to try and improve my Italian. I've don't know any of the Pinocchio stories but from first experience, Pinocchio is a dick. If anyone else knows of some classic Italian books intended for kids or young adults, please let me know.

I bought a Stephen D. Krashen book on Language Acquisition but found out it was the third in a series of three, so I've ordered the first and will wait on those.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 22:38:02
December 15 2013 20:19 GMT
#3205
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shikata ga nai
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
December 16 2013 10:49 GMT
#3206
On December 15 2013 21:32 Flicky wrote:
I also read Die Verwandlung (The Metamorphosis) but I guess my German isn't good enough to get the finer points of the book. It came across as a hilariously bad B-Movie with Gregor crawling on the ceiling and getting apples thrown at him.


Haha, that's great - I would pay good money to see a b-movie version of The Metamorphosis. It gets adapted into ballet, theatre, and comics all the time. But nothing would suit the Jewish street theatre style better than a Troma Entertainment adaptation.

+ Show Spoiler +
I like the way he dies at the end and everyone is the better for it. That is some serious deadpan.


Have you read any other Kafka?
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
December 16 2013 11:40 GMT
#3207
On December 16 2013 19:49 Deleuze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 21:32 Flicky wrote:
I also read Die Verwandlung (The Metamorphosis) but I guess my German isn't good enough to get the finer points of the book. It came across as a hilariously bad B-Movie with Gregor crawling on the ceiling and getting apples thrown at him.


Haha, that's great - I would pay good money to see a b-movie version of The Metamorphosis. It gets adapted into ballet, theatre, and comics all the time. But nothing would suit the Jewish street theatre style better than a Troma Entertainment adaptation.

+ Show Spoiler +
I like the way he dies at the end and everyone is the better for it. That is some serious deadpan.


Have you read any other Kafka?


I really like Die Verwandlung. That being said, a highly relevant quote from 2666:
+ Show Spoiler +
"The mention of Trakl made Amalfitano think, as he went through the motions of teaching a class, about a drugstore near where he lived in Barcelona, a place he used to go when he needed medicine for Rosa. One of the employees was a young pharmacist, barely out of his teens, extremely thin and with big glasses, who would sit up at night reading a book when the pharmacy was open twenty-four hours. One night, while the kid was scanning the shelves, Amalfitano asked him what books he liked and what book he was reading, just to make conversation. Without turning, the pharmacist answered that he liked books like The Metamorphosis, Bartleby, A Simple Heart, A Christmas Carol. And then he said that he was reading Capote's Breakfast at Tiffany's. Leaving aside the fact that A Simple Heart and A Christmas Carol were stories, not books, there was something revelatory about the taste of this bookish young pharmacist, who in another life might have been Trakl or who in this life might still be writing poems as desperate as those of his distant Austrian counterpart, and who clearly and inarguably preferred minor works to major ones. He chose The Metamorphosis over The Trial, he chose Bartleby over Moby-Dick, he chose A Simple Heart over Bouvard and Pécuchet, and A Christmas Carol over A Tale of Two Cities or The Pickwick Papers. What a sad paradox, thought Amalfitano. Now even bookish pharmacists are afraid to take on the great, imperfect, torrential works, books that blaze paths into the unknown. They choose the perfect exercises of the great masters. Or what amounts to the same thing: they want to watch the great masters spar, but they have no interest in real combat, when the great masters struggle against that something, that something that terrifies us all, that something that cows us and spurs us on, amid blood and mortal wounds and stench."

Go read The Trial, Flicky!

---

about 200 pages into Perdido Street Station, and I can see why samisdat recommended it. Random (though mostly not unpleasant) attacks of philosphy or sociology in the middle of vivid steampunkesque world descriptions! neato.
i believe your actions dishonour Starcraft 2 LotV cybersport!
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
December 16 2013 13:19 GMT
#3208
On December 16 2013 20:40 Surth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 19:49 Deleuze wrote:
On December 15 2013 21:32 Flicky wrote:
I also read Die Verwandlung (The Metamorphosis) but I guess my German isn't good enough to get the finer points of the book. It came across as a hilariously bad B-Movie with Gregor crawling on the ceiling and getting apples thrown at him.


Haha, that's great - I would pay good money to see a b-movie version of The Metamorphosis. It gets adapted into ballet, theatre, and comics all the time. But nothing would suit the Jewish street theatre style better than a Troma Entertainment adaptation.

+ Show Spoiler +
I like the way he dies at the end and everyone is the better for it. That is some serious deadpan.


Have you read any other Kafka?


I really like Die Verwandlung. That being said, a highly relevant quote from 2666:
+ Show Spoiler +
"The mention of Trakl made Amalfitano think, as he went through the motions of teaching a class, about a drugstore near where he lived in Barcelona, a place he used to go when he needed medicine for Rosa. One of the employees was a young pharmacist, barely out of his teens, extremely thin and with big glasses, who would sit up at night reading a book when the pharmacy was open twenty-four hours. One night, while the kid was scanning the shelves, Amalfitano asked him what books he liked and what book he was reading, just to make conversation. Without turning, the pharmacist answered that he liked books like The Metamorphosis, Bartleby, A Simple Heart, A Christmas Carol. And then he said that he was reading Capote's Breakfast at Tiffany's. Leaving aside the fact that A Simple Heart and A Christmas Carol were stories, not books, there was something revelatory about the taste of this bookish young pharmacist, who in another life might have been Trakl or who in this life might still be writing poems as desperate as those of his distant Austrian counterpart, and who clearly and inarguably preferred minor works to major ones. He chose The Metamorphosis over The Trial, he chose Bartleby over Moby-Dick, he chose A Simple Heart over Bouvard and Pécuchet, and A Christmas Carol over A Tale of Two Cities or The Pickwick Papers. What a sad paradox, thought Amalfitano. Now even bookish pharmacists are afraid to take on the great, imperfect, torrential works, books that blaze paths into the unknown. They choose the perfect exercises of the great masters. Or what amounts to the same thing: they want to watch the great masters spar, but they have no interest in real combat, when the great masters struggle against that something, that something that terrifies us all, that something that cows us and spurs us on, amid blood and mortal wounds and stench."

Go read The Trial, Flicky!

---

about 200 pages into Perdido Street Station, and I can see why samisdat recommended it. Random (though mostly not unpleasant) attacks of philosphy or sociology in the middle of vivid steampunkesque world descriptions! neato.

Excellent, already got it for my kindle. Holidays can't come quick enough though -_-
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
December 16 2013 21:45 GMT
#3209
On December 16 2013 20:40 Surth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 19:49 Deleuze wrote:
On December 15 2013 21:32 Flicky wrote:
I also read Die Verwandlung (The Metamorphosis) but I guess my German isn't good enough to get the finer points of the book. It came across as a hilariously bad B-Movie with Gregor crawling on the ceiling and getting apples thrown at him.


Haha, that's great - I would pay good money to see a b-movie version of The Metamorphosis. It gets adapted into ballet, theatre, and comics all the time. But nothing would suit the Jewish street theatre style better than a Troma Entertainment adaptation.

+ Show Spoiler +
I like the way he dies at the end and everyone is the better for it. That is some serious deadpan.


Have you read any other Kafka?


I really like Die Verwandlung. That being said, a highly relevant quote from 2666:
+ Show Spoiler +
"The mention of Trakl made Amalfitano think, as he went through the motions of teaching a class, about a drugstore near where he lived in Barcelona, a place he used to go when he needed medicine for Rosa. One of the employees was a young pharmacist, barely out of his teens, extremely thin and with big glasses, who would sit up at night reading a book when the pharmacy was open twenty-four hours. One night, while the kid was scanning the shelves, Amalfitano asked him what books he liked and what book he was reading, just to make conversation. Without turning, the pharmacist answered that he liked books like The Metamorphosis, Bartleby, A Simple Heart, A Christmas Carol. And then he said that he was reading Capote's Breakfast at Tiffany's. Leaving aside the fact that A Simple Heart and A Christmas Carol were stories, not books, there was something revelatory about the taste of this bookish young pharmacist, who in another life might have been Trakl or who in this life might still be writing poems as desperate as those of his distant Austrian counterpart, and who clearly and inarguably preferred minor works to major ones. He chose The Metamorphosis over The Trial, he chose Bartleby over Moby-Dick, he chose A Simple Heart over Bouvard and Pécuchet, and A Christmas Carol over A Tale of Two Cities or The Pickwick Papers. What a sad paradox, thought Amalfitano. Now even bookish pharmacists are afraid to take on the great, imperfect, torrential works, books that blaze paths into the unknown. They choose the perfect exercises of the great masters. Or what amounts to the same thing: they want to watch the great masters spar, but they have no interest in real combat, when the great masters struggle against that something, that something that terrifies us all, that something that cows us and spurs us on, amid blood and mortal wounds and stench."

Go read The Trial, Flicky!

---

about 200 pages into Perdido Street Station, and I can see why samisdat recommended it. Random (though mostly not unpleasant) attacks of philosphy or sociology in the middle of vivid steampunkesque world descriptions! neato.


2666 has been on my list for a while, forgot about it - thanks for the reminder!

I've read every single Kafka work there is in English, and have worked with colleagues in a publishers on a new English translation in 2009. My wife used to work in a basement next to an old box full of some of his blue books. The Castle was his best, also Amerikkka was pretty mighty. I don't speak German though, but have been meaning too. Are you studying German? Where?
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
December 16 2013 22:01 GMT
#3210
The final book of the Hyperion cantos.
The heart's eternal vow
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 22:34:47
December 16 2013 22:24 GMT
#3211
Pretty good book. Although Hobsbawm is not the best historian, he gets better the further he goes back in time.
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And lol at Sowell.
"I love our intellectuals," said no intellectual ever.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
December 17 2013 23:52 GMT
#3212
went shopping today in berkeley. $350 poorer, many books richer. Such selection! It is almost like a lot of intellectuals live here. Highly recommend university press books and moe's!
shikata ga nai
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
December 17 2013 23:53 GMT
#3213
I need a few pictures of what you bought, for the spectacle You lucky bastard !
As for me, back to Hegel...
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 00:19:06
December 18 2013 00:18 GMT
#3214
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sorry i guess the image won't load but you can click on them for the link?
shikata ga nai
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 00:31:36
December 18 2013 00:26 GMT
#3215
On December 18 2013 09:18 sam!zdat wrote:
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sorry i guess the image won't load but you can click on them for the link?

Yep, thanks, that looks good ! So many frenchmen too
Also just read :
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On the Poverty of Student Life: A Consideration of Its Economic, Political, Sexual, Psychological and Notably Intellectual Aspects and of a Few Ways to Cure it.
That's a good pamphlet if I ever read one.
+ Show Spoiler [Excerpt from a judgement in French] +
Attendu que la mauvaise gestion des intérêts pécuniaires de l’A.F.G.E.S. reprochée aux défendeurs résulte d’une façon évidente du fait, par eux non contesté, qu’ils ont fait imprimer etdistribuer aux frais de l’A.F.G.E.S., 10 000 brochure
s qui ont coûté près de 5 000 F, et autres publications antérieurement, d’inspiration "Internationale situationniste"
(...)
Qu’il suffit en effet de lire ces publications dont les défendeurs sont les auteurs, pour constater que ces cinq étudiants à peine sortis de l’adolescence, sans aucune expérience, le cerveau encombré de théories philosophiques, sociales, politiques et économiques mal digérées, et ne sachant comment dissiper leur morne ennui quotidien, émettent la vaine, orgueilleuse et dérisoire prétention de porter des jugements définitifs sur leurs condisciples, leurs professeurs, Dieu, les religions, le clergé, les gouvernements et les systèmes politiques et sociaux du monde entier ; puis rejetant
toute morale et toute entrave légale, vont cyniquement jusqu’à prôner le vol, la destruction des études, la suppression du travail, la subversion totale et la révolution mondiale prolétarienne sans retour possible pour "jouir sans entrave"
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
December 18 2013 00:31 GMT
#3216
now that you mention it.. :D
shikata ga nai
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 07:37:05
December 18 2013 07:07 GMT
#3217
Looking for recommendations. Either in French or English.

I'm looking for very good books in the historical novel genre. But I'm looking for something that is truly historical in its context (way of life, political situation around) in very minute details. The story and character should also be plausible in the context. Characters and their adventure doesn't have to be real by themselves.
Oh yes should precise: in medieval era or before.

For examples.
I've read Ken Folett Pillars of the Earth (and its follow-up book) and I think it's not very good. Sure it somewhat uses an historically accurate environment for his story but sadly the book is painfully limited in scope, the historical details being mostly about the monks and the building of a cathedral. Biggest problem for me though is that in the end the story is a pretty cliché boring 20th century love story. Also the characters are either unrealistic, clichés or anachronistic (thinking/acting more like a 20th century woman/man than what probably was true at that time).
In a nutshell, the story just doesn't feel true and the historical context feels only as an excuse. This discordance made the end result disappointing.

On the other hand I really like the work of Pierre Naudin (read 2 books of his so far). He writes books about characters in the 100 years war. His depiction of relations, context and settings are very detailed and full of background explanation. A ton of vocabulary as is suited for that kind of book in my opinion. As a result it is a difficult read but if you like history it's definitely recommended from me (and if you're trying to read french, getting through that one would be a strong achievement haha). Even though the characters are fictional he still manages to involve his characters in the events of the war making this as much of a novel as a history lesson. That's my perfect match.
I mean when the author is able to put footnote in his fictional stories quoting chroniclers of the time like Jean Froissart, you know it's the real deal.

So... any idea ? (Already read Les Rois Maudits obviously)

Edit: On another topic, as of right now I'm finishing Green Mars. Pretty good, preferred to Red Mars.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
December 19 2013 01:36 GMT
#3218
Hey, i'm also looking for some book recommendations. I'd like to pick up a really engaging series again. It doesn't need to be a great masterpiece of art, or any specific genre,but preferably something of the "I won't leave my house until I've read the whole series!" category.

IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 19 2013 01:59 GMT
#3219
On December 19 2013 10:36 Nyxisto wrote:
Hey, i'm also looking for some book recommendations. I'd like to pick up a really engaging series again. It doesn't need to be a great masterpiece of art, or any specific genre,but preferably something of the "I won't leave my house until I've read the whole series!" category.



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Not a series but I recommend it.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
December 19 2013 19:03 GMT
#3220
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shikata ga nai
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