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Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 06:10:54
September 20 2013 06:09 GMT
#2561
I just listened to Nussbaum give a lecture about the topics discussed in this book and it seems like a really good read. Anything talking about deliberative democracy is automatically good in my book. Plus, it sounds like a much easier read than what Habermas has given me :D
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Sorry Sam, but I am still a strong believer in rationality and the power of discourse even with drones flying around
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
September 20 2013 06:12 GMT
#2562
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I've been on a mission to read every Jack Reacher book this year. I finally picked up the 18th book, the last one to read.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 06:15:24
September 20 2013 06:14 GMT
#2563
On September 20 2013 15:09 Shiragaku wrote:
Sorry Sam, but I am still a strong believer in rationality and the power of discourse even with drones flying around


beep... beeep.... beeep.... KABOOOOM!

sorry, what were you saying? :p
shikata ga nai
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 06:20:02
September 20 2013 06:18 GMT
#2564
On September 20 2013 15:14 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 15:09 Shiragaku wrote:
Sorry Sam, but I am still a strong believer in rationality and the power of discourse even with drones flying around


beep... beeep.... beeep.... KABOOOOM!

sorry, what were you saying? :p

I take it back, I guess I was wrong

Imma read this book again now
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Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.


ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?!??!?![image loading]
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
September 20 2013 06:19 GMT
#2565
Young Mao's essays are badass.
KTY
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 06:22:29
September 20 2013 06:22 GMT
#2566
On September 20 2013 15:19 Xxio wrote:
Young Mao's essays are badass.

Yeah, I agree. Even though I have left and condemned most of Maoism, I really liked his early essays, especially Combat Liberalism.
http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm

But I feel that most of his philosophy in the end is a bit superfluous and on level with Ayn Rand.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
September 20 2013 06:45 GMT
#2567
Got sams book today. Looks interesting
dreaming of a sunny day
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 07:08:42
September 20 2013 07:08 GMT
#2568
On September 20 2013 15:03 sam!zdat wrote:
it's about a campaign strategist who can tell the future, kinda. Well at first he can only use statistics and intuitions and stuff but then later he can see the future. I don't know how it ends yet.

robert silverberg is one of my absolute favorite writers and it's just awesome. All of his books are about religion (despite my advisor's protests, what does he know) which is why I like him.. So the themes in this one are about predestination vs flux (e.g. calvinism vs daoism) and things like that. This is not his best novel or anything but I like everything I've read by him so far (for some reason I did not read him in high school so it is all new to me, which is rad)

he's not really a 'stochastic man' it's just called that because that's the kind of thing SF novels are called

edit @above: yes have you?



No, but Amazon reviewers are raving about it. Saying it's better than Catcher in the Rye and unfairly discriminated against for being SF. I was wondering what your impression was.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 07:44:00
September 20 2013 07:42 GMT
#2569
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On August 26 2013 23:38 TOCHMY wrote:
Finished:

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I don't know what to say about this book... I guess I'm not really that satisfied by short stories. Some were good, some were weird and some were a waste of time. But regardless of how good they were, they didn't satisfy me.

Still trudging through:

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It's going really really slow for me with this one. I just can't seem to find motivation to keep reading it. Partly because it's hard for me to comprehend what's happening sometimes, and partly because stuff is happening all over the place, much of which isn't that interesting to be honest. I know this book's been praised alot in this thread. I guess I'm one of those less erudite people in this thread.

Just arrived:

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I started The Last Wish today and it looks really promising! Best part is that I have a clear understanding of how the various monsters in the book looks like, since I played the game. Always useful!




Finished:

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I have yet to read a book by Brandon Sanderson that I didn't like. While Elantris is the book I've enjoyed least by him, it was still great. His character development skills is on another level.

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I got recommended this book by an english teacher that comes to my work from time to time. His favourite author is Ian McEwan and he recommended me Amsterdam and Enduring Love.

Amsterdam was... okay I guess. The main character is dead from page 1 and I didn't feel any kind of connection to the other characters in the book. I don't know really. The plot was okayish but the execution could be better.

Currently reading:

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Book 2 about Geralt the witcher. I love these books!

Up next:

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Brandon Sanderson <3

Just ordered:

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Brandon Sanderson <3
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
September 20 2013 07:49 GMT
#2570
I'm not sure what it has to do with catcher in the rye but yeah that book is great
shikata ga nai
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 20 2013 08:11 GMT
#2571
On September 20 2013 16:49 sam!zdat wrote:
I'm not sure what it has to do with catcher in the rye but yeah that book is great


Something about alienation and loneliness?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
September 20 2013 08:19 GMT
#2572
I guess. Anyway yeah go read that book. And then go read more books by robert silverberg because robert silverberg is the fucking bomb
shikata ga nai
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 20 2013 08:42 GMT
#2573
On September 20 2013 17:19 sam!zdat wrote:
I guess. Anyway yeah go read that book. And then go read more books by robert silverberg because robert silverberg is the fucking bomb


What makes you say "Calvinist" in reference to fate and foreknowledge of the future rather than Oedipal? Calvin is a hack. Oedipus Rex is universal.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
September 20 2013 14:47 GMT
#2574
greek fate and calvinist predestination are completely different animals
shikata ga nai
xarchaosx
Profile Joined February 2012
United States89 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 16:02:07
September 20 2013 15:58 GMT
#2575
Currently in the middle of a few books...

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and to top it all off

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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
September 20 2013 17:24 GMT
#2576
That Moby-Dick cover is amazing
KTY
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 19:01:48
September 20 2013 18:40 GMT
#2577
On September 20 2013 23:47 sam!zdat wrote:
greek fate and calvinist predestination are completely different animals


It's not that they aren't, but it seems like the Stochastic Man might be more like Oedipus based on your sparse description. Man finds out future. Man doesn't like future. Man tries to avoid future. Man fulfills prophecy anyway (guessing)?

I assume Stochastic Man doesn't actually have the protagonist predict some behavior he doesn't want to do, and then he does it anyway despite not wanting to do it in a very direct sense. Or maybe he realizes he has to do it. Or maybe he decides he wants to right before he does it.

What additional details make it Calvinist for you? What are the thematic differences between Calvinist predestination and Greek fate in your eyes?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
September 20 2013 19:08 GMT
#2578
Good luck writing that second thesis sam
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
September 20 2013 20:10 GMT
#2579
no no it's like what you say it isn't. It's calvinist I promise.
shikata ga nai
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 20 2013 21:28 GMT
#2580
So I just read Frankenstein and...

+ Show Spoiler +

The Creature isn't the Monster, Dr. Frankenstein aka Humanity is the monster. All the tragedy that bestows Frankenstein occur because of his evil. The creature wanted love yet blinded by his arrogance and self proclaimed "humanity" he refuses and throws the creature into a vengeance. In the end Man ends it all without remorse only self pity yet the creature the supposed monster, mourns.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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