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We made a thread specifically for Episode 8 now, let us head over to that one
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/entertainment/521373-star-wars-episode-viii-the-last-jedi
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
December 03 2015 15:15 GMT
#1881
On December 03 2015 23:59 Rookie6 wrote:

This is something I am interested in knowing, what you guys think is the best duel in Star Wars?

Personally, Luke vs Vader in the Return of the Jedi is arguably my favourite Star Wars moment.


For me is Luke vs Vader in The Empire Strikes Back, I liked the Anakin vs Obi Wan, but the ending of that fight is just mehh, not the result but you are right about the "I have the higher ground", It should have been better if they finished that fight like the fights between Luke and Vader, on the same ground, and Obi Wan winning because of his excellent defensive skills and Anakins "bad" anxiety as the cause to make mistakes fighting.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 03 2015 15:15 GMT
#1882
Empire, Luke vs Vader: hands down. It is the most technical with two character of varying skill, lots of tricks and use of the environment. It remains compelling until the end. Vader is terrifying, but you still believe Luke could hurt him. Its an amazingly well done fight that is part action scene, part horror.

Every lightsaber fight in 1-3 is dance fighting without tension. It ends when the script requires the plot to move forward, after we have seen enough dance fighting. The only exception is the fight between Obi and Boba-fet. That one is pretty good.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17444 Posts
December 03 2015 15:21 GMT
#1883
Did you mean Jango Fett?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 03 2015 15:25 GMT
#1884
On December 04 2015 00:21 Manit0u wrote:
Did you mean Jango Fett?

Yes. Dude who looks just like the other popular character and has an equal amount of personality and development.

I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
December 03 2015 15:29 GMT
#1885
On December 03 2015 23:59 Rookie6 wrote:
Personally, Luke vs Vader in the Return of the Jedi is arguably my favourite Star Wars moment.

Yes definitelly.
sorry for dem one liners
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
December 03 2015 19:44 GMT
#1886
Agreed on best fight in prequels as Jango vs Obi Wan. Can you imagine if the Clone Wars were versus an army of Mandalorians (Jango's people, as in original lore) instead of the crap we got?
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
December 04 2015 13:06 GMT
#1887
Ok so now that I am slowly better understanding people's critique on the prequels I decided to watch them again with that in mind. I have to agree that although the overall story is solid imo many parts aren't "expressed" well. Like the whole Anakin/Padme love story could have been a lot less cheesy. I also agree with the guy from the videos just posted earlier that it would've been much better if Darth Maul had survived Episode I and they merged Dooku and him into one overall more interesting character.

And seriously that security on that droid main planet sucks donkey balls. First a jedi spy sneaks in unnoticed, then like 100 jedi's catch them by surprise, and if that's not enough an entire fucking army of over a million clones takes them by surprise! Mace Windu could've ended the fucking war when he was sneaking up on Jango Fett and Dooku if he had brought a bazooka and shot em in the back...

Oh well.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 04 2015 14:06 GMT
#1888
Adam Savage(Myth Busters) worked on Episode 1 and said the crew refereed to Darth Maul as "el diablo" because he was basically the "Devil Sith" just to make sure people knew he was evil. Man, those movies. The worst part about them is you can see a good movie somewhere in there. Like if it was just a buddy cop story between Obi and Anakin.

But go watch some interviews with Portman doing PR for Revenge of the Sith. Those are pretty fun. You can tell she was pretty done.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4552 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-04 14:26:02
December 04 2015 14:25 GMT
#1889
I just can't get past how horrendously shit the OT movies look nowadays.

I mean, just look at this yeti scene from V: www.youtube.com
Nothing Jar Jar says or does is worse than that scene. I actually cringed in my seat when I saw that last time.

So yeah, I'm that 1 in 100 dude that prefers the prequels, bring on the hate

As for best duels, prequels all the way too. Obi-wan vs Grievous, Yoda vs Palpatine, Obi-wan vs Anakin, Darth Maul fight, ...
I'll take all the dancing/spinning/jumping over the incredibly boring fights in the OTs.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-04 14:45:15
December 04 2015 14:43 GMT
#1890
It's not really that the fights themselves were more interesting in the OT, but the fact that they told a story. The PT fights were better filmed but never had all that much meaningful dialogue or backstory to make them matter.

On December 04 2015 22:06 B.I.G. wrote:
I also agree with the guy from the videos just posted earlier that it would've been much better if Darth Maul had survived Episode I and they merged Dooku and him into one overall more interesting character.

Dooku was a good character. I just feel like Darth Maul should have survived. Might also have given Obi-Wan a stronger vengeance motive which could make for an interesting side-plot.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10811 Posts
December 04 2015 15:03 GMT
#1891
On December 04 2015 23:25 Laurens wrote:
I just can't get past how horrendously shit the OT movies look nowadays.

I mean, just look at this yeti scene from V: www.youtube.com
Nothing Jar Jar says or does is worse than that scene. I actually cringed in my seat when I saw that last time.


Uhm, what exactly is horrible about that? I mean yeah, it could be done better but i don't see how its horrible by any means?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 04 2015 15:09 GMT
#1892
On December 05 2015 00:03 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 23:25 Laurens wrote:
I just can't get past how horrendously shit the OT movies look nowadays.

I mean, just look at this yeti scene from V: www.youtube.com
Nothing Jar Jar says or does is worse than that scene. I actually cringed in my seat when I saw that last time.


Uhm, what exactly is horrible about that? I mean yeah, it could be done better but i don't see how its horrible by any means?

It was also filmed in 1980.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17444 Posts
December 04 2015 15:29 GMT
#1893
On December 04 2015 23:43 LegalLord wrote:
It's not really that the fights themselves were more interesting in the OT, but the fact that they told a story. The PT fights were better filmed but never had all that much meaningful dialogue or backstory to make them matter.

Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 22:06 B.I.G. wrote:
I also agree with the guy from the videos just posted earlier that it would've been much better if Darth Maul had survived Episode I and they merged Dooku and him into one overall more interesting character.

Dooku was a good character. I just feel like Darth Maul should have survived. Might also have given Obi-Wan a stronger vengeance motive which could make for an interesting side-plot.


Well, he did survive and he did have robot legs. At least that's how it was in all of the (official at the time) spin-offs in SWCW, comics etc.

You can even buy a toy of Maul after the encounter, when he succumbed to madness and his brother found him:

[image loading]

After that he got more regular robot legs.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
December 04 2015 15:54 GMT
#1894
Here, I'm talking about strictly movie plots. The spinoffs/extras are definitively in a lower tier of SW relevance.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17444 Posts
December 04 2015 17:39 GMT
#1895
On December 05 2015 00:54 LegalLord wrote:
Here, I'm talking about strictly movie plots. The spinoffs/extras are definitively in a lower tier of SW relevance.


Well, I think that the Clone Wars animated series (both of them) told a much better story and had much better characters than the prequels.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
December 04 2015 18:07 GMT
#1896
On December 05 2015 00:09 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 00:03 Velr wrote:
On December 04 2015 23:25 Laurens wrote:
I just can't get past how horrendously shit the OT movies look nowadays.

I mean, just look at this yeti scene from V: www.youtube.com
Nothing Jar Jar says or does is worse than that scene. I actually cringed in my seat when I saw that last time.


Uhm, what exactly is horrible about that? I mean yeah, it could be done better but i don't see how its horrible by any means?

It was also filmed in 1980.

Then refilmed on some dudes phone, and then put on youtube which doesn't help; there is no way, however that the 4-5 minutes luke spends with the Wampa, are worse than Jar Jar.

If you can't get past some dated SFX, and that ruins movies for you, that is missing out on so much great Science Fiction.
SirKibbleX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States479 Posts
December 04 2015 18:35 GMT
#1897
On December 05 2015 03:07 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 00:09 Plansix wrote:
On December 05 2015 00:03 Velr wrote:
On December 04 2015 23:25 Laurens wrote:
I just can't get past how horrendously shit the OT movies look nowadays.

I mean, just look at this yeti scene from V: www.youtube.com
Nothing Jar Jar says or does is worse than that scene. I actually cringed in my seat when I saw that last time.


Uhm, what exactly is horrible about that? I mean yeah, it could be done better but i don't see how its horrible by any means?

It was also filmed in 1980.

Then refilmed on some dudes phone, and then put on youtube which doesn't help; there is no way, however that the 4-5 minutes luke spends with the Wampa, are worse than Jar Jar.

If you can't get past some dated SFX, and that ruins movies for you, that is missing out on so much great Science Fiction.


Don't forget it was re-edited and made much less scary by showing the giant wampa monster in the "special edition" (which is awful compared to the original). In the original much less is shown, leaving much more to the viewer's imagination and creating better atmosphere.
Praemonitus, Praemunitus.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
December 04 2015 18:41 GMT
#1898
On December 05 2015 03:35 SirKibbleX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 03:07 ThomasjServo wrote:
On December 05 2015 00:09 Plansix wrote:
On December 05 2015 00:03 Velr wrote:
On December 04 2015 23:25 Laurens wrote:
I just can't get past how horrendously shit the OT movies look nowadays.

I mean, just look at this yeti scene from V: www.youtube.com
Nothing Jar Jar says or does is worse than that scene. I actually cringed in my seat when I saw that last time.


Uhm, what exactly is horrible about that? I mean yeah, it could be done better but i don't see how its horrible by any means?

It was also filmed in 1980.

Then refilmed on some dudes phone, and then put on youtube which doesn't help; there is no way, however that the 4-5 minutes luke spends with the Wampa, are worse than Jar Jar.

If you can't get past some dated SFX, and that ruins movies for you, that is missing out on so much great Science Fiction.


Don't forget it was re-edited and made much less scary by showing the giant wampa monster in the "special edition" (which is awful compared to the original). In the original much less is shown, leaving much more to the viewer's imagination and creating better atmosphere.

True, but I don't even rate that as a re-edit compared to others.
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
December 05 2015 11:34 GMT
#1899
On December 04 2015 23:25 Laurens wrote:
I just can't get past how horrendously shit the OT movies look nowadays.

I mean, just look at this yeti scene from V: www.youtube.com
Nothing Jar Jar says or does is worse than that scene. I actually cringed in my seat when I saw that last time.

So yeah, I'm that 1 in 100 dude that prefers the prequels, bring on the hate

As for best duels, prequels all the way too. Obi-wan vs Grievous, Yoda vs Palpatine, Obi-wan vs Anakin, Darth Maul fight, ...
I'll take all the dancing/spinning/jumping over the incredibly boring fights in the OTs.

The problem is that we had a guy like you doing the prequels.
sorry for dem one liners
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
December 09 2015 05:48 GMT
#1900
The biggest shame with the prequels is they managed to make me unexcited for episode 7...

Haven't followed it at all. I'll probably go see it 1-2 weeks after release, after christmas. Unless people say it's really poor. What's the average feeling ? Excited or cautious ?
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