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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
That rap was hysterical lol. I've managed to get a buddy interested and after seeing the first episode of the anime he's definitely wanting more. Should I drag him through the whole anime? Key episodes and then the two new movies? Just the two new movies? What do? | ||
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LeaD
Canada464 Posts
On September 25 2012 07:14 N3rV[Green] wrote: I've never seen either of those two last things, and god damn am I glad I have now xD That rap was hysterical lol. I've managed to get a buddy interested and after seeing the first episode of the anime he's definitely wanting more. Should I drag him through the whole anime? Key episodes and then the two new movies? Just the two new movies? What do? Tell him to stop watching at episode 16 or just give him the latest two new movies that actually make some sense so far. No point in going through the last third of the series, understanding nothing and then reading forum posts that still try to create explanations over a decade later. Even Hideaki Anno says a lot of the stuff he put in there makes no sense/wasn't supposed too. That's my take, the first 16 episodes of the series were amazing and extremely well done, great character development/story etc (even if shinji is one of the most annoying protagonists ever). Then the last third just massively drops the ball and I'll never understand peoples enjoyment in watching a depressed writer just dump all his thoughts on screen. | ||
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Irratonalys
Germany902 Posts
That's my take, the first 16 episodes of the series were amazing and extremely well done, great character development/story etc (even if shinji is one of the most annoying protagonists ever). Then the last third just massively drops the ball and I'll never understand peoples enjoyment in watching a depressed writer just dump all his thoughts on screen. yea , thats your oppinion , but i found the last ~8 episodes of the series really amazing , everything after the attck of the 12th angel basically. the last two episodes in particular have such a great tone to them, its something unique that your not gonna find anywhere else. And to write it all off as just Annos depression in anime form suggests to me that you have just formed your oppinion based on reading forum posts made by other misinformed 13 year olds and have never watched the series at all. The final point that Anno makes in the mental examination of Shinji at the end of episode 26 is beauty itself , and im not ashamed to say i cried , i cried during the round of congratulations. | ||
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Crazyeyes
Canada1342 Posts
On September 25 2012 07:14 N3rV[Green] wrote: I've never seen either of those two last things, and god damn am I glad I have now xD That rap was hysterical lol. I've managed to get a buddy interested and after seeing the first episode of the anime he's definitely wanting more. Should I drag him through the whole anime? Key episodes and then the two new movies? Just the two new movies? What do? Here's my thoughts on it: Have him watch the entire series, then EoE. With you or without you, it's up to you... but don't go explaining everything to him all the time. Let him watch it. He's supposed to be confused as fuck. Shit just doesn't make sense... or at least not without some deep analysis. I'd say to just leave it for a day or two after he's done EoE. Let him think about wtf just happened. Either have him read up online or send him links to explanations or just explain shit yourself. When I finished, I spent like 2 days trying to understand whatever the fuck happened. The things that helped me the most were those fucking 2deep4u images on 4chan. Go to /a/, and find/make a 'what the fuck did I just watch?' eva thread and I'm sure they'll be dumped. After going through that shit I somehow learned to like the show (after finishing EoE I was angry with that retarded shit I just went through). THEN watch Rebuild. Just going straight into rebuild without understanding the original, in my opinion, is the wrong way to go about it. 2.22 was awesome because youre expecting it to continue being same old depressing shit, and then rebuild 2.22 fucking happens and its awesome. | ||
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LeaD
Canada464 Posts
On September 25 2012 07:26 Irratonalys wrote: yea , thats your oppinion , but i found the last ~8 episodes of the series really amazing , everything after the attck of the 12th angel basically. the last two episodes in particular have such a great tone to them, its something unique that your not gonna find anywhere else. And to write it all off as just Annos depression in anime form suggests to me that you have just formed your oppinion based on reading forum posts made by other misinformed 13 year olds and have never watched the series at all. The final point that Anno makes in the mental examination of Shinji at the end of episode 26 is beauty itself , and im not ashamed to say i cried , i cried during the round of congratulations. Yeah, all I did was read forum posts by misinformed 13 year olds. Sounds like you`re just obsessed with the show and in actuality the end of the series was redone from what was originally supposed to happen: + Show Spoiler + A sudden shift in tone occurred in the series around episode 16, partially due to scheduling restraints (drastically reducing the number of frames that could be drawn for each episode)[7] and the sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway on March 20, 1995 (with Anno removing elements of the plot he thought would be too similar to the real-life attack).[8] While Anno had promised early on that "every episode [would give]...something for the fans to drool over," he began either removing fan service or juxtaposing it with scenes of emotional trauma.[9] The problematic schedule and Gainax's reputation for delivering episode prints at the last minute also resulted in more experimental approaches, with several episodes reusing shots, using uncommonly long still frames, flashing frames of often rhetorical introspective (Japanese) text and the final two episodes changed from their original concept into a psychological analysis of the main characters. Basically he put the last third of the series together last minute and that ending wasn't even supposed to be what he originally wanted, but of course. masterpiece! "Something unique" is a bunch of drivel that every other person has another explanation for and is overly melodramatic (as expected from a depressed writer who admitted he wrote the last parts of the series while being influenced by his depression). The ending of the series was so awe-inspiring that Anno tried to replace the final parts of the series with a movie. Even Anno doesn't understand some of the stuff he wrote, he's notorious for changing his mind on the meaning of things from interview to interview. The only thing I cried over at the end of the series was at how awful it ended when it started so amazingly well. | ||
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Fyrewolf
United States1533 Posts
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On September 25 2012 09:24 LeaD wrote: Basically he put the last third of the series together last minute and that ending wasn't even supposed to be what he originally wanted, but of course. masterpiece! "Something unique" is a bunch of drivel that every other person has another explanation for and is overly melodramatic (as expected from a depressed writer who admitted he wrote the last parts of the series while being influenced by his depression). The ending of the series was so awe-inspiring that Anno tried to replace the final parts of the series with a movie. Even Anno doesn't understand some of the stuff he wrote, he's notorious for changing his mind on the meaning of things from interview to interview. The only thing I cried over at the end of the series was at how awful it ended when it started so amazingly well. It sure is messy, but I wouldn't say he made it all up. I feel that they were so rushed that they just decided to put everything on the show, even though they sometimes didn't know how to do it. Many things remained half-said, very few things were completely clear, but is was a blessing for those who like to reflect a lot on what they watch. There are two directions towards which a fiction can go : towards a realistic diegesis, or towards stylization and simplification. If you make the choice of realism (in narrative terms), you're bound to be left with something complex, something chaotic, but at the same time very rich. If you make the choice of stylization, you can play on symbolism and lead the viewer/reader as you will (tales usually work this way). I wouldn't say that either part of the series is bad, but either are surely different. The beginning is simple, a mech story like any generic mech shonen, and the ending is complex, like... well, I can't think of many examples right now. What makes Evangelion unique is that you have both in the same show, and these two tendencies meet halfway through. The movie isn't simply Anno's decision, it was greatly due to the pressure of angry fans and producers, as Evangelion was still supposed to be entertainment (the ending is overly intellectual for any prime-time youth tv show). In short, some may say that the ending wasn't exactly what they wanted, but at the same time this is the case in every movie and every show : the outcome always escapes the creator's control to some extent. Those who aren't used to interpretations usually find themselves lost when the author doesn't clearly lead you somewhere, but the goal of the author is sometimes to provide rich content that you will reflect upon. | ||
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
Stuff like Shinji smirking exactly like his father at one point, which I think is pretty huge. But ya, he Fucking loved it xD | ||
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nthrLL
Australia45 Posts
EDIT: How to make video shop up in thread?  | ||
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Kevinthetard
Canada3 Posts
On September 13 2012 08:17 Xiphos wrote: I don't get it. Its about a guy who QQ about piloting 'man's ultimate fighting machine' along with 1 overly horny redhead and a droid that is willing to perform any task. Do you see what's wrong with the plot? there is comics all over the net about a version of the world where he thinks exactly like you and blows everything up like a man, but of course the reason why this show is so dam awesome is simply because it is so fucked in the head in every aspect. it is a show to troll a greater half of the similar shows made before it. also, thats not a droid, that's his mom. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On October 25 2012 20:24 nthrLL wrote: Bumping this with glorious hype. 23 days until Japanese release! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I-AL_RxFQqk EDIT: How to make video shop up in thread? take out the embedded part of the url: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-AL_RxFQqk | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On December 13 2012 15:40 FinestHour wrote: cannot find a dub or sub of 3.0 anywhere, very sad days you'll have to wait a couple of months until dvd/bd release ... | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14079 Posts
NGE. <3 | ||
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nthrLL
Australia45 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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fishbowl
United States1575 Posts
On December 13 2012 15:43 a176 wrote: you'll have to wait a couple of months until dvd/bd release ... But I can't wait for it!! (never knew we had an NGE thread) | ||
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nthrLL
Australia45 Posts
On December 13 2012 15:52 GolemMadness wrote: Totally, what with all the DVD releases and subtitles that are out there. Lots of accurate plot explanations on the web, but I guess not everyone wants to be spoiled | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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shindigs
United States4795 Posts
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