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On June 10 2012 03:42 yrba1 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +The next 3 episodes will involve Amon successfully taking over Republic City while The New Team Avatar evacuates outside to prepare during the next season where Amon sorts out a plan for nonbenders to invade places throughout the entire Avatar World
+ Show Spoiler +They already said the whole Amon thing is going to be resolved within this season.
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On June 10 2012 05:07 Lowell wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 03:42 yrba1 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +The next 3 episodes will involve Amon successfully taking over Republic City while The New Team Avatar evacuates outside to prepare during the next season where Amon sorts out a plan for nonbenders to invade places throughout the entire Avatar World + Show Spoiler +They already said the whole Amon thing is going to be resolved within this season.
+ Show Spoiler +...what? then...what will tie season 1 to season 2?...I'll believe that when i see it.
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That was a cool episode, same breakneck pace but every "flowed" nicely. Cool twist
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On June 10 2012 05:10 Cyanocyst wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 05:07 Lowell wrote:On June 10 2012 03:42 yrba1 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +The next 3 episodes will involve Amon successfully taking over Republic City while The New Team Avatar evacuates outside to prepare during the next season where Amon sorts out a plan for nonbenders to invade places throughout the entire Avatar World + Show Spoiler +They already said the whole Amon thing is going to be resolved within this season. + Show Spoiler +...what? then...what will tie season 1 to season 2?...I'll believe that when i see it.
+ Show Spoiler +Maybe Amon is killed, but the Equalists still take over the city?... I really can't fathom how season 2 goes without the Equalist movement.
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Where are people watching the newest episode at? Already gone through nick.com and got nothing.
EDIT: nm, found it on page 86
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On June 10 2012 01:49 Cyanocyst wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 01:40 Zergneedsfood wrote: Tarrlok stopped being an impressive villain the minute that he was just another grab power and take over the city type villains.
In fact he stopped being impressive the minute he became a villain.
Good riddance. I disagree, + Show Spoiler +or at least i think he stopped being an impressive villain later rather than that.
After the last episode, i really thought we were going to have 2 villains. Amon, representing the revolution. Tarlock, representing the government going too far. Then Korra the Avatar would restore balance between the revolutionists and the over reaching government.
While that may be true, in a since still. Tarlock's run was too short to consider him to be on par with Amon.
+ Show Spoiler +I'm sort of with you. Between the plot and the constant teenage thick-headedness and focus on relationships I'm watching the show for the fact that it's in the avatar universe. I really really dislike it though, to be honest.
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Edit: in the next episode previews: will we be left with a cliffhanger where korra has to 're-find' her bending? or will she go avatar mode on his ass?
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...what? then...what will tie season 1 to season 2?...I'll believe that when i see it.
Well, do you think all the relationships will be solved in the next episodes if those are full of battles and...plot ?
+ Show Spoiler +On a more serious tone, I doubt we won't hear of Tarrlock and Yakon again. For one, the whole flashback story would be too lame if it were just hype. Second, I cannot conceive there is no link between Amon and events past. He cannot have drawn his abilities out of nowhere and you would except those events to have more or less involved the TLA characters. And no competent writer would suddenly decide to introduce a mysterious and outrageously strong bender, only to have him appear on flashbacks and have his son be a villain for one episode. A while ago, we expected the two villains to oppose as the series would go on, both rising as major threats to the heroes. If Tarrlok goes down, all the menace introduced through the flashbacks must transfer to Amon. Thirdly, the matter of Yakon's abilities cannot remain unexplained. It isn't natural that someone should be able to bloodbend thirty people at once, one of them being the strongest Earthbender around and the other, someone supposed to be stronger than absolutely everyone else. Bloodbending cannot be that strong than simply being skillful at it makes one invincible.
One thing that struck me previously was that very pact-with-the-devil reek around the two villains. Both have very unnatural powers, although maybe in Tarrlok's case it can be explained by bloodbending actually not requiring the full moon. It cannot in Yakon's case though. This is strange because we haven't really heard of anything in the Avatar world that would enable one to acquire new and mysterious powers beyond what usual bending can be thought to achieve. We shall wait and see for that, but if there is a connection between Yakon and Amon, it would already make more sense because there may only be one "pact", but of course it does not nearly explain how the weird powers of one and the other differ so (bending/ antibending). Amon being a bloodbender I don't reckon, not only would it be too predictable after what we've seen but it wouldn't account for his bending-removing abilities (which we can safely accept as real now) ; I guess he could have studied human anatomy very thoroughly and learnt which arteries to make explode to disable the imagine-it-as-you-like part of the body that controls bending, but that doesn't make for a very exciting plot point. Lastly, as it is clear Amon is not simple charismatic leader who happened to have a Marx-like epiphany when "his family was killed" but a being fueled with evil strength, we're left to guess his real motives (he seems to clever to only covet power anyway). Him being a bloodbender who would have learnt from Yakon previously yields no motives at all besides greed, although if he was just greedy, removing any other bender so as to control everyone at will would be an admirable plan.
And, as already pointed out, there's a third question : how did they find Korra ? I wouldn't be surprised if Amon explained that the abuction was completely imbalanced...sorry, completely part of his plan (a plan of which the Avatar is supposed to be a part, which implies it aspires to more than superseding the government).
Side notes : - Sorry. Tarrlok being surprised at Amon's immunity almost proves they're not brothers, otherwise Tarrlok would instantly have thought his opponent was a bloodbender, and those do no grow like mushrooms. Unless he was ignorant that he had a brother. - If Korra had decent airbending she could have floated in the cage and avoided the electric shock altogether. Time to cease wooing and start training. - Now that I think of it, Amon leaving the responsability of handling the resourceful and dangerous Korra to a bunch of stupid and incompetent henchmen just to transport a consciousless man that has no fighting ability whatsoever into a truck twenty meters afar and close the door seems unlike his cunning. I wouldn't be surprised if he later claims he did that on purpose as well. - Since Amon is very smart and has a thoroughly designed laid-out plan to fullfil his goals, I don't expect him to have completely forgotten about the Avatar State and devised no counter to it.
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On June 10 2012 03:31 DJSub wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 02:54 Tabbris wrote: People think Asami is amon.....come on........ After this episode, assuming Asami was with Tenzin and the others the whole time then that's impossible...
of course they are the same person if you remember amon said that he wouldnt take away korra's bending and then didnt even capture her or anything but during the episode asami became very jealous of korra and also in that episode amon wanted to capture korra when he didnt want to before how do you explain that huh
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On June 10 2012 09:08 Hulavuta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 03:31 DJSub wrote:On June 10 2012 02:54 Tabbris wrote: People think Asami is amon.....come on........ After this episode, assuming Asami was with Tenzin and the others the whole time then that's impossible... of course they are the same person if you remember amon said that he wouldnt take away korra's bending and then didnt even capture her or anything but during the episode asami became very jealous of korra and also in that episode amon wanted to capture korra when he didnt want to before how do you explain that huh
Because to come out of the gates with his Equalist movement by removing the AVATAR's bending would turn Korra into a martyr and potentially doom the Equalist movement?
The Equalist movement is at a phase where removing the Avatar's bending is less harmful to the movement as a whole.
That is how you explain why Amon's actions and Asami's emotions are not due to them being the same person.
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On June 10 2012 06:32 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 01:49 Cyanocyst wrote:On June 10 2012 01:40 Zergneedsfood wrote: Tarrlok stopped being an impressive villain the minute that he was just another grab power and take over the city type villains.
In fact he stopped being impressive the minute he became a villain.
Good riddance. I disagree, + Show Spoiler +or at least i think he stopped being an impressive villain later rather than that.
After the last episode, i really thought we were going to have 2 villains. Amon, representing the revolution. Tarlock, representing the government going too far. Then Korra the Avatar would restore balance between the revolutionists and the over reaching government.
While that may be true, in a since still. Tarlock's run was too short to consider him to be on par with Amon. + Show Spoiler +I'm sort of with you. Between the plot and the constant teenage thick-headedness and focus on relationships I'm watching the show for the fact that it's in the avatar universe. I really really dislike it though, to be honest.
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Edit: in the next episode previews: will we be left with a cliffhanger where korra has to 're-find' her bending? or will she go avatar mode on his ass?
+ Show Spoiler +Well i didn't say i disliked it. All i said was it took a turn that i didn't expect. It seems that Tarlock will be pretty much no threat at all with out his bending. So i can't really see him being a significant character, and with his reputation shattered he won't be able to re-establish him self on the council.
I mean its possible that i could have liked my idea for the story better, but i won't know that until i see the entire story. Including season two.
While i do have thoughts about whats coming, i try to detach my self from preconceived notions of how the story should flow. So i'm not angry or disappointed, that things didn't go in the way i though they might. I'm just riding along with the story.
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cant believe people are seriously discussing Asami being Amon. I just made that up to showcase how silly this overthinking is
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On June 10 2012 09:24 Skilledblob wrote: cant believe people are seriously discussing Asami being Amon. I just made that up to showcase how silly this overthinking is
Pfft, I already know that Amon is a cyborg.
EDIT: OH MY GOD, ASAMI IS A CYBORG!
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On June 10 2012 09:25 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 09:24 Skilledblob wrote: cant believe people are seriously discussing Asami being Amon. I just made that up to showcase how silly this overthinking is Pfft, I already know that Amon is a cyborg. EDIT: OH MY GOD, ASAMI IS A CYBORG! That means Pabu is a girl!
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+ Show Spoiler + Aang's removing of Yakon's bending looked a lot like what Amon does (as opposed to the first showing of the skill in the original series). He so is a bender. Wonder where he's hiding his turtle.
Lol @ the preview btw. "They'll fight for what could be the last time!" There's your season 2 for you.
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On June 10 2012 09:13 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 09:08 Hulavuta wrote:On June 10 2012 03:31 DJSub wrote:On June 10 2012 02:54 Tabbris wrote: People think Asami is amon.....come on........ After this episode, assuming Asami was with Tenzin and the others the whole time then that's impossible... of course they are the same person if you remember amon said that he wouldnt take away korra's bending and then didnt even capture her or anything but during the episode asami became very jealous of korra and also in that episode amon wanted to capture korra when he didnt want to before how do you explain that huh Because to come out of the gates with his Equalist movement by removing the AVATAR's bending would turn Korra into a martyr and potentially doom the Equalist movement? The Equalist movement is at a phase where removing the Avatar's bending is less harmful to the movement as a whole. That is how you explain why Amon's actions and Asami's emotions are not due to them being the same person.
Ugg, I tried my hardest but even with no punctuation (I actually put an apostrophe in korra's) or capitalization it's not obvious enough T_T
Anyways, I did not think they are actually the same person. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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+ Show Spoiler +On June 10 2012 09:38 Hulavuta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 09:13 Zambrah wrote:On June 10 2012 09:08 Hulavuta wrote:On June 10 2012 03:31 DJSub wrote:On June 10 2012 02:54 Tabbris wrote: People think Asami is amon.....come on........ After this episode, assuming Asami was with Tenzin and the others the whole time then that's impossible... of course they are the same person if you remember amon said that he wouldnt take away korra's bending and then didnt even capture her or anything but during the episode asami became very jealous of korra and also in that episode amon wanted to capture korra when he didnt want to before how do you explain that huh Because to come out of the gates with his Equalist movement by removing the AVATAR's bending would turn Korra into a martyr and potentially doom the Equalist movement? The Equalist movement is at a phase where removing the Avatar's bending is less harmful to the movement as a whole. That is how you explain why Amon's actions and Asami's emotions are not due to them being the same person. Ugg, I tried my hardest but even with no punctuation (I actually put an apostrophe in korra's) or capitalization it's not obvious enough T_T Anyways, I did not think they are actually the same person. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Oh, yeah, sarcasm is a little difficult to portray online. :-p I like to speak it out loud and make sure it sounds as bluntly sarcastic as possible. X-D
On June 10 2012 09:31 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 09:25 Zambrah wrote:On June 10 2012 09:24 Skilledblob wrote: cant believe people are seriously discussing Asami being Amon. I just made that up to showcase how silly this overthinking is Pfft, I already know that Amon is a cyborg. EDIT: OH MY GOD, ASAMI IS A CYBORG! That means Pabu is a girl!
So the prophecy is fulfilled...
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On June 10 2012 09:34 schimmetje wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Aang's removing of Yakon's bending looked a lot like what Amon does (as opposed to the first showing of the skill in the original series). He so is a bender. Wonder where he's hiding his turtle.
Lol @ the preview btw. "They'll fight for what could be the last time!" There's your season 2 for you.
Nope, they consistently look different. Both times Aang did it, he did it face to face with his thumbs on the forehead and chest/heart. Amon is always behind his target, with one thumb on the forehead and his other hand holding their neck. There's something very obviously different about the method. Also of note is that both times Aang debent his target, they didn't pass out and look feebly weak afterwards, whereas nearly every target Amon debends like Tarlok looks almost unconscious after they're debent.
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On June 10 2012 09:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 09:34 schimmetje wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Aang's removing of Yakon's bending looked a lot like what Amon does (as opposed to the first showing of the skill in the original series). He so is a bender. Wonder where he's hiding his turtle.
Lol @ the preview btw. "They'll fight for what could be the last time!" There's your season 2 for you.
Nope, they consistently look different. Both times Aang did it, he did it face to face with his thumbs on the forehead and chest/heart. Amon is always behind his target, with one thumb on the forehead and his other hand holding their neck. There's something very obviously different about the method. Also of note is that both times Aang debent his target, they didn't pass out and look feebly weak afterwards, whereas nearly every target Amon debends like Tarlok looks almost unconscious after they're debent.
I was more referring to the light show vs Ozai. I appreciate your attention to form I guess, but that seems a little weak to make it a wholly different thing. We'll find out I guess. I still think there's a turtle. There's always a turtle.
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On June 10 2012 09:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 09:34 schimmetje wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Aang's removing of Yakon's bending looked a lot like what Amon does (as opposed to the first showing of the skill in the original series). He so is a bender. Wonder where he's hiding his turtle.
Lol @ the preview btw. "They'll fight for what could be the last time!" There's your season 2 for you.
Nope, they consistently look different. Both times Aang did it, he did it face to face with his thumbs on the forehead and chest/heart. Amon is always behind his target, with one thumb on the forehead and his other hand holding their neck. There's something very obviously different about the method. Also of note is that both times Aang debent his target, they didn't pass out and look feebly weak afterwards, whereas nearly every target Amon debends like Tarlok looks almost unconscious after they're debent.
so the second chi point he's hitting is different, and it might even be possible that what he's doing is reversable, unlike aangs method.
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