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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
May 13 2012 05:30 GMT
#1061
On May 13 2012 14:10 Olinim wrote:
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On May 13 2012 14:07 Scribble wrote:
Is that Steve Blum doing Amon's voice? Reminds me a lot of Shishio from Kenshin, who is also voiced by Blum.

Also, they're doing a hell of a job demonstrating why Amon and the equalists are credible threats without making him feel too overpowered to the point where Korra would need some kind of magical power-up to rival him. When they first showed his clip at the end of episode 1 (or was it 2) I was a little bit skeptical about how I would like him, but he and his followers are turning out to be pretty great.

The show has been somewhere between alright and enjoyable up until this episode, but now it finally feels like it's hitting its stride.

Yes, Steve Blum voices Amon.


And Lance Henriksen is the voice of the second in command :D
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
May 13 2012 05:43 GMT
#1062
On May 13 2012 14:26 Crazyeyes wrote:
Zuko** Iroh**
You have to realize that those characters all had a 'PoV,' whereas we only see this guy when he's making public appearances... which are all heavily planned.

Whats this 'swamp thing' ?


I agree with you about the pov, but the point I'm making is that the decision by the writers to make amon purposely fake and the exact opposite of transparent is hurting the character in these early episodes

Btw Swamp thing is an old comic book character thats been revamped for the new dc 52. This revamp of swamp thing has been considered probably one of if not the best of all the reboots. The thing I am referring to in the comics is how- + Show Spoiler +
The writer doesnt actually allow the main character to transform into swamp thing until issue 8(issues only come out once every three weeks so the comic went about 6 months without its flagship character.

Swamp thing for reference is the champion/avatar of nature spawned from a human being who is born with a mega green thumb
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Satire
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada295 Posts
May 13 2012 05:52 GMT
#1063
Here's my take on what will happen with the story:

I think Amon is that city council guy - you know the one who set up Toph's daughter. I wouldn't doubt it if that old guy we're seeing that Aang and crew are going after is his father. As I believe Aang and Zuko set up Republic City together, I would not doubt if that old guy was ordered executed by Zuko after his capture. Thus creating "Amon".

A reach in the dark, but I keep getting a gut feeling that council guy is rotten to the core. He also appears to be pulling strings to set Korra up basically on a collision path with Amon, which is actually adventitious for him. Amon is a "stacked deck" kind of guy, and the city council guy gives me the same vibe.

PS - this episode was absolutely amazing. Definitely best of the series.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
May 13 2012 05:56 GMT
#1064
On May 13 2012 14:52 Satire wrote:
Here's my take on what will happen with the story:

I think Amon is that city council guy - you know the one who set up Toph's daughter. I wouldn't doubt it if that old guy we're seeing that Aang and crew are going after is his father. As I believe Aang and Zuko set up Republic City together, I would not doubt if that old guy was ordered executed by Zuko after his capture. Thus creating "Amon".

A reach in the dark, but I keep getting a gut feeling that council guy is rotten to the core. He also appears to be pulling strings to set Korra up basically on a collision path with Amon, which is actually adventitious for him. Amon is a "stacked deck" kind of guy, and the city council guy gives me the same vibe.

PS - this episode was absolutely amazing. Definitely best of the series.


Seems way to obvious, is he in cahoots? Maybe. Is he amon? Almost definitely not.
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Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
May 13 2012 06:02 GMT
#1065
OH yeah, it's like Snape. You just KNOW he's evil (we'll ignore how snape actually wasn't). When Lin suggested she'd be there, you can see his facial expression change... devious bastard.

Him actually BEING amon? I don't think so. I think is name is Tarrlok. Well, I know that's his name. I just dunno the spelling.

So Swamp Thing is a comic? Gotcha.
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Mango Chicken
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
55 Posts
May 13 2012 06:08 GMT
#1066
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Pfft, damn Bei Fong's security sucked.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
May 13 2012 06:10 GMT
#1067
On May 13 2012 15:02 Crazyeyes wrote:
OH yeah, it's like Snape. You just KNOW he's evil (we'll ignore how snape actually wasn't). When Lin suggested she'd be there, you can see his facial expression change... devious bastard.

Him actually BEING amon? I don't think so. I think is name is Tarrlok. Well, I know that's his name. I just dunno the spelling.

So Swamp Thing is a comic? Gotcha.


A great comic thats definitely worth picking up : )
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Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 06:35:48
May 13 2012 06:34 GMT
#1068
On May 13 2012 15:08 Mango Chicken wrote:
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Pfft, damn Bei Fong's security sucked.

They were caught off guard with technology that no one knew existed. Can you blame them?

Although Tenzin definitely should have been in that fight. And Lin didn't need to go down to save Korra... she'd be fine. She could have saved herself with waterbending. Or helped by Tenzin. Or something.

About the gloves: "Now anyone can possess the power of a chi blocker" or something. So an electric shock prevents bending? Or just stuns you which, obviously, prevents everything?
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
May 13 2012 06:45 GMT
#1069
On May 13 2012 15:34 Crazyeyes wrote:
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On May 13 2012 15:08 Mango Chicken wrote:
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Pfft, damn Bei Fong's security sucked.

They were caught off guard with technology that no one knew existed. Can you blame them?

Although Tenzin definitely should have been in that fight. And Lin didn't need to go down to save Korra... she'd be fine. She could have saved herself with waterbending. Or helped by Tenzin. Or something.

About the gloves: "Now anyone can possess the power of a chi blocker" or something. So an electric shock prevents bending? Or just stuns you which, obviously, prevents everything?


Hm yeah I was confused about the chi blocker part...

About Tenzin, perhaps they are saving him for later, or they just want to keep him to a non-action kind of a figure.

Also, Lin saving Korra developed their characters more as well as adding more team work to the scene/fight. Tenzin could have done it too but the episode obviously wanted to focus on Lin and Korra improving their relationship. Also they needed a convenient way to show Lin coming back down instead of to keep fighting I guess xD Perhaps she could have stayed fighting, but even if she's good she would still be outnumbered... even so, it's much safer to make sure you save someone, if you wait maybe Tenzin looked away or wouldn't be able to act in time, especially if he's in the middle of the stands... what's he gonna do, blow a huge gust of wind? Maybe he's not that strong. Or maybe he'll see Korra falling but think Lin is coming, etc. So I didn't think it was lame/unbelievable to see Lin save Korra.


Also about the technology, don't they know they have those electric stick things though? Either way, standing with your back to the hall is pretty dumb to me xD especially if it's that small/narrow of a hall. Perhaps they just didn't expect so many attack, but still that's quite a silly thing to mess up on when lives are at stake and it's their job anyways.
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ore0z
Profile Joined December 2009
Romania161 Posts
May 13 2012 06:48 GMT
#1070
Tarrlok is probably not working with Amon. Amon planned from the start that the probending match would still continue, while Tarrlok initially wanted to stop the match for the safety of the people.
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
May 13 2012 07:00 GMT
#1071
Feel like Tarrlok is just one of those strangeish characters. Can't see him tied to Amon though. Isn't Amon's face suppose to be messed up? Would be kind of lame to go back on that or to say Terrlok is always wearing make up in outings if they're the same person.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
May 13 2012 08:08 GMT
#1072
I don't think theyr'e the same person, they might not even be allies, but they're both going to be 'evil.'

Saw this earlier today:
http://i.imgur.com/Ueq33.png

Seems /v/ came up with the same theory, hehe.
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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 08:35:09
May 13 2012 08:33 GMT
#1073
On May 13 2012 17:08 Crazyeyes wrote:
I don't think theyr'e the same person, they might not even be allies, but they're both going to be 'evil.'

Saw this earlier today:
http://i.imgur.com/Ueq33.png

Seems /v/ came up with the same theory, hehe.

The more I think about this one, the more I like it. Sort of a "Butterfly effect" vibe. Something so comical/inconsequential in the first series leads to huge problems.

I think Tarrlock and Amon is just way too obvious. With Amon being linked to technology, I think it's even more likely now Asami becomes Azula 2.0 soon.
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Darkened
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Bulgaria105 Posts
May 13 2012 08:40 GMT
#1074
On May 13 2012 17:33 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 17:08 Crazyeyes wrote:
I don't think theyr'e the same person, they might not even be allies, but they're both going to be 'evil.'

Saw this earlier today:
http://i.imgur.com/Ueq33.png

Seems /v/ came up with the same theory, hehe.

The more I think about this one, the more I like it. Sort of a "Butterfly effect" vibe. Something so comical/inconsequential in the first series leads to huge problems.

I think Tarrlock and Amon is just way too obvious. With Amon being linked to technology, I think it's even more likely now Asami becomes Azula 2.0 soon.


That doesn't work. The cabbage man was around 35-40 years in TLA, if he was the one to form Cabbage Corp he must've been around 65-70. Amon said his parents were killed by a firebender when he was young and that his family lived in a small village. If the cabbage man was the one to form Cabbage Corp that's "a leading force in technology" don't you think his descendants wouldn't be living in a small village but in Republic City like royalty?

P.S. : Amon would be either grand child or great grand child of the cabbage man in the theory from the pic.
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
May 13 2012 09:41 GMT
#1075
my vote is still amon is one of aangs sons.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
May 13 2012 10:15 GMT
#1076
On May 13 2012 17:40 Darkened wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 17:33 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On May 13 2012 17:08 Crazyeyes wrote:
I don't think theyr'e the same person, they might not even be allies, but they're both going to be 'evil.'

Saw this earlier today:
http://i.imgur.com/Ueq33.png

Seems /v/ came up with the same theory, hehe.

The more I think about this one, the more I like it. Sort of a "Butterfly effect" vibe. Something so comical/inconsequential in the first series leads to huge problems.

I think Tarrlock and Amon is just way too obvious. With Amon being linked to technology, I think it's even more likely now Asami becomes Azula 2.0 soon.


That doesn't work. The cabbage man was around 35-40 years in TLA, if he was the one to form Cabbage Corp he must've been around 65-70. Amon said his parents were killed by a firebender when he was young and that his family lived in a small village. If the cabbage man was the one to form Cabbage Corp that's "a leading force in technology" don't you think his descendants wouldn't be living in a small village but in Republic City like royalty?

P.S. : Amon would be either grand child or great grand child of the cabbage man in the theory from the pic.

I dont actully believe amons story, i think he told it just to get sympathy from the non-benders. I pretty sure bringing equality is not the whole story with him, he must have something planed
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 10:31:08
May 13 2012 10:22 GMT
#1077
On May 13 2012 18:41 Angel_ wrote:
my vote is still amon is one of aangs sons.

Unless Amon is Tenzin, which we know he isn't, his skincolor doesn't match up.
Unless Tarrlok is wearing contacts as "Amon" he isn't him either. Tarrlok has pale blue eyes while Amon has yellow eyes(I think? Goggle image search isn't as forigving with him as Tarrlok.

One thing we have to take into account is that Amon could be lying about his face. The mask creates an intimidating, ineffable front while allowing for an easy rallying tale.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
May 13 2012 10:28 GMT
#1078
No one actually believes the cabbageman thing... it's just a joke. Or at least that's my take on it.

I'm sure we've got a while to go before he's unmasked, so it might be someone we havn't even met yet.
I mean, we don't even see Toph until episode 26/61.
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Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
May 13 2012 12:20 GMT
#1079
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On May 13 2012 14:16 gumshoe wrote:
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On May 13 2012 13:45 XXhkXX wrote:
On May 13 2012 13:11 Gahlo wrote:
On May 13 2012 13:07 Cyanocyst wrote:
On May 13 2012 12:56 Gahlo wrote:
Korra is more Suki with a Katara paintjob with a smattering of Toph attitude.

Both Korra's parents are waterbenders.

Ah, Yakone, that's it. Thought they mentioned firebending somewhere, or maybe I had just assumed it to be the case. I dunno. =\

To be fair though, Toph wasn't much different. She had a pampered home life and ran off all the time to the earthbending ring. She was taught by the badger moles, not self taught. She spent an entire episode scamming people in the fire nation. If it weren't for Katara sweating their way out of the cell they would have been used in a trap for Sparky Sparky Boom Man(I refuse to say his silly "official" name.) Was Toph cool? Yes, but don't give her the bacon/Chuck Norris treatment.

Korra gets frustrated easily with airbending because she is the avatar, she knows she has to learn it. Fire, earth, and water came to her easily. For her to have trouble bending, as the avatar, is a real blow to her confidence. You see it in real life too. Some athletes completely dominate at all levels all their lives until they hit the pros. Then some of them struggle to excel or even keep up and get frustrated and do stupid shit. As for using Bolin to get back at Mako, that's just a thing girls do. I'm not condoning it or saying all girls do it, but it's not unheard of.


I really don't think that Korra was using Bolin. She had just got shot down by Makko, and Bolin pumped her up, with all kinds of nice things. It wasn't any kind of plot. Korra doesn't think very far ahead about anything.


Well it did kind of happen right then and there, not much time to plot really. I suppose you're right though, I'm conflicted on what I think actually happened there.

On May 13 2012 13:10 gumshoe wrote:Few random asides: Wouldn't it be cool if ang's chi block that was supposedly fixed at the end of book fire is now affecting korra's ability as an avatar? 2: Is Amon afraid of the avatar state? Is he not removing Korra's bending out of fear of triggering it? 3: Am I the only one who hates villains that are never fazed by anything ever? 4: Maybe it was Amon who payed off the reffs to make a point about how benders are bullies?(seemed awful convenient at the time) 5: Does anyone else read swamp thing?


1. I dunno, I kinda figured that got "fixed" when Aang was fighting Ozai and got slammed into that stone pillar witht he jagged bit hitting him right in his scar, which instantly made him go into the avatar state. 2. It could be he's afraid of it, but as he said he doesn't want to make her a martyr for the worlds benders to get super uppity about. 3. Not gonna try to play devil's advocate here, it's stupid, I agree. 4. Don't think so. Otherwise I don't think the Wolfbats would have blantantly cheated so hard, it probably isn't the first time they payed off refs. Amon has been in the city for a while and probably knew the score. 5. Nope.


3. I kinda like that he appears so calm and collected most of the time, makes Amon look like a BA. Plus, how do you even know if he's completely calm for sure considering we never see his facial expressions? Also, I think that its more that Amon is a cold and calculating person. Since everything has gone according to plan for him its not really any suprise that he shows no fear, I mean even Ozai didn't show fear until his plans started going downhill. Ozai and Azula showed fear quite a few times in the previous series. However, that fear was covered up a lot by their over confidence in their abilities. I swear Ozai was definetly peeing his pants when Aang went into the avatar state in the season finale just look at his facial expressions lol


I just don't appreciate how closed off and basic his character feels, azula was incredibly entertaining, she was certainly cold but active, fierce and relentless. Amon just feels like his trying to be the embodiment of bland justice to get the non benders on his side, which works as a story tool but doesn't make him a very engaging or entertaining villain. The best thing you can do with him is make him terrifying, but unfortunately his powers are very subtle and unpronounced.(removing bending is a powerful tool but it's not terrifying for anyone who isn't a bender, which is what makes it such a useful ability for uniting non benders)

All in all he's not as entertaining as zugo(well...i'm being generous but he definitely had a few good moments, like "I RISE WITH THE SUN MUTHA@UCKA), iyro or azula, and he's not as terrifying as say general grievous in the original clone wars cartoon or pre retcon itachi(back when he could put you through an eternity of unavoideble hell with a glance) or even fellow face obscured terror darth vader. I just don't feel scared enough when he shows up and he's not entertaining because he's really fake for the sake of his revolution. This doesn't meen he's a bad character, it just means he's not quite there yet in terms of development.(a lot of the time building a good villain is harder than a good protagonist)


I agree with you, thats why I like TLA better than Korra. Those characters are one of a kind and really difficult to recreate. Their interaction with each other and their personalities were so enjoyable to follow. None of the characters in Korra have that much development and background story, yet....so I'm just waiting for all the pieces to fall into place since I know the writers still haven't busted out their best
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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
May 13 2012 12:42 GMT
#1080
I never really expected Korra to stand up to the original series. I'm happy enough with the direction they have taken it - they moved on the world, came up with some original ideas and progressed some old ones. It has its flaws (metalbending being open to everyone, having "pro-bending" as some forced way to get action and some character development, the general lack of direct plot and the fact that they are trying to rush the series while still putting in filler episodes) but overall I'm content.
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