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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
September 11 2014 10:09 GMT
#4281
Wow, that's pretty amazing.

Actually, that's wicked cool. I can't wait!
I like words.
Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
September 11 2014 10:40 GMT
#4282
What'll i do when it's over!?!
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
September 11 2014 10:45 GMT
#4283
On September 11 2014 19:40 OhDearGod wrote:
What'll i do when it's over!?!


Your name goes so well with your post.
I like words.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
September 11 2014 17:18 GMT
#4284
On September 11 2014 19:45 Spaylz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 19:40 OhDearGod wrote:
What'll i do when it's over!?!


Your name goes so well with your post.

Thank you so much for pointing that out, gave me a good laugh.
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
September 14 2014 20:59 GMT
#4285
Hrmm, not thrilled that a character that was oddly introduced in the final episode is apparently going to be the next evil boss. That picture seems to show earth bender citizens bound at the wrists while sitting at some long table, which I guess with no context seems like an odd scene, unless she were to say invade a town/elder meeting and bound them all at their table.

And if she were a member of the red lotus, it makes no sense that she assisted in stopping Zaheer. And if she were to indeed just doing this for her own means (betraying the red lotus), that would just make her another Unalaq, really, which would be disappointing. And if she's using whatever ascended status she apparently gains to use the phantom menace Red Lotus as some kind of boogeyman threat against order and the avatar, well that would just make her another Tarrlok!

Well I better stop speculating.
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
September 14 2014 21:03 GMT
#4286
It's interesting.

She really was introduced in an odd way.

However, after the season 3 they just delivered, I'm confident they can give us a quality story. Time will tell what Kuvira really does.
I like words.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 14 2014 21:25 GMT
#4287
On September 15 2014 05:59 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Hrmm, not thrilled that a character that was oddly introduced in the final episode is apparently going to be the next evil boss. That picture seems to show earth bender citizens bound at the wrists while sitting at some long table, which I guess with no context seems like an odd scene, unless she were to say invade a town/elder meeting and bound them all at their table.

The other strange thing is that this scene is in a mountain/desert area, probably a ways out from the Earth Kingdom. My guess is that it's rioting commoners from Ba Sing Se, which implies a takeover.

The metalbender clan very clearly acts against the interests of the Red Lotus, because allowing Korra (and Tonraq) to tie would have pretty clearly sealed the victory of the Red Lotus world vision. At the same time, when has a free army for the hero in Avatar ever been without its caveats? Jet's freedom fighters, the earth soldiers at the start of S2, Omashu army, Ba Sing Se army, Republic City police, United Republic fleet, etc. all turned out to either be evil or useless. The only real exception is the Northern Water Tribe, but they were a bit too small to be any real help anyways.

And then you have an entire army of people who can use the advanced earthbending skill. And they do it with more finesse than Toph ever did (Toph generally had to physically bend the metal, while the metal clan can do it the same as they do with rocks), and they have quite convincingly proven themselves not useless. Something about that screams villain to me.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 21:34:05
September 14 2014 21:27 GMT
#4288
On September 15 2014 06:25 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 05:59 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Hrmm, not thrilled that a character that was oddly introduced in the final episode is apparently going to be the next evil boss. That picture seems to show earth bender citizens bound at the wrists while sitting at some long table, which I guess with no context seems like an odd scene, unless she were to say invade a town/elder meeting and bound them all at their table.

The other strange thing is that this scene is in a mountain/desert area, probably a ways out from the Earth Kingdom. My guess is that it's rioting commoners from Ba Sing Se, which implies a takeover.

The metalbender clan very clearly acts against the interests of the Red Lotus, because allowing Korra (and Tonraq) to tie would have pretty clearly sealed the victory of the Red Lotus world vision. At the same time, when has a free army for the hero in Avatar ever been without its caveats? Jet's freedom fighters, the earth soldiers at the start of S2, Omashu army, Ba Sing Se army, Republic City police, United Republic fleet, etc. all turned out to either be evil or useless. The only real exception is the Northern Water Tribe, but they were a bit too small to be any real help anyways.

And then you have an entire army of people who can use the advanced earthbending skill. And they do it with more finesse than Toph ever did (Toph generally had to physically bend the metal, while the metal clan can do it the same as they do with rocks), and they have quite convincingly proven themselves not useless. Something about that screams villain to me.



Um you must not have seen the end of ATLA where she metal bended without physical contact. Also it was just introduced can't master it immediately .

Also if you read the comics you see her do it as well (rift part 1 has it, can't remember the other comic names that have it).
When I think of something else, something will go here
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 21:32:52
September 14 2014 21:31 GMT
#4289
On September 15 2014 06:27 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 06:25 LegalLord wrote:
On September 15 2014 05:59 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Hrmm, not thrilled that a character that was oddly introduced in the final episode is apparently going to be the next evil boss. That picture seems to show earth bender citizens bound at the wrists while sitting at some long table, which I guess with no context seems like an odd scene, unless she were to say invade a town/elder meeting and bound them all at their table.

The other strange thing is that this scene is in a mountain/desert area, probably a ways out from the Earth Kingdom. My guess is that it's rioting commoners from Ba Sing Se, which implies a takeover.

The metalbender clan very clearly acts against the interests of the Red Lotus, because allowing Korra (and Tonraq) to tie would have pretty clearly sealed the victory of the Red Lotus world vision. At the same time, when has a free army for the hero in Avatar ever been without its caveats? Jet's freedom fighters, the earth soldiers at the start of S2, Omashu army, Ba Sing Se army, Republic City police, United Republic fleet, etc. all turned out to either be evil or useless. The only real exception is the Northern Water Tribe, but they were a bit too small to be any real help anyways.

And then you have an entire army of people who can use the advanced earthbending skill. And they do it with more finesse than Toph ever did (Toph generally had to physically bend the metal, while the metal clan can do it the same as they do with rocks), and they have quite convincingly proven themselves not useless. Something about that screams villain to me.



Um you must not have seen the end of ATLA where she metal bended without physical contact. Also it was just introduced, do you really think she didn't learn to use it better when she got older?

Sure, but the other thing to realize is that Toph was the best earthbender out there, and she still had trouble with metal. Yet all of the metalbenders seem to do what took Toph a long time to do, and do it better than she did. That would be like if Mako could just make instant and massive lightning like Ozai's attack vs Zuko (or Jeong Jeong's flame wall).

Also, Lin vs Suyin was, I felt, much more one sided than it should have been. Perhaps there's a reason for that?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 21:35:36
September 14 2014 21:34 GMT
#4290
On September 15 2014 06:31 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 06:27 blade55555 wrote:
On September 15 2014 06:25 LegalLord wrote:
On September 15 2014 05:59 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Hrmm, not thrilled that a character that was oddly introduced in the final episode is apparently going to be the next evil boss. That picture seems to show earth bender citizens bound at the wrists while sitting at some long table, which I guess with no context seems like an odd scene, unless she were to say invade a town/elder meeting and bound them all at their table.

The other strange thing is that this scene is in a mountain/desert area, probably a ways out from the Earth Kingdom. My guess is that it's rioting commoners from Ba Sing Se, which implies a takeover.

The metalbender clan very clearly acts against the interests of the Red Lotus, because allowing Korra (and Tonraq) to tie would have pretty clearly sealed the victory of the Red Lotus world vision. At the same time, when has a free army for the hero in Avatar ever been without its caveats? Jet's freedom fighters, the earth soldiers at the start of S2, Omashu army, Ba Sing Se army, Republic City police, United Republic fleet, etc. all turned out to either be evil or useless. The only real exception is the Northern Water Tribe, but they were a bit too small to be any real help anyways.

And then you have an entire army of people who can use the advanced earthbending skill. And they do it with more finesse than Toph ever did (Toph generally had to physically bend the metal, while the metal clan can do it the same as they do with rocks), and they have quite convincingly proven themselves not useless. Something about that screams villain to me.



Um you must not have seen the end of ATLA where she metal bended without physical contact. Also it was just introduced, do you really think she didn't learn to use it better when she got older?

Sure, but the other thing to realize is that Toph was the best earthbender out there, and she still had trouble with metal. Yet all of the metalbenders seem to do what took Toph a long time to do, and do it better than she did. That would be like if Mako could just make instant and massive lightning like Ozai's attack vs Zuko (or Jeong Jeong's flame wall).

Also, Lin vs Suyin was, I felt, much more one sided than it should have been. Perhaps there's a reason for that?


She had trouble with metal because she created it. You don't master it over night, same with other metal benders they didn't just master it, they had to learn it and then went from there.

Lin vs suyin was more one sided because Lin was kind of out of it if you watch. She was breathing hard before they even fought. Also Suyin utilizes tophs style of fighting more which imo is still superior to other earth benders.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
September 14 2014 21:49 GMT
#4291
On September 15 2014 06:31 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 06:27 blade55555 wrote:
On September 15 2014 06:25 LegalLord wrote:
On September 15 2014 05:59 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Hrmm, not thrilled that a character that was oddly introduced in the final episode is apparently going to be the next evil boss. That picture seems to show earth bender citizens bound at the wrists while sitting at some long table, which I guess with no context seems like an odd scene, unless she were to say invade a town/elder meeting and bound them all at their table.

The other strange thing is that this scene is in a mountain/desert area, probably a ways out from the Earth Kingdom. My guess is that it's rioting commoners from Ba Sing Se, which implies a takeover.

The metalbender clan very clearly acts against the interests of the Red Lotus, because allowing Korra (and Tonraq) to tie would have pretty clearly sealed the victory of the Red Lotus world vision. At the same time, when has a free army for the hero in Avatar ever been without its caveats? Jet's freedom fighters, the earth soldiers at the start of S2, Omashu army, Ba Sing Se army, Republic City police, United Republic fleet, etc. all turned out to either be evil or useless. The only real exception is the Northern Water Tribe, but they were a bit too small to be any real help anyways.

And then you have an entire army of people who can use the advanced earthbending skill. And they do it with more finesse than Toph ever did (Toph generally had to physically bend the metal, while the metal clan can do it the same as they do with rocks), and they have quite convincingly proven themselves not useless. Something about that screams villain to me.



Um you must not have seen the end of ATLA where she metal bended without physical contact. Also it was just introduced, do you really think she didn't learn to use it better when she got older?

Sure, but the other thing to realize is that Toph was the best earthbender out there, and she still had trouble with metal. Yet all of the metalbenders seem to do what took Toph a long time to do, and do it better than she did. That would be like if Mako could just make instant and massive lightning like Ozai's attack vs Zuko (or Jeong Jeong's flame wall).

Also, Lin vs Suyin was, I felt, much more one sided than it should have been. Perhaps there's a reason for that?

Orville and Wilber Wright invented flying, but the Blue Angels would fly circles around them.

The first person to do something is usually not the best at it. They have to learn it all themselves, and have no past experiences to rely on.
Who called in the fleet?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 21:55:03
September 14 2014 21:53 GMT
#4292
Well it's not that it wouldn't be possible, it's more so that doing what the metalbenders do is not an easy feat. That makes me suspect that they're not just a straightforward "free army for Team Avatar" group. Suyin certainly has the demeanor of a person with her own agenda.


On September 15 2014 06:34 blade55555 wrote:
Lin vs suyin was more one sided because Lin was kind of out of it if you watch. She was breathing hard before they even fought. Also Suyin utilizes tophs style of fighting more which imo is still superior to other earth benders.

That's true. But also I'm pretty sure Suyin is the better fighter overall, and Lin knows it too. Their strategy for beating P'li certainly gives the impression that Su is a more capable bender.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 15 2014 02:31 GMT
#4293
On September 15 2014 06:31 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 06:27 blade55555 wrote:
On September 15 2014 06:25 LegalLord wrote:
On September 15 2014 05:59 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Hrmm, not thrilled that a character that was oddly introduced in the final episode is apparently going to be the next evil boss. That picture seems to show earth bender citizens bound at the wrists while sitting at some long table, which I guess with no context seems like an odd scene, unless she were to say invade a town/elder meeting and bound them all at their table.

The other strange thing is that this scene is in a mountain/desert area, probably a ways out from the Earth Kingdom. My guess is that it's rioting commoners from Ba Sing Se, which implies a takeover.

The metalbender clan very clearly acts against the interests of the Red Lotus, because allowing Korra (and Tonraq) to tie would have pretty clearly sealed the victory of the Red Lotus world vision. At the same time, when has a free army for the hero in Avatar ever been without its caveats? Jet's freedom fighters, the earth soldiers at the start of S2, Omashu army, Ba Sing Se army, Republic City police, United Republic fleet, etc. all turned out to either be evil or useless. The only real exception is the Northern Water Tribe, but they were a bit too small to be any real help anyways.

And then you have an entire army of people who can use the advanced earthbending skill. And they do it with more finesse than Toph ever did (Toph generally had to physically bend the metal, while the metal clan can do it the same as they do with rocks), and they have quite convincingly proven themselves not useless. Something about that screams villain to me.



Um you must not have seen the end of ATLA where she metal bended without physical contact. Also it was just introduced, do you really think she didn't learn to use it better when she got older?

Sure, but the other thing to realize is that Toph was the best earthbender out there, and she still had trouble with metal. Yet all of the metalbenders seem to do what took Toph a long time to do, and do it better than she did. That would be like if Mako could just make instant and massive lightning like Ozai's attack vs Zuko (or Jeong Jeong's flame wall).

Also, Lin vs Suyin was, I felt, much more one sided than it should have been. Perhaps there's a reason for that?

Also lightning bending had probably been around before Ozai so there was less to improve on. Azula was a prodigy and in their time people trained more for war.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-15 02:43:59
September 15 2014 02:43 GMT
#4294
for the lighting bending stuff i like to believe the workers's lighting is weaker and less powerful (not really used for fighting..tho its just all in my head to satisfy the now common place of lighting...T_T)
Compared to the lighting benders in TLA who obviously used them for fighting and battle
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 15 2014 03:15 GMT
#4295
Lightning also was something that one could learn in practice or apply it in work without being able to actually use it in combat due to the "peace of mind" it required
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Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
September 15 2014 03:16 GMT
#4296
On September 15 2014 11:43 Shock710 wrote:
for the lighting bending stuff i like to believe the workers's lighting is weaker and less powerful (not really used for fighting..tho its just all in my head to satisfy the now common place of lighting...T_T)
Compared to the lighting benders in TLA who obviously used them for fighting and battle

The powerplant workers wouldn't be able to aim really. They're used to shooting it at a collector a couple feet away, not at a moving target who could be 20 yards away. They'd also probably prioritize learning how to maintain a bolt over a long period of time over how to get the strongest lightning.
Who called in the fleet?
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
September 15 2014 03:58 GMT
#4297
I cant remember if zuko ever learned to lighting bend? i know he could redirect it, but when he first tried it, it just blew up in his face most the time and iroh said it was something like he had like inner turmoil, but later after he reformed shouldnt he be able to lighting bend now then? Cant remember if he's used it in korra
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 15 2014 04:05 GMT
#4298
On September 15 2014 12:58 Shock710 wrote:
I cant remember if zuko ever learned to lighting bend? i know he could redirect it, but when he first tried it, it just blew up in his face most the time and iroh said it was something like he had like inner turmoil, but later after he reformed shouldnt he be able to lighting bend now then? Cant remember if he's used it in korra


We have never seen him do it as of yet.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8658 Posts
September 15 2014 08:25 GMT
#4299
On September 15 2014 12:58 Shock710 wrote:
I cant remember if zuko ever learned to lighting bend? i know he could redirect it, but when he first tried it, it just blew up in his face most the time and iroh said it was something like he had like inner turmoil, but later after he reformed shouldnt he be able to lighting bend now then? Cant remember if he's used it in korra


From how he talks like, after redirecting the lightning at his father, I think we can assume he can do it. The "inner turmoil" Iroh spoke about applies to both. Redircting and "creating" is essentially the same, because they don't create it, but channel it from around them through themselves and redirect it as a bundle in a certain direction.
If he still had the inner turmoil when he faced his father he would have been grilled. No chance to redirect at all.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
September 15 2014 17:50 GMT
#4300
On September 15 2014 17:25 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 12:58 Shock710 wrote:
I cant remember if zuko ever learned to lighting bend? i know he could redirect it, but when he first tried it, it just blew up in his face most the time and iroh said it was something like he had like inner turmoil, but later after he reformed shouldnt he be able to lighting bend now then? Cant remember if he's used it in korra


From how he talks like, after redirecting the lightning at his father, I think we can assume he can do it. The "inner turmoil" Iroh spoke about applies to both. Redircting and "creating" is essentially the same, because they don't create it, but channel it from around them through themselves and redirect it as a bundle in a certain direction.
If he still had the inner turmoil when he faced his father he would have been grilled. No chance to redirect at all.


No, I think redirecting lightning is just providing a channel for energy to flow through, whereas generating it requires some sort of "internal peace". That's why Iroh taught him lightning redirection after he failed at lightning generation; if the former had the same requirements as the latter, why would he bother?

I'm pretty sure that by the end of TLA, Zuko hadn't learned lightning generation.
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