Actually, that's wicked cool. I can't wait!
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
Actually, that's wicked cool. I can't wait! | ||
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Motlu
Australia884 Posts
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On September 11 2014 19:40 OhDearGod wrote: What'll i do when it's over!?! Your name goes so well with your post. | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
Thank you so much for pointing that out, gave me a good laugh. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
And if she were a member of the red lotus, it makes no sense that she assisted in stopping Zaheer. And if she were to indeed just doing this for her own means (betraying the red lotus), that would just make her another Unalaq, really, which would be disappointing. And if she's using whatever ascended status she apparently gains to use the phantom menace Red Lotus as some kind of boogeyman threat against order and the avatar, well that would just make her another Tarrlok! Well I better stop speculating. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
She really was introduced in an odd way. However, after the season 3 they just delivered, I'm confident they can give us a quality story. Time will tell what Kuvira really does. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On September 15 2014 05:59 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Hrmm, not thrilled that a character that was oddly introduced in the final episode is apparently going to be the next evil boss. That picture seems to show earth bender citizens bound at the wrists while sitting at some long table, which I guess with no context seems like an odd scene, unless she were to say invade a town/elder meeting and bound them all at their table. The other strange thing is that this scene is in a mountain/desert area, probably a ways out from the Earth Kingdom. My guess is that it's rioting commoners from Ba Sing Se, which implies a takeover. The metalbender clan very clearly acts against the interests of the Red Lotus, because allowing Korra (and Tonraq) to tie would have pretty clearly sealed the victory of the Red Lotus world vision. At the same time, when has a free army for the hero in Avatar ever been without its caveats? Jet's freedom fighters, the earth soldiers at the start of S2, Omashu army, Ba Sing Se army, Republic City police, United Republic fleet, etc. all turned out to either be evil or useless. The only real exception is the Northern Water Tribe, but they were a bit too small to be any real help anyways. And then you have an entire army of people who can use the advanced earthbending skill. And they do it with more finesse than Toph ever did (Toph generally had to physically bend the metal, while the metal clan can do it the same as they do with rocks), and they have quite convincingly proven themselves not useless. Something about that screams villain to me. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 15 2014 06:25 LegalLord wrote: The other strange thing is that this scene is in a mountain/desert area, probably a ways out from the Earth Kingdom. My guess is that it's rioting commoners from Ba Sing Se, which implies a takeover. The metalbender clan very clearly acts against the interests of the Red Lotus, because allowing Korra (and Tonraq) to tie would have pretty clearly sealed the victory of the Red Lotus world vision. At the same time, when has a free army for the hero in Avatar ever been without its caveats? Jet's freedom fighters, the earth soldiers at the start of S2, Omashu army, Ba Sing Se army, Republic City police, United Republic fleet, etc. all turned out to either be evil or useless. The only real exception is the Northern Water Tribe, but they were a bit too small to be any real help anyways. And then you have an entire army of people who can use the advanced earthbending skill. And they do it with more finesse than Toph ever did (Toph generally had to physically bend the metal, while the metal clan can do it the same as they do with rocks), and they have quite convincingly proven themselves not useless. Something about that screams villain to me. Um you must not have seen the end of ATLA where she metal bended without physical contact. Also it was just introduced can't master it immediately .Also if you read the comics you see her do it as well (rift part 1 has it, can't remember the other comic names that have it). | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On September 15 2014 06:27 blade55555 wrote: Um you must not have seen the end of ATLA where she metal bended without physical contact. Also it was just introduced, do you really think she didn't learn to use it better when she got older? Sure, but the other thing to realize is that Toph was the best earthbender out there, and she still had trouble with metal. Yet all of the metalbenders seem to do what took Toph a long time to do, and do it better than she did. That would be like if Mako could just make instant and massive lightning like Ozai's attack vs Zuko (or Jeong Jeong's flame wall). Also, Lin vs Suyin was, I felt, much more one sided than it should have been. Perhaps there's a reason for that? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 15 2014 06:31 LegalLord wrote: Sure, but the other thing to realize is that Toph was the best earthbender out there, and she still had trouble with metal. Yet all of the metalbenders seem to do what took Toph a long time to do, and do it better than she did. That would be like if Mako could just make instant and massive lightning like Ozai's attack vs Zuko (or Jeong Jeong's flame wall). Also, Lin vs Suyin was, I felt, much more one sided than it should have been. Perhaps there's a reason for that? She had trouble with metal because she created it. You don't master it over night, same with other metal benders they didn't just master it, they had to learn it and then went from there. Lin vs suyin was more one sided because Lin was kind of out of it if you watch. She was breathing hard before they even fought. Also Suyin utilizes tophs style of fighting more which imo is still superior to other earth benders. | ||
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Millitron
United States2611 Posts
On September 15 2014 06:31 LegalLord wrote: Sure, but the other thing to realize is that Toph was the best earthbender out there, and she still had trouble with metal. Yet all of the metalbenders seem to do what took Toph a long time to do, and do it better than she did. That would be like if Mako could just make instant and massive lightning like Ozai's attack vs Zuko (or Jeong Jeong's flame wall). Also, Lin vs Suyin was, I felt, much more one sided than it should have been. Perhaps there's a reason for that? Orville and Wilber Wright invented flying, but the Blue Angels would fly circles around them. The first person to do something is usually not the best at it. They have to learn it all themselves, and have no past experiences to rely on. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On September 15 2014 06:34 blade55555 wrote: Lin vs suyin was more one sided because Lin was kind of out of it if you watch. She was breathing hard before they even fought. Also Suyin utilizes tophs style of fighting more which imo is still superior to other earth benders. That's true. But also I'm pretty sure Suyin is the better fighter overall, and Lin knows it too. Their strategy for beating P'li certainly gives the impression that Su is a more capable bender. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On September 15 2014 06:31 LegalLord wrote: Sure, but the other thing to realize is that Toph was the best earthbender out there, and she still had trouble with metal. Yet all of the metalbenders seem to do what took Toph a long time to do, and do it better than she did. That would be like if Mako could just make instant and massive lightning like Ozai's attack vs Zuko (or Jeong Jeong's flame wall). Also, Lin vs Suyin was, I felt, much more one sided than it should have been. Perhaps there's a reason for that? Also lightning bending had probably been around before Ozai so there was less to improve on. Azula was a prodigy and in their time people trained more for war. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
Compared to the lighting benders in TLA who obviously used them for fighting and battle | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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Millitron
United States2611 Posts
On September 15 2014 11:43 Shock710 wrote: for the lighting bending stuff i like to believe the workers's lighting is weaker and less powerful (not really used for fighting..tho its just all in my head to satisfy the now common place of lighting...T_T) Compared to the lighting benders in TLA who obviously used them for fighting and battle The powerplant workers wouldn't be able to aim really. They're used to shooting it at a collector a couple feet away, not at a moving target who could be 20 yards away. They'd also probably prioritize learning how to maintain a bolt over a long period of time over how to get the strongest lightning. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 15 2014 12:58 Shock710 wrote: I cant remember if zuko ever learned to lighting bend? i know he could redirect it, but when he first tried it, it just blew up in his face most the time and iroh said it was something like he had like inner turmoil, but later after he reformed shouldnt he be able to lighting bend now then? Cant remember if he's used it in korra We have never seen him do it as of yet. | ||
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Miragee
8658 Posts
On September 15 2014 12:58 Shock710 wrote: I cant remember if zuko ever learned to lighting bend? i know he could redirect it, but when he first tried it, it just blew up in his face most the time and iroh said it was something like he had like inner turmoil, but later after he reformed shouldnt he be able to lighting bend now then? Cant remember if he's used it in korra From how he talks like, after redirecting the lightning at his father, I think we can assume he can do it. The "inner turmoil" Iroh spoke about applies to both. Redircting and "creating" is essentially the same, because they don't create it, but channel it from around them through themselves and redirect it as a bundle in a certain direction. If he still had the inner turmoil when he faced his father he would have been grilled. No chance to redirect at all. | ||
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United States10328 Posts
On September 15 2014 17:25 Miragee wrote: From how he talks like, after redirecting the lightning at his father, I think we can assume he can do it. The "inner turmoil" Iroh spoke about applies to both. Redircting and "creating" is essentially the same, because they don't create it, but channel it from around them through themselves and redirect it as a bundle in a certain direction. If he still had the inner turmoil when he faced his father he would have been grilled. No chance to redirect at all. No, I think redirecting lightning is just providing a channel for energy to flow through, whereas generating it requires some sort of "internal peace". That's why Iroh taught him lightning redirection after he failed at lightning generation; if the former had the same requirements as the latter, why would he bother? I'm pretty sure that by the end of TLA, Zuko hadn't learned lightning generation. | ||
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