EPT[TV] The Legend of Korra - Page 209
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Nocteo
Belgium799 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On August 23 2014 15:57 Hyperbola wrote: You know, the second season of korra retconned a lot of things. The avatar state used to be simply a borrowing of skill and knowledge from past avatars that made anyone into a mega master bender. Now it's pretty much spirit power. Season 2 of LOK expanded, not retconned. Maybe Roku/Aang didn't know about Wan and Raava? Oh and by the way, how can Wan go into the avatar state if he didn't have any knowledge about previous avatars? Also, there were entire episodes dedicated to how each nation learned to bend either from the moon, dragons, moles or bison. Season 2 basically said nope, the turtles gave everyone their powers of elements. The Moon, dragons, moles and bisons are the original BENDERS. The turtles gave the power, but those people were just shooting it at spirits, no actual bending (martial arts) involved. Wan learned actual firebending from a dragon, as seen in season 2. He later mopped the floor with the other guys from his "turtle". Also there's that whole thing about thousands of random people becoming air benders out of nowhere (although that was a season 3 thing.) It's not out of nowhere. If you saw season 3 you know why there are more airbenders. Harmonic convergence gave balance to the world, that's why. And I also remember reading that lava bending is only possible by avatars because it requires both fire and earth affinity but apparently that's retconned too. What? I've never heard of this before. Lava is hot earth, not fire. There isn't any fire in lava. And since when can you bend water without any arms? Wasn't that a major plot point in the original series? You know what, fuck it, I don't care anymore. Bumi can earthbend without his arms too. Aang is even like "You can earthbend?! All along?!" And then Bumi says "Well, they didn't cover my face" | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
the enviroment is less detailed and diverse, there are too many characters, bending is nothing special (i mean lightning bending was amazing in the original, now mako can work in a powerplant with it, and do it while jumping around in a cave? i remember the firebenders carefully separating their chi and standing firm on the ground to have the electricity flow through...) the short seasons always featuring a villain to defeat feel more like a superhero show, very straight forward and lacking the big picture, and i guess i am pissed that all past avatars got erased and replaced by spirit iroh who should really be reunited with his son in the afterlife (the memorial episode in TLA was so so so sad...) still and by far one of the best current western cartoons out there, so i guess i hoped for more each season anew ~~ | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
On August 23 2014 17:59 Nocteo wrote: Is there any information on when season 4 will air? Yip yip? | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
The worst offense is that the no arms lady isn't even a blood bender... | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On August 23 2014 20:13 iTzSnypah wrote: I really don't like how trivial they are making bending seem. The most painful thing that makes me cringe is that why didn't Aang just take away the bending powers of the red lotus? It's a simple oversight that discredits the whole series. Also Zukos bending power is pathetic. I mean I know he's old but Bomi, Iroh, Jonjon, Paku, the puppetmaster lady ect were still very powerful masters despite their age. The worst offense is that the no arms lady isn't even a blood bender... Cause the Red Lotus struck first when Aang was dead, I think. They tried to kidnap Korra as a child, that's when they got locked up. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On August 23 2014 20:13 iTzSnypah wrote: I really don't like how trivial they are making bending seem. The most painful thing that makes me cringe is that why didn't Aang just take away the bending powers of the red lotus? It's a simple oversight that discredits the whole series. Also Zukos bending power is pathetic. I mean I know he's old but Bomi, Iroh, Jonjon, Paku, the puppetmaster lady ect were still very powerful masters despite their age. The worst offense is that the no arms lady isn't even a blood bender... Well, the Red Lotus was only created after Aang's death. The whole idea behind the Red Lotus is that the White Lotus has lost its true purpose, serving as mere guardians of the Avatar. So Xai Bau departed and created the Red Lotus. I agree about Zuko's bending power. People age differently though. Bumi was older than Zuko is now, but he was in tremendous shape. Zuko doesn't seem to have aged so well. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 23 2014 21:30 Warri wrote: but zuko has trained with a dragon, hell he even has a pet dragon now. he should be above avatar power in firebending now. He is also super old. And I don't think anyone can be above the avatar in natural talent. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On August 23 2014 21:30 Warri wrote: but zuko has trained with a dragon, hell he even has a pet dragon now. he should be above avatar power in firebending now. He was for sure in his prime. He could have easily taken Ozai if you ask me, since he can redirect lightning. The same argument could be made for Katara. She had awesome power as a waterbender, but now she's rather weak and frail. That's aging for you. | ||
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Dimagus
United States1004 Posts
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
Best season of LoK by far, really hyped for S4 now. | ||
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
Also I fucking love the parallels between the Korra/Zaheer fight and the Aang/Ozai fight. A lot of the same scenery and bending, but this time it was the avatar shooting around with foot rockets.  | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
On August 24 2014 03:59 dudeman001 wrote: It's interesting how they bring up that Toph "disappeared in the past" earlier in the season and didn't follow up with that in the season that was really focused on her and her family. I don't really mind, it's just an interesting choice to leave a lingering mystery like that. Also I fucking love the parallels between the Korra/Zaheer fight and the Aang/Ozai fight. A lot of the same scenery and bending, but this time it was the avatar shooting around with foot rockets. Indeed, and the villian was the airbender this time. However, they really butchered firebending in LOK, apart from the lightning. Almost every fight in ATLA with a firebender had some serious repurcussions, if not for the combatants, then at least for the surrounding area. Think about season 1, how Zhao took out his own fleet with firebending, how he killed the moonspirit with it. And in season 2, everywhere Aang went, azula set the whole village on fire and then even burned Iroh. Hell, zuko burned Toph's feet without even trying to. And let's not start with agni-kais and Zuko's scar. Fire was serious and dangerous. In LOK, fire is completely harmless everytime. The first scene from current time we see is a completely friendly fire duel between korra and trainers. I can't think of a single scene in all 3 seasons, excluding the wan episodes, where fire was dangerous. It really is just redcolored airbending :/ | ||
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On August 24 2014 04:34 Warri wrote: Indeed, and the villian was the airbender this time. However, they really butchered firebending in LOK, apart from the lightning. Almost every fight in ATLA with a firebender had some serious repurcussions, if not for the combatants, then at least for the surrounding area. Think about season 1, how Zhao took out his own fleet with firebending, how he killed the moonspirit with it. And in season 2, everywhere Aang went, azula set the whole village on fire and then even burned Iroh. Hell, zuko burned Toph's feet without even trying to. And let's not start with agni-kais and Zuko's scar. Fire was serious and dangerous. In LOK, fire is completely harmless everytime. The first scene from current time we see is a completely friendly fire duel between korra and trainers. I can't think of a single scene in all 3 seasons, excluding the wan episodes, where fire was dangerous. It really is just redcolored airbending :/ That was more reflective of the warlike and destructive nature of the Fire Nation itself, imo. The Fire Nation in LoK no longer thirsts for war and destruction; it's much more calm and peaceful. Remember, Ozai's Fire Nation was one that had been waging a massive global war for 100 years, who knows what that kind of thing does to a nation and its benders spiritually. Perhaps this is also why lightning is much more common now among Fire Benders, to the point they can use it for an every day job. Without the thirst for battle and conquest among the Fire Nation, it's possible the bending itself is more centered and calm. Do remember there's this whole spiritual aspect to the show, and it's manifested itself in national/global ways before. | ||
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