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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 09 2014 00:49 GMT
#4001
She still has Raava inside of her. There's little reason to believe Korra can't find a way to re-enter the Avatar state. She just can't at the moment.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
August 09 2014 08:38 GMT
#4002
On August 09 2014 09:49 obesechicken13 wrote:
She still has Raava inside of her. There's little reason to believe Korra can't find a way to re-enter the Avatar state. She just can't at the moment.


she already used the state this season, think the first episode, to try and get rid of the vines (which didnt work).
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 09 2014 08:45 GMT
#4003
But
"The Avatar State is a defense mechanism, designed to empower you with the skills and knowledge of all the past Avatars. The glow is the combination of all your past lives, focusing their energy through your body. In the Avatar State, you are at your most powerful, but you are also at your most vulnerable. If you are killed in the Avatar State, the reincarnation cycle will be broken and the Avatar will cease to exist."
―Roku to Aang.[18]
She has no connection to her past lives anymore, so the avatar state is not that powerful anymore.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 09:17:57
August 09 2014 09:17 GMT
#4004
On August 09 2014 17:45 Warri wrote:
She has no connection to her past lives anymore, so the avatar state is not that powerful anymore.

Oh right.
On August 09 2014 17:38 Koerage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 09:49 obesechicken13 wrote:
She still has Raava inside of her. There's little reason to believe Korra can't find a way to re-enter the Avatar state. She just can't at the moment.


she already used the state this season, think the first episode, to try and get rid of the vines (which didnt work).


Her past lives may be lost but she's still fused with the light spirit. It's unclear how weak she would've gotten, but Avatar Wan was not weak and he had no past lives either. She just can't call on them for help.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
August 09 2014 09:24 GMT
#4005
Wait, this is a kids show, right? That was pretty brutal.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 10 2014 08:47 GMT
#4006
even though this has been mentioned by like 10 people now, I've definitely considered the "airbending air out of lungs" thing but did not expect it in the show

the "Korra and Asami help out the crew" thing was cute, I guess? I wonder what the sand shark thingy was
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Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
August 10 2014 11:18 GMT
#4007
On August 10 2014 17:47 ]343[ wrote:
even though this has been mentioned by like 10 people now, I've definitely considered the "airbending air out of lungs" thing but did not expect it in the show

the "Korra and Asami help out the crew" thing was cute, I guess? I wonder what the sand shark thingy was


i was somewhat surprised that the crew was only 4 people - would've expected a few more, considering they had the avatar and all...
SupaChicken
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia273 Posts
August 10 2014 11:46 GMT
#4008
On August 10 2014 20:18 Koerage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 17:47 ]343[ wrote:
even though this has been mentioned by like 10 people now, I've definitely considered the "airbending air out of lungs" thing but did not expect it in the show

the "Korra and Asami help out the crew" thing was cute, I guess? I wonder what the sand shark thingy was


i was somewhat surprised that the crew was only 4 people - would've expected a few more, considering they had the avatar and all...

Unless they all died in the crash... That didn't look like a soft landing to me.
I need a new quote...
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
August 10 2014 13:38 GMT
#4009
Question: What exactly is the Red Lotus' plan in this? They seem like really pointless anarchists so far "So yeah we want to kill all leaders and FREE THE PEOPLE!, I guess they'll see what they want to do after that, we don't care". I mean they apparently aren't interested in power/control, so they just want people to be free of government and that's it?. As what they want with Korra they probably just want to lock her up? maybe? if they kill her she'll just respawn as a new avatar so .
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
August 10 2014 13:45 GMT
#4010
On August 10 2014 22:38 TanKLoveR wrote:
Question: What exactly is the Red Lotus' plan in this? They seem like really pointless anarchists so far "So yeah we want to kill all leaders and FREE THE PEOPLE!, I guess they'll see what they want to do after that, we don't care". I mean they apparently aren't interested in power/control, so they just want people to be free of government and that's it?. As what they want with Korra they probably just want to lock her up? maybe? if they kill her she'll just respawn as a new avatar so .


I think they want to lead her onto the path of righteousness and anarchy. Since she is supposed to be the guardian of balance in the world and the relationship between people in power and the small guys was clearly out of balance. They never really intended to kill her, just to turn her, so she could help in the revolution against all governments. Which would have been much easier if they had grabbed her when she was young.

I'm not yet sure though what the show actually aims at. Promoting democracy as a solution? Showing that governments, even though they might not be fair, are necessary?
Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 14:49:58
August 10 2014 14:16 GMT
#4011
On August 10 2014 20:18 Koerage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 17:47 ]343[ wrote:
even though this has been mentioned by like 10 people now, I've definitely considered the "airbending air out of lungs" thing but did not expect it in the show

the "Korra and Asami help out the crew" thing was cute, I guess? I wonder what the sand shark thingy was


i was somewhat surprised that the crew was only 4 people - would've expected a few more, considering they had the avatar and all...

The people that captured her weren't just those at the airship. There was an Earth Kingdom military base in the area.


On August 10 2014 22:45 Fi0na wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 22:38 TanKLoveR wrote:
Question: What exactly is the Red Lotus' plan in this? They seem like really pointless anarchists so far "So yeah we want to kill all leaders and FREE THE PEOPLE!, I guess they'll see what they want to do after that, we don't care". I mean they apparently aren't interested in power/control, so they just want people to be free of government and that's it?. As what they want with Korra they probably just want to lock her up? maybe? if they kill her she'll just respawn as a new avatar so .


I'm not yet sure though what the show actually aims at. Promoting democracy as a solution? Showing that governments, even though they might not be fair, are necessary?

It would be a hard sell to make a convincing argument that the Earth Queen was in any way a good thing.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
August 10 2014 15:14 GMT
#4012
On August 10 2014 23:16 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 20:18 Koerage wrote:
On August 10 2014 17:47 ]343[ wrote:
even though this has been mentioned by like 10 people now, I've definitely considered the "airbending air out of lungs" thing but did not expect it in the show

the "Korra and Asami help out the crew" thing was cute, I guess? I wonder what the sand shark thingy was


i was somewhat surprised that the crew was only 4 people - would've expected a few more, considering they had the avatar and all...

The people that captured her weren't just those at the airship. There was an Earth Kingdom military base in the area.


i ment that only sending 4 dudes seems a bit weak of a guard... suppose the rest could've died with the crash even tho its supposed to be a kids show
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
August 10 2014 15:22 GMT
#4013
On August 11 2014 00:14 Koerage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 23:16 LegalLord wrote:
On August 10 2014 20:18 Koerage wrote:
On August 10 2014 17:47 ]343[ wrote:
even though this has been mentioned by like 10 people now, I've definitely considered the "airbending air out of lungs" thing but did not expect it in the show

the "Korra and Asami help out the crew" thing was cute, I guess? I wonder what the sand shark thingy was


i was somewhat surprised that the crew was only 4 people - would've expected a few more, considering they had the avatar and all...

The people that captured her weren't just those at the airship. There was an Earth Kingdom military base in the area.


i ment that only sending 4 dudes seems a bit weak of a guard... suppose the rest could've died with the crash even tho its supposed to be a kids show

Well the Earth kingdom forces don't strike me as being particularly competent either. Asami's escape was only possible because they made rather idiotic mistakes in holding them.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2552 Posts
August 10 2014 15:48 GMT
#4014
So all it takes to kill the most powerful monarch in the world is four benders? All it takes to start a revolution is killing their leader and saying "you're all free now :^)" Man the world of the Avatar series is a tiny, tiny place.
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Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 16:41:19
August 10 2014 16:41 GMT
#4015
On August 11 2014 00:48 Hyperbola wrote:
So all it takes to kill the most powerful monarch in the world is four benders? All it takes to start a revolution is killing their leader and saying "you're all free now :^)" Man the world of the Avatar series is a tiny, tiny place.


im not sure if the other nations are kingdoms, because i'd rate the earthkingdom after the fire and even waternation in terms of strenght - it might be the biggest, its also the worst controlled (imo)
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2552 Posts
August 10 2014 18:34 GMT
#4016
On August 11 2014 01:41 Koerage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 00:48 Hyperbola wrote:
So all it takes to kill the most powerful monarch in the world is four benders? All it takes to start a revolution is killing their leader and saying "you're all free now :^)" Man the world of the Avatar series is a tiny, tiny place.


im not sure if the other nations are kingdoms, because i'd rate the earthkingdom after the fire and even waternation in terms of strenght - it might be the biggest, its also the worst controlled (imo)

Keep in mind that all of the free cities used to be just a small part of the earth kingdom. Ba sinsei is big enough to fit a good chunk of the fire islans into. The earth queen controls the largest empire in the world. The water nation is pretty much two small settlements in an icy wasteland and the air nomads are like 3 hotel-sized buildings. The only nation that could really hold a candle to the earth kingdom is the fire nation. But that was really only because of their technology. Now the whole world has air ships and iron clads and the fire nation is on equal footing. This makes the earth queen the most powerful person in the world. And now she's dead. Killed by 4 vagabonds.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
August 10 2014 18:45 GMT
#4017
On August 11 2014 03:34 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 01:41 Koerage wrote:
On August 11 2014 00:48 Hyperbola wrote:
So all it takes to kill the most powerful monarch in the world is four benders? All it takes to start a revolution is killing their leader and saying "you're all free now :^)" Man the world of the Avatar series is a tiny, tiny place.


im not sure if the other nations are kingdoms, because i'd rate the earthkingdom after the fire and even waternation in terms of strenght - it might be the biggest, its also the worst controlled (imo)

Keep in mind that all of the free cities used to be just a small part of the earth kingdom. Ba sinsei is big enough to fit a good chunk of the fire islans into. The earth queen controls the largest empire in the world. The water nation is pretty much two small settlements in an icy wasteland and the air nomads are like 3 hotel-sized buildings. The only nation that could really hold a candle to the earth kingdom is the fire nation. But that was really only because of their technology. Now the whole world has air ships and iron clads and the fire nation is on equal footing. This makes the earth queen the most powerful person in the world. And now she's dead. Killed by 4 vagabonds.

I think the fire nation is still the most powerful one.

If you remember when Korra first went to Ba Sing Se, the earth queen mentioned how Zuko and Aang took territory from the Earth Kingdom and that she would not let the avatar take the small amount of territory she still had left. This and the seemingly autonomous Metal Clan suggest that the earth kingdom was already pretty weak.

Since it seems that Zuko had a lot of influence over the world when he was fire lord, I think the fire nation is still strongest.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
August 10 2014 18:48 GMT
#4018
On August 11 2014 03:34 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 01:41 Koerage wrote:
On August 11 2014 00:48 Hyperbola wrote:
So all it takes to kill the most powerful monarch in the world is four benders? All it takes to start a revolution is killing their leader and saying "you're all free now :^)" Man the world of the Avatar series is a tiny, tiny place.


im not sure if the other nations are kingdoms, because i'd rate the earthkingdom after the fire and even waternation in terms of strenght - it might be the biggest, its also the worst controlled (imo)

Keep in mind that all of the free cities used to be just a small part of the earth kingdom. Ba sinsei is big enough to fit a good chunk of the fire islans into. The earth queen controls the largest empire in the world. The water nation is pretty much two small settlements in an icy wasteland and the air nomads are like 3 hotel-sized buildings. The only nation that could really hold a candle to the earth kingdom is the fire nation. But that was really only because of their technology. Now the whole world has air ships and iron clads and the fire nation is on equal footing. This makes the earth queen the most powerful person in the world. And now she's dead. Killed by 4 vagabonds.


i disagree that being the leader of the biggest nation makes you the most powerful leader in the world - you need peoples support for that and i assume that in a nation as big as the earth kingdom not everyone would support her
but considering we have no info on that but that she WAS the queen and thus should've been a major character, she had very little protection and died as a result
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
August 10 2014 19:03 GMT
#4019
On August 10 2014 22:45 Fi0na wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 22:38 TanKLoveR wrote:
Question: What exactly is the Red Lotus' plan in this? They seem like really pointless anarchists so far "So yeah we want to kill all leaders and FREE THE PEOPLE!, I guess they'll see what they want to do after that, we don't care". I mean they apparently aren't interested in power/control, so they just want people to be free of government and that's it?. As what they want with Korra they probably just want to lock her up? maybe? if they kill her she'll just respawn as a new avatar so .


I think they want to lead her onto the path of righteousness and anarchy. Since she is supposed to be the guardian of balance in the world and the relationship between people in power and the small guys was clearly out of balance. They never really intended to kill her, just to turn her, so she could help in the revolution against all governments. Which would have been much easier if they had grabbed her when she was young.

I'm not yet sure though what the show actually aims at. Promoting democracy as a solution? Showing that governments, even though they might not be fair, are necessary?

Yeah I guess turning her for their cause would have been their only real course of action and obviously at this point would be hard to indoctrinate her or whatever into their way of thinking. I'm getting that about democracy and it got me thinking, Capital City has a president or governor whatever, was he chosen through an actual election? I don't remember them mentioning that or I just forgot, if he WAS chosen democratically wouldn't that count as people being free to choose whatever they want? why doesn't that count for the Red Lotus group? doesn't that make them look like douche bags who just don't like world leaders and want to stir shit up by killing them?.

I mean the whole idea of this group is kind of dumb, okay so they kill all the world leaders and then what? assuming they succeed, what is their role in the world after they kill Zuko and company, to wait around to kill the new leaders of the world when they eventually do come up because anarchy?. So weird.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 10 2014 19:35 GMT
#4020
On August 11 2014 00:48 Hyperbola wrote:
So all it takes to kill the most powerful monarch in the world is four benders? All it takes to start a revolution is killing their leader and saying "you're all free now :^)" Man the world of the Avatar series is a tiny, tiny place.


a bit weird, yeah, but she was being protected by a large number of Dai Li lol

four ordinary benders probably don't stand much of a chance, but yeah get 4 masters up to the throne room (or even two masters, one avatar, and one boomerang guy ) and the Earth Queen/King is probably toast
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