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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 22 2013 00:20 GMT
#3241
Voice actors are for the most part pretty terrible. I feel like it's the director's fault. Most of them are way too loud.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
September 22 2013 00:33 GMT
#3242
For me i dont really find the voice actors bad, i think they're okay, and for being loud in this ep well there was alot of tension in the air in almost all scenes. People trying to keep calm on the surface but being deeply frustrated underneath.

Im starting to have tiny bit of swaying feeling on if Unalaq is a good guy or a bad guy, and i know how people arent just one dimensional, but what im having trouble deciding is if hes really doing all of this to balance the tribes and has nothing to do with agonising the spirits OR that hes actually wants to be complete king of the water tribe(singular) and is going to achieve it by, first kicked out his brother from the heir line, hiring the bandits, then controlling/made a deal with some evil spirit (whos the actual main villain) to wreak havoc in the southern water tribe so he has an excuse to invade and claim its for restoration.

I also wonder if verrick actually planned that assassination (more like kidnapping) group, maybe its all planned by Unalaq so he can make them stand trial then with his planted men have them confessing korra's dad was part of it.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-22 01:15:12
September 22 2013 01:05 GMT
#3243
I like the plot, it's pretty interesting.

Although, again, it seems a bit rushed and "easy" I guess. I find it irritating that Korra doesn't at all see the bad in what Unalaq is doing, it makes her come off as dumb that she's not seeing his huge power grab. I mean, maybe it's just me, but she seems to remain rather oblivious to it all, especially after the ending of the second episode where she looks at the whole Northern Water Tribe army. Even more so when those soldiers pretty much act like bullies. I mean, their orders came from somewhere, it's not very hard to put two and two together. It's a kid's show, but even this is a little too obvious. Perhaps it's just the directing though... I mean, everything is laid out to make Unalaq look like some power grabbing tyrant, especially the scene where he sits on the ice throne, in a fairly dark room and goes "I'm their chief. I'm uniting, not invading". That's just a straight out villain line, which is why I think there is a huge plot twist incoming, so it could just be the premise of a good story.

Overall, I'm still convinced that it's a spirit doing the work behind Unalaq. Verrick seems very impulsive though, I'm wondering if he might be on Unalaq's payroll or something. He seems like the kind of guy who looks to thrive in his environment, no matter what that environment is. The end of the episode actually makes me think that even more, i.e Verrick was hired by Unalaq to stir people up and then sell out Tonraq.

I'm almost completely sure that the plot is going to flare up quite a bit and that we are looking at some interesting twists coming up. The first three episodes are pretty good, albeit with some shortcomings that are a little annoying in my opinion, but still well worth watching and following.
I like words.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-22 01:58:48
September 22 2013 01:57 GMT
#3244
On September 22 2013 09:33 Shock710 wrote:
For me i dont really find the voice actors bad, i think they're okay, and for being loud in this ep well there was alot of tension in the air in almost all scenes. People trying to keep calm on the surface but being deeply frustrated underneath.

Im starting to have tiny bit of swaying feeling on if Unalaq is a good guy or a bad guy, and i know how people arent just one dimensional, but what im having trouble deciding is if hes really doing all of this to balance the tribes and has nothing to do with agonising the spirits OR that hes actually wants to be complete king of the water tribe(singular) and is going to achieve it by, first kicked out his brother from the heir line, hiring the bandits, then controlling/made a deal with some evil spirit (whos the actual main villain) to wreak havoc in the southern water tribe so he has an excuse to invade and claim its for restoration.

I also wonder if verrick actually planned that assassination (more like kidnapping) group, maybe its all planned by Unalaq so he can make them stand trial then with his planted men have them confessing korra's dad was part of it.

Mostly I just Kya and Bumi are bad voice actors.

The beach was a far better episode than Secludedly. There was far better development.

Perhaps Zuko had the same "loud acting is good acting" mentality but the beach episode stuck with me. Mostly because of Azula. The music was far better in "The Beach". There was no music in the scene with Kya Bumi and Tenzin. That wasn't the tense part of the scene. Instead they tried to make the ending where Unalaq entered tense and that just felt like a cheap cliffhanger trick that every film student learns in film making 100. I hate it when they use cliffhangers in GoT or Attack on Titan. Maybe they're rushing episodes.

Right now I'm a bit confused as to why Ikki ran away.
She's a very good bender. I hope she's able to develop as a character though rather than just being Tenzin's child #2.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
September 22 2013 06:04 GMT
#3245
On September 22 2013 10:57 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 09:33 Shock710 wrote:
For me i dont really find the voice actors bad, i think they're okay, and for being loud in this ep well there was alot of tension in the air in almost all scenes. People trying to keep calm on the surface but being deeply frustrated underneath.

Im starting to have tiny bit of swaying feeling on if Unalaq is a good guy or a bad guy, and i know how people arent just one dimensional, but what im having trouble deciding is if hes really doing all of this to balance the tribes and has nothing to do with agonising the spirits OR that hes actually wants to be complete king of the water tribe(singular) and is going to achieve it by, first kicked out his brother from the heir line, hiring the bandits, then controlling/made a deal with some evil spirit (whos the actual main villain) to wreak havoc in the southern water tribe so he has an excuse to invade and claim its for restoration.

I also wonder if verrick actually planned that assassination (more like kidnapping) group, maybe its all planned by Unalaq so he can make them stand trial then with his planted men have them confessing korra's dad was part of it.

Mostly I just Kya and Bumi are bad voice actors.

The beach was a far better episode than Secludedly. There was far better development.

Perhaps Zuko had the same "loud acting is good acting" mentality but the beach episode stuck with me. Mostly because of Azula. The music was far better in "The Beach". There was no music in the scene with Kya Bumi and Tenzin. That wasn't the tense part of the scene. Instead they tried to make the ending where Unalaq entered tense and that just felt like a cheap cliffhanger trick that every film student learns in film making 100. I hate it when they use cliffhangers in GoT or Attack on Titan. Maybe they're rushing episodes.

Right now I'm a bit confused as to why Ikki ran away.
She's a very good bender. I hope she's able to develop as a character though rather than just being Tenzin's child #2.

Im not sure ikki ran away on her own accord, she was last scene interacting with the avatar statue wasnt see, maybe something happened.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
September 22 2013 06:16 GMT
#3246
On September 22 2013 15:04 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 10:57 obesechicken13 wrote:
On September 22 2013 09:33 Shock710 wrote:
For me i dont really find the voice actors bad, i think they're okay, and for being loud in this ep well there was alot of tension in the air in almost all scenes. People trying to keep calm on the surface but being deeply frustrated underneath.

Im starting to have tiny bit of swaying feeling on if Unalaq is a good guy or a bad guy, and i know how people arent just one dimensional, but what im having trouble deciding is if hes really doing all of this to balance the tribes and has nothing to do with agonising the spirits OR that hes actually wants to be complete king of the water tribe(singular) and is going to achieve it by, first kicked out his brother from the heir line, hiring the bandits, then controlling/made a deal with some evil spirit (whos the actual main villain) to wreak havoc in the southern water tribe so he has an excuse to invade and claim its for restoration.

I also wonder if verrick actually planned that assassination (more like kidnapping) group, maybe its all planned by Unalaq so he can make them stand trial then with his planted men have them confessing korra's dad was part of it.

Mostly I just Kya and Bumi are bad voice actors.

The beach was a far better episode than Secludedly. There was far better development.

Perhaps Zuko had the same "loud acting is good acting" mentality but the beach episode stuck with me. Mostly because of Azula. The music was far better in "The Beach". There was no music in the scene with Kya Bumi and Tenzin. That wasn't the tense part of the scene. Instead they tried to make the ending where Unalaq entered tense and that just felt like a cheap cliffhanger trick that every film student learns in film making 100. I hate it when they use cliffhangers in GoT or Attack on Titan. Maybe they're rushing episodes.

Right now I'm a bit confused as to why Ikki ran away.
She's a very good bender. I hope she's able to develop as a character though rather than just being Tenzin's child #2.

Im not sure ikki ran away on her own accord, she was last scene interacting with the avatar statue wasnt see, maybe something happened.

But that was Jinora :o
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
September 22 2013 06:32 GMT
#3247
On September 22 2013 15:16 Resisty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 15:04 Shock710 wrote:
On September 22 2013 10:57 obesechicken13 wrote:
On September 22 2013 09:33 Shock710 wrote:
For me i dont really find the voice actors bad, i think they're okay, and for being loud in this ep well there was alot of tension in the air in almost all scenes. People trying to keep calm on the surface but being deeply frustrated underneath.

Im starting to have tiny bit of swaying feeling on if Unalaq is a good guy or a bad guy, and i know how people arent just one dimensional, but what im having trouble deciding is if hes really doing all of this to balance the tribes and has nothing to do with agonising the spirits OR that hes actually wants to be complete king of the water tribe(singular) and is going to achieve it by, first kicked out his brother from the heir line, hiring the bandits, then controlling/made a deal with some evil spirit (whos the actual main villain) to wreak havoc in the southern water tribe so he has an excuse to invade and claim its for restoration.

I also wonder if verrick actually planned that assassination (more like kidnapping) group, maybe its all planned by Unalaq so he can make them stand trial then with his planted men have them confessing korra's dad was part of it.

Mostly I just Kya and Bumi are bad voice actors.

The beach was a far better episode than Secludedly. There was far better development.

Perhaps Zuko had the same "loud acting is good acting" mentality but the beach episode stuck with me. Mostly because of Azula. The music was far better in "The Beach". There was no music in the scene with Kya Bumi and Tenzin. That wasn't the tense part of the scene. Instead they tried to make the ending where Unalaq entered tense and that just felt like a cheap cliffhanger trick that every film student learns in film making 100. I hate it when they use cliffhangers in GoT or Attack on Titan. Maybe they're rushing episodes.

Right now I'm a bit confused as to why Ikki ran away.
She's a very good bender. I hope she's able to develop as a character though rather than just being Tenzin's child #2.

Im not sure ikki ran away on her own accord, she was last scene interacting with the avatar statue wasnt see, maybe something happened.

But that was Jinora :o
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

oh right XD nvm lol
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-22 07:25:22
September 22 2013 07:24 GMT
#3248
I have to say, korra's naivete just killed me in this episode. They're literally blockading the harbor and she just rolls with it! wth? I had to keep reminding myself that the two tribes are both supposed to be under unalaq's control so she might not even see it as technically possible for him to invade his own country, but even so, I have a really hard time buying her acceptance of this.

also the switch in animation styles is not going over well with me, the first season was so fluid I was just constantly blown away by the quality. book two hasn't been slacking off, exactly, in that category but I'm definitely not feeling the wow.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
September 23 2013 13:14 GMT
#3249
Korra's naivety is annoying me :<
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
September 23 2013 13:15 GMT
#3250
Korra has annoyed me since episode 1, so these responses do not surprise me.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
September 23 2013 13:25 GMT
#3251
Season one Korra was slightly rebellious but still listened to the advice of some people (Mako and Bolin for example) with a good moral compass.

Season two Korra is just rebelling against everything and is somehow siding with the blindingly obvious ~evil person~ of the first couple episodes.

Hopefully the ending of e3 shows that she's truly woken up.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14105 Posts
September 23 2013 17:13 GMT
#3252
I don't know if the guy is really evil after all. What hes trying to do is stop the spirit attacks on the southern water tribe which are clearly causing massive amounts of deaths and economic damage to the southern water tribe. Its kinda like the first book which was a legitimate revolution of the working class people against the elites who had bending and korra with the royalists clear violent crackdown on them.

Hes trying to solve the rampaging spirit problem and hes doing it.

I was hoping they go into more of a dark movie film grain style in the second book with korras attraction to darkness and the darkness of the southern pole.

it
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
September 23 2013 18:27 GMT
#3253
Earth, Water, Fire, Air, and a bunch of productive non-benders who actually contribute to society. Long ago, the five nations lived in harmony. Then, everything changed when the water nation attacked itself. Only, the Avatar, master of 3 and a half elements could stop them. But when the world needed her most she threw a tantrum and cried her eyes out, complaining about how life wasn't fair. But now we have a new supporting cast, a band of benders and misfits that will likely do all of the heavy lifting again. And I believe that they can save the world...
ooooooooh oooooooh woooooo oooooooooh
####
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
September 23 2013 18:31 GMT
#3254
On September 24 2013 03:27 Hyperbola wrote:
Earth, Water, Fire, Air, and a bunch of productive non-benders who actually contribute to society. Long ago, the five nations lived in harmony. Then, everything changed when the water nation attacked itself. Only, the Avatar, master of 3 and a half elements could stop them. But when the world needed her most she threw a tantrum and cried her eyes out, complaining about how life wasn't fair. But now we have a new supporting cast, a band of benders and misfits that will likely do all of the heavy lifting again. And I believe that they can save the world...
ooooooooh oooooooh woooooo oooooooooh


You win, sir.
I like words.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
September 23 2013 19:04 GMT
#3255
Wow people sure give Korra a lot of shit. Unalaq is setting himself to be a villain in this arc, but he is still the only one with a solution for dealing with the spirits attacking people. Blockading the harbor and occupying the southern tribe is definitely pushing the people of the southern water tribe to clamor for civil war, but dark spirits that are almost unbeatable would push any country to a state of crisis. If Korra went with Tenzin or did nothing with Tonraq how would that solve anything? Korra may be doing the wrong thing by siding with Unalaq but she is still trying to find a solution to this crisis when Tenzin and the others have no solutions. I'm guessing in theory Korra could meditate and ask Wan's advice, but that's something we as viewers know is important as it's doubtful any of the past several generations of Avatars had to deal with this threat.
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
September 23 2013 19:14 GMT
#3256
On September 24 2013 02:13 Sermokala wrote:
I don't know if the guy is really evil after all. What hes trying to do is stop the spirit attacks on the southern water tribe which are clearly causing massive amounts of deaths and economic damage to the southern water tribe. Its kinda like the first book which was a legitimate revolution of the working class people against the elites who had bending and korra with the royalists clear violent crackdown on them.

Hes trying to solve the rampaging spirit problem and hes doing it.

I was hoping they go into more of a dark movie film grain style in the second book with korras attraction to darkness and the darkness of the southern pole.

it

Maybe Korra and friends aren't the good guys?

Book 1, they put down a legitimate rebellion with pure brute force. So far in Book 2, they're siding with ruthless invaders.

I think this might just be the beginning of a multi-book plot arc in which Korra figures out her moral compass, kinda like Zuko in TLA. If that's the case, great, Zuko's arc was my personal favorite in TLA.
Who called in the fleet?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
September 23 2013 19:16 GMT
#3257
On September 24 2013 04:14 Millitron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 02:13 Sermokala wrote:
I don't know if the guy is really evil after all. What hes trying to do is stop the spirit attacks on the southern water tribe which are clearly causing massive amounts of deaths and economic damage to the southern water tribe. Its kinda like the first book which was a legitimate revolution of the working class people against the elites who had bending and korra with the royalists clear violent crackdown on them.

Hes trying to solve the rampaging spirit problem and hes doing it.

I was hoping they go into more of a dark movie film grain style in the second book with korras attraction to darkness and the darkness of the southern pole.

it

Maybe Korra and friends aren't the good guys?

Book 1, they put down a legitimate rebellion with pure brute force. So far in Book 2, they're siding with ruthless invaders.

I think this might just be the beginning of a multi-book plot arc in which Korra figures out her moral compass, kinda like Zuko in TLA. If that's the case, great, Zuko's arc was my personal favorite in TLA.

A legitimate cause who's method turns their movement into an insurgent terrorist group.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 24 2013 01:49 GMT
#3258
It would be pretty cool to have an evil avatar for a while.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
September 24 2013 02:24 GMT
#3259
On September 24 2013 03:27 Hyperbola wrote:
Earth, Water, Fire, Air, and a bunch of productive non-benders who actually contribute to society. Long ago, the five nations lived in harmony. Then, everything changed when the water nation attacked itself. Only, the Avatar, master of 3 and a half elements could stop them. But when the world needed her most she threw a tantrum and cried her eyes out, complaining about how life wasn't fair. But now we have a new supporting cast, a band of benders and misfits that will likely do all of the heavy lifting again. And I believe that they can save the world...
ooooooooh oooooooh woooooo oooooooooh


Best post in this entire thread.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
September 24 2013 02:26 GMT
#3260
On September 24 2013 04:04 BlackMagister wrote:
Wow people sure give Korra a lot of shit. Unalaq is setting himself to be a villain in this arc, but he is still the only one with a solution for dealing with the spirits attacking people. Blockading the harbor and occupying the southern tribe is definitely pushing the people of the southern water tribe to clamor for civil war, but dark spirits that are almost unbeatable would push any country to a state of crisis. If Korra went with Tenzin or did nothing with Tonraq how would that solve anything? Korra may be doing the wrong thing by siding with Unalaq but she is still trying to find a solution to this crisis when Tenzin and the others have no solutions. I'm guessing in theory Korra could meditate and ask Wan's advice, but that's something we as viewers know is important as it's doubtful any of the past several generations of Avatars had to deal with this threat.

Win!
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