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On September 16 2012 03:31 {ToT}ColmA wrote: gonna start midnight tides today, house of chains was pretty good, i am so glad that i stuck with the books and not quit after the first 100 pages of gardens of the moon
I liked Midnight Tides a lot, even though it was hard to get into because of the entire cast of new characters. I really enjoyed the Tiste Edur story arc, and Rhulad is one of the most interesting characters in the series.
On September 18 2012 15:57 Baffels wrote: How do the Ian Cameron Esslemont books compare with Eriksons work? Just got Crippled God and am wondering if I should pick these up for some more Malazan action after I get done with it.
Yeah, you should. His style is pretty similar. Also, you'll get to read about many of the characters and factions you've heard about in Erickson's books, and often wondered about. For example the Crimson Guard.
On September 18 2012 16:44 antelope591 wrote: Im on the 8th book and its getting kind of a chore to get through...worst of the series so far easily. Does it pick up again for the last 2? I think Erikson took a nap with this one first real dud of the series to me -_-
I thought Erickson's series tailed off towards the end. Books 9 and 10 were kind of a let down for me. The Crippled God was better than Dust of Dreams though, if its any consolation.
On September 18 2012 17:18 antelope591 wrote: My problem with this book so far is that my main issue with the series is more prominent than ever. Too many new random characters that I don't give a damn about. I mean am I seriously supposed to care about whats happening to all these characters in Darujhistan or Black Coral in the 8th book of a freakin series when theres tooons of other characters Id rather be reading about. Hell they shoulve made the whole book with only Traveller and Karsa and I wouldve been good
If you want more Traveler, make sure to read Esslemont's books. He covers him quite a bit. Also, I think they intend to do a whole trilogy on Karsa, which should be a blast.
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England2662 Posts
Can you guys just watch spoilers in here, little things are creeping in.
I've read up to book 6 so far and will definitely finish off the series when I've got less in my way. Been fantastic so far imo.
I still don't understand the problems people have with GotM. I thought it was an amazing book and is one of my favourites.
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It's not a problem with GotM, for me at least, I simply like a lot of the other books in the series more (especially Deadhouse Gates... loved that book so much). Me saying it's one of the weaker Malazan books still puts it above almost every other book available in my list =P Erikson's style just suits me.
Can't wait to get my hands on Forge of Darkness now that it's out in the US =D
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I really want to read this book... Might be a while, because I am reading the bitterbynde trilogy, then Wheels of Time, then I will read this. So that's like 16 books before I can read this.. Unless I flip between books after the trilogy I'm reading, read a book of WOT then a Malazan, back and forth. Reckon this is a series I can have gaps between books and won't be very harmful to my reading experience? Reason I was thinking of reading WOT first because I read the first book and it seemed very accessible, whilst I read a bit of the first book of Malazan, and it seemed less accessible but potential for epic epicness.
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WoT is certainly an easier read, but for me I had to put it down after going through about 3 books with the plot seemingly at a standstill. Jordan also had some quirks that eventually got to me (describing the same things in painful detail like 10 pages apart). That's all opinion, though, and I hope you find them a great read (a lot of other people have =D )
You could theoretically swap between books, but if your memory is like mine you'll miss a lot of the finer things. There's a large number of characters and plot arcs throughout the series which I would imagine would be a pain to keep track of if you're reading a whole other epic series.
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Netherlands19135 Posts
Loved every single Malazan book except Stonewielder, Dust of Dreams and the Crippled God . Those three were just "ok" for me and the whole book 10 arc/ending got really messy and overly complicated in an attempt at an epic conclusion. Plus I really hated the way the Na'ruk hints and background presence during the series got wrapped up. Toll the Hounds was slow but I really enjoyed the book alot and Midnight Tides took some getting into but when it gets going it really gets going.
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i am currently finishing midnight tides, started slow, as slow as moonsgarden imo but the character developement is awesome, first time i actually laughed reading the books cuz bugg and tehol are just awesome, i also like the whole edur problematic and trull is someone i actually like <:
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Netherlands19135 Posts
Orb Scepter Throne was OK I guess. Great storyline concepts but I.E. just fails terribly in capturing the magic and character of certain individuals and places. I never got any Daruhjistan (sp?) feel during the entire book. Not to mention that he tried to cram in way too much into one book. The entire Kiska storyline could have been removed from the book and nothing would have been lost. The Antsy storyline really needed more work which would have gotten the room it needed then. He should really stick to his own style and characters and stay the hell away from S.E.'s very memorable individuals such as Kruppe and certain Malazan prominents. (Travellers plot was so awsome but so poorly/minimally executed. I r disappoint.)
Have high hopes for Blood and Bone though seeing how it should mainly be I.E.'s / brand new stuff.
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first 100 pages of bonehunters and it feels like a different style, every other book so far seemed like getting slow into the action and this one is just keeping me at it from the get go, liking it so far hope it continues like that, could be my favourite so far even thou i liked every single book as of yet,
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This was an awesome series, I finished it up a few months ago and thoroughly enjoyed it. I did find it a little bit hard to get into the first book though. I also found that Erikson was a little bit weak on the initial character building phase of many of the characters. Sometimes it took quite a while to realize he was introducing a new key character (I use this term loosely because there were soooo many characters), and not just another minor character who would be killed off or forgotten by the end of the chapter. It was sometimes
My recommendation would be to give the book time, it does take a bit to get into it, but it truly is an epic story in the end. Definitely one of my all time favourites!
Cheers,
Ramone
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finished bonehunters last night, the ending felt kinda "rushed" but the book overall was superb. starting reapers gale now, hope....need to get the last books too now cuz i am reading too fast =(
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is there a power ranking tree of some sort floating around anywhere? updated with the final book? Would be fun to look at...
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I've finished the last book yesterday night. Going to re-read instantly, starting again at the first one .
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I am new the the series, having only read the first 4 before getting bogged down and stoping. However the audiobook for Gradens of the Moon was just released. This has reInvigorated my desire to read the series. And I can listen to it while at work! The audiobook is only like $15 so if you at all Interested in the series (and you should be) pick it up and see if you like it.
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On October 19 2012 07:04 solsken wrote: is there a power ranking tree of some sort floating around anywhere? updated with the final book? Would be fun to look at...
Check out the Malazan empire forums, they discuss topics like that all the time. And they are also forums dedicated to these books, so while I love team liquid they are a slightly better resource for these discussions. They have a load of art and such on their site as well, if it is a bit hard to navigate. http://forum.malazanempire.com/
Love to see that so many people are enjoying these books, they really are a special treat and an inspiration to myself as a wanna be writer and Anthro major.
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in the process of finishing toll the hounds, pretty good book, side story of nom and his crew is kinda boring but the whole andii stuff is awesome plus u cant ve enough kruppe
i am happy that scillara isnt getting what a lot of other female characters got (felisin (and the younger) and feather witch for example) sad stories to beginn with and going into hyperbole retardedness afterwards, always thought it was stupid..
kallor is pretty funny character even thou a wacko T_T;
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For a long time I was quite the hipster when it came to literature, having only read most of Tolkien's work. I didn't really appreciate the fantasy genre. After I had watched the first season of a Game of Thrones I quickly devoured all the books, which strangely enough left me with a craving for more.
I found out about this series through this thread and started reading, steadily making my way through the first four books. I liked the uniqueness of the books and the chaotic way the universe unfolds. For some reason though I couldn't motivate myself to finish the fifth book.
The fact that Midnight Tides feels like it is totally disjointed from the previous books makes it a hard book to get in to. Perhaps I should give it another go.
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if u read on and go past midnight tides it all will make sense, book 7 will make it clear, book 6 is pretty easy read as it is malazans again which u know from book 1-4
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On November 17 2012 04:39 2stra wrote: For a long time I was quite the hipster when it came to literature, having only read most of Tolkien's work. I didn't really appreciate the fantasy genre. After I had watched the first season of a Game of Thrones I quickly devoured all the books, which strangely enough left me with a craving for more.
I found out about this series through this thread and started reading, steadily making my way through the first four books. I liked the uniqueness of the books and the chaotic way the universe unfolds. For some reason though I couldn't motivate myself to finish the fifth book.
The fact that Midnight Tides feels like it is totally disjointed from the previous books makes it a hard book to get in to. Perhaps I should give it another go.
Midnight Tides is a hard read for a lot of people because you switch story arcs so drastically. Just keep in mind that it is still the same universe and you are just being exposed to a different aspect of it. If you can power through the first large chunk of it and treat it like you were reading GotM again then it should be an enjoyable read. Some of the characters you get exposed to and discover are some of the richest characters in the entire series.
If you enjoyed the first four then give it another shot, the best is yet to come in my opinion.
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I agree, i found Midnight Tides and the continuing story in the Kingdom of Lether one of the more enjoyable parts of the whole series, but it did take about half of book 4 to get into it.
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