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2stra
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands928 Posts
November 16 2012 20:15 GMT
#281
I figured it would make sense in the greater scheme of the saga but it kinda kills the tempo if you have to grow attached to a brand new set of characters i guess. It might as well be one of the charms of the series though. No instant gratification. I'll soldier on : )
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
November 16 2012 21:01 GMT
#282
The 5th book is actually my 2nd or 3rd favorite in the whole series. It throws you off at first but ends up being awesome and pretty much sets up the second half of the series. I'm on the crippled god now and I have to say Im not enjoying the last few books as much. Up to Toll of Hounds it was awesome but since then its been kinda meh...still decent but if these were the first 3 books instead of the last 3 I dunno of I would've made it to 10. Crippled God at least is a bit better so far
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
November 16 2012 21:04 GMT
#283
Wow the second book is so depressing reading through it. So fucking depressing (Coltaine's thread).

+ Show Spoiler +
But honestly I think that the whole Ammanas is Kellanved thread was revealed way too early and that it was fun for people to figure out (especially if you read the poems in GotM and figured it out). And then all of a sudden there's just a - "HEY GUYS! HE'S KELLANVED!"
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LatscherGnu
Profile Joined July 2011
28 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 21:16:51
November 16 2012 21:10 GMT
#284
Book 9 was the only book i had to fight to get through and it left me so worried and skeptical about book 10 and the ending of the series that the really mediocre (comparing to books 2-7) crippled god came as a relief and pleasant surprise
Xardean
Profile Joined May 2010
United States104 Posts
November 18 2012 04:13 GMT
#285
On November 17 2012 06:04 Qwyn wrote:
Wow the second book is so depressing reading through it. So fucking depressing (Coltaine's thread).

+ Show Spoiler +
But honestly I think that the whole Ammanas is Kellanved thread was revealed way too early and that it was fun for people to figure out (especially if you read the poems in GotM and figured it out). And then all of a sudden there's just a - "HEY GUYS! HE'S KELLANVED!"


When describing these books to people I usually mention that Erikson looooooooooooooves his tragedy. Reading A song of ice and fire wasn't that hard for me after reading through the Malazan series. Real tear jerkers are ahead of you my friend.
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
November 18 2012 05:04 GMT
#286
Just finished reading the bone hunters so excellent . :D
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Perkyviagra
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1 Post
November 18 2012 05:16 GMT
#287
I"m in the same boat as hox, got stuck on the first half of midnight tides. I'm going to start all over again as it's been two years now. Easily the best fantasy I've ever had the pleasure of reading, I would actually venture that its the best fiction I've read.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
November 18 2012 05:22 GMT
#288
On November 17 2012 04:30 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
in the process of finishing toll the hounds, pretty good book, side story of nom and his crew is kinda boring but the whole andii stuff is awesome plus u cant ve enough kruppe

i am happy that scillara isnt getting what a lot of other female characters got (felisin (and the younger) and feather witch for example) sad stories to beginn with and going into hyperbole retardedness afterwards, always thought it was stupid..

kallor is pretty funny character even thou a wacko T_T;


Kallor is probably one of my top five favorite characters in the whole malazan universe. I think I fell in love with him in the scene where + Show Spoiler +
Krul, Draconus and Nightchill find him on a throne in his realm of ashes. And he said he destroyed it just so they couldn't take it from him. I loved that part. And then they exchange all their terrible curses and what not


On November 17 2012 06:01 antelope591 wrote:
The 5th book is actually my 2nd or 3rd favorite in the whole series. It throws you off at first but ends up being awesome and pretty much sets up the second half of the series. I'm on the crippled god now and I have to say Im not enjoying the last few books as much. Up to Toll of Hounds it was awesome but since then its been kinda meh...still decent but if these were the first 3 books instead of the last 3 I dunno of I would've made it to 10. Crippled God at least is a bit better so far


I agree with you. Midnight tides is one of my favorites, and I felt like the series kind of tailed off at the end as well. I didn't really like the last two books as much. But i'm very tough on climaxes, and very few books or movies climax in a fulfilling way for me
=)=
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
November 20 2012 08:08 GMT
#289
I need some input. My brother wants to get started on this series while we're on thanksgiving break away from school. The problem is I left books 1-4 back at the university (where we both go), which is on the other side of the state. He wants to start reading now since he has all this free time during break. I was thinking I could either start him on Night of Knives or Midnight Tides. Night of Knives would make sense chronologically, but it would spoil some of the content revealed in Erickson's first few books. Honestly, at this point, I can't remember exactly what it would spoil and how big the spoilers are. I believe everything that happens in Knight of Knives is revealed at some point in Gardens of the Moon right? It's all so fuzzy in my head I have a hard time remember what information was revealed when... would it be a bad idea to have him read NoK before GotM?

Otherwise, starting with Midnight Tides couldn't be a bad idea either right? Since it's content is mostly unrelated to the first four books.
=)=
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
November 20 2012 17:30 GMT
#290
Only have one chapter left to finish Gardens of the Moon. The first ~200 pages or so you're just bombarded with information that is kinda confusing, but then it gets a lot better when things start getting clearer.

I'm really happy I started reading this series, the characters are all so intriguing and the style of writing is great too. Just the initial presentation is a bit off imo, but that was the author's intention I think.

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Xardean
Profile Joined May 2010
United States104 Posts
November 20 2012 18:40 GMT
#291
On November 20 2012 17:08 itkovian wrote:
I need some input. My brother wants to get started on this series while we're on thanksgiving break away from school. The problem is I left books 1-4 back at the university (where we both go), which is on the other side of the state. He wants to start reading now since he has all this free time during break. I was thinking I could either start him on Night of Knives or Midnight Tides. Night of Knives would make sense chronologically, but it would spoil some of the content revealed in Erickson's first few books. Honestly, at this point, I can't remember exactly what it would spoil and how big the spoilers are. I believe everything that happens in Knight of Knives is revealed at some point in Gardens of the Moon right? It's all so fuzzy in my head I have a hard time remember what information was revealed when... would it be a bad idea to have him read NoK before GotM?

Otherwise, starting with Midnight Tides couldn't be a bad idea either right? Since it's content is mostly unrelated to the first four books.


Hmm it might not be an issue, you do figure it all out pretty quickly, and some of the mystery and confusion of the first book might not be so hard. However...

+ Show Spoiler +
Remember the prologue of GotM? Where Cot and ST lay waste to that whole village and posses (in a way) Sorry? That was a huge mystery of the first book that you are trying to piece together throughout. it has been a long time since I read NoK and im really unsure how, if at all, that it would reveal the opening sequence of the series. Or for that matter if its even a bad thing


That being said I can't imagine that if he will like the books that introducing him to NoK would ruin the read for him. You might want to make clear though that the way NoK is laid out, the story structure and all that, is drastically different for the rest of the books.
I would caution against having him read Midnight tides first, its a hard enough read for people who have a grasp on the universe, and as much as GotM leaves things unanswered Erikson still throws the reader a bone every now and then. With midnight tides he would be going into it totally unprepared.
Is there a Barnes and Noble or other book store nearby where you could go pick up a fresh copy of GotM?
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
November 20 2012 19:17 GMT
#292
On November 21 2012 03:40 Xardean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 17:08 itkovian wrote:
I need some input. My brother wants to get started on this series while we're on thanksgiving break away from school. The problem is I left books 1-4 back at the university (where we both go), which is on the other side of the state. He wants to start reading now since he has all this free time during break. I was thinking I could either start him on Night of Knives or Midnight Tides. Night of Knives would make sense chronologically, but it would spoil some of the content revealed in Erickson's first few books. Honestly, at this point, I can't remember exactly what it would spoil and how big the spoilers are. I believe everything that happens in Knight of Knives is revealed at some point in Gardens of the Moon right? It's all so fuzzy in my head I have a hard time remember what information was revealed when... would it be a bad idea to have him read NoK before GotM?

Otherwise, starting with Midnight Tides couldn't be a bad idea either right? Since it's content is mostly unrelated to the first four books.


Hmm it might not be an issue, you do figure it all out pretty quickly, and some of the mystery and confusion of the first book might not be so hard. However...

+ Show Spoiler +
Remember the prologue of GotM? Where Cot and ST lay waste to that whole village and posses (in a way) Sorry? That was a huge mystery of the first book that you are trying to piece together throughout. it has been a long time since I read NoK and im really unsure how, if at all, that it would reveal the opening sequence of the series. Or for that matter if its even a bad thing


That being said I can't imagine that if he will like the books that introducing him to NoK would ruin the read for him. You might want to make clear though that the way NoK is laid out, the story structure and all that, is drastically different for the rest of the books.
I would caution against having him read Midnight tides first, its a hard enough read for people who have a grasp on the universe, and as much as GotM leaves things unanswered Erikson still throws the reader a bone every now and then. With midnight tides he would be going into it totally unprepared.
Is there a Barnes and Noble or other book store nearby where you could go pick up a fresh copy of GotM?


The nearest, which was in a mall in my town, has been vacated. So I'd have to drive a ways to get to one, haha. I think I'll try and have him read NoK. As you were saying, it might clear up some of the confusion in GotM, which would be nice since GotM can be really confusing upon first read.
=)=
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
December 01 2012 16:35 GMT
#293
finished toll the hounds, not gonna lie...i cried at some moment

+ Show Spoiler +
still feel that traveller didnt get the time he should ve gotten


started dust of dreams some hours ago and as far i cant see why this is called one of the "boring" books, i am having a blast, probably has to do with the fact that i am in love with the tehol / bugg characters which make me openly laugh while reading....and i never laugh T_T;

as i am probably gonna finish the crippled god by the end of the year do any of u have read forge of darkness? or the esslemont books in the malazan empire (return of the crimson guard etc) and can tell me if its worth it?
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 01 2012 16:48 GMT
#294
Yea Colma I'm with you. I thought all the books were interesting and Traveller makes me sad
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
December 01 2012 16:53 GMT
#295
who else loves Karsa Orlong, Theloman Toblakai Warrior of the Uryd Tribe?
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
December 01 2012 16:53 GMT
#296
Just started toll of hounds on my 2nd readthrough. I am still wondering what to read next after having finished my 10 malazan books.
LiamTheZerg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States523 Posts
December 01 2012 16:53 GMT
#297
@ToT, I just finished it a week or 2 ago too ;o Tehol/Bugg are the greatest characters i've ever read. After them, Iskaral Pust and Kruppe are my favs, then Paran. But the scene where iskaral pust and kruppe meet is one of the greatest literary moments of my life
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jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
December 01 2012 16:54 GMT
#298
On December 02 2012 01:53 LiamTheZerg wrote:
@ToT, I just finished it a week or 2 ago too ;o Tehol/Bugg are the greatest characters i've ever read. After them, Iskaral Pust and Kruppe are my favs, then Paran. But the scene where iskaral pust and kruppe meet is one of the greatest literary moments of my life



haha yes, tehol/bugg are hilarious.

Sindriss
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark263 Posts
December 01 2012 16:58 GMT
#299
On December 02 2012 01:35 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
finished toll the hounds, not gonna lie...i cried at some moment

+ Show Spoiler +
still feel that traveller didnt get the time he should ve gotten


started dust of dreams some hours ago and as far i cant see why this is called one of the "boring" books, i am having a blast, probably has to do with the fact that i am in love with the tehol / bugg characters which make me openly laugh while reading....and i never laugh T_T;

as i am probably gonna finish the crippled god by the end of the year do any of u have read forge of darkness? or the esslemont books in the malazan empire (return of the crimson guard etc) and can tell me if its worth it?


Yeah, I finished FoD. It is a slightly different style (intentional), and I actually really liked it, although some people are mumbling about it. It gives a huge amount of background history in the present day characters of the Tiste races and it is quite something.

Esslemont is as you probably know, a co-founder of the universe with SE. He has written good books, but it is not at SE level.
SevenShots
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany84 Posts
December 01 2012 17:04 GMT
#300
On December 02 2012 01:35 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
finished toll the hounds, not gonna lie...i cried at some moment

+ Show Spoiler +
still feel that traveller didnt get the time he should ve gotten


started dust of dreams some hours ago and as far i cant see why this is called one of the "boring" books, i am having a blast, probably has to do with the fact that i am in love with the tehol / bugg characters which make me openly laugh while reading....and i never laugh T_T;

as i am probably gonna finish the crippled god by the end of the year do any of u have read forge of darkness? or the esslemont books in the malazan empire (return of the crimson guard etc) and can tell me if its worth it?


Yea, the combination of tehol and bugg is just soooo awesome. Its just so amusing to read. I think i could enjoy
a full book of the two just vagabonding around. :D
Honestly I didn't mind the "slower" books. I loved to get some background information on a lot of the characters.



On December 02 2012 01:53 Teejing wrote:
Just started toll of hounds on my 2nd readthrough. I am still wondering what to read next after having finished my 10 malazan books.


Yes me too... anyone has a suggestion?


On December 02 2012 01:53 LiamTheZerg wrote:
@ToT, I just finished it a week or 2 ago too ;o Tehol/Bugg are the greatest characters i've ever read. After them, Iskaral Pust and Kruppe are my favs, then Paran. But the scene where iskaral pust and kruppe meet is one of the greatest literary moments of my life



The moment iskaral and kruppe meet is just so absurdly funny. =)
But my favorite character still is Kalam.

(Information what happens in books before the 9th could be inferred)
+ Show Spoiler +
I so honestly hope that he comes back in the last book. Nearly finished dust of dreams now.
Wouldn't kalam and quick ben make a great emperor + assassin duo? just like kellanved and dancer
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