EPTIt's not incredibly bad though especially because people mostly talk about the battle strategies, something Tyrion never really had to do in the past tbh.
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The_Red_Viper
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It's not incredibly bad though especially because people mostly talk about the battle strategies, something Tyrion never really had to do in the past tbh. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 29 2017 08:47 The_Red_Viper wrote: Well as i said, i don't necessarily agree with his statement either, but compared to KingsLanding days Tyrion lost a bit of his biggest strength: his intellect. It's not incredibly bad though especially because people mostly talk about the battle strategies, something Tyrion never really had to do in the past tbh. Tyrion also isn't great at war. I would argue that Jon is also a bad general. A good leader and manager of people, but bad at commanding troops in battle. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
On August 29 2017 09:06 Plansix wrote: Tyrion also isn't great at war. I would argue that Jon is also a bad general. A good leader and manager of people, but bad at commanding troops in battle. Tyrion DID organize the siege of KL. He's not that horrid at war. Or at least he wasn't. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 29 2017 10:37 Cricketer12 wrote: Tyrion DID organize the siege of KL. He's not that horrid at war. Or at least he wasn't. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. He and Jamie learned from the same person. I bet they beat each other at chess too. | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10800 Posts
UGH... Seriously, fuck this whole season (and the two before). | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On August 30 2017 12:08 Velr wrote: That Littlefinger "trial" was SOOOO stupid, retarded and dumb.If you want to kill him, just kill him, Aria is an assassin afetrall. Kinda like the Tyrion/Cersei scene that had like nothing of interest happening? She's pregnant? And being pregnant makes you extra treacherous? What? Hormones? What is happening? Bullshit? Yes, pure bullshit is happening. UGH... Seriously, fuck this whole season (and the two before). If they just assassinated him the knights of the Vale would have left or started a fight. There's a reason the "trial" was done in front of almost entirely people from the Vale, they needed to accuse him and show that he wasn't acting in the Vale's interests. Cersei is using her (fake) pregnancy to appeal to Jaime and Tyrion's family loyalty to get what she wants. | ||
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moktira
Ireland1545 Posts
On August 30 2017 13:30 Logo wrote: If they just assassinated him the knights of the Vale would have left or started a fight. There's a reason the "trial" was done in front of almost entirely people from the Vale, they needed to accuse him and show that he wasn't acting in the Vale's interests. Well I presume he meant assassinate Littlefinger and take his face so they still have control over the Vale. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2543 Posts
On August 30 2017 12:08 Velr wrote: That Littlefinger "trial" was SOOOO stupid, retarded and dumb.If you want to kill him, just kill him, Aria is an assassin afetrall. Kinda like the Tyrion/Cersei scene that had like nothing of interest happening? She's pregnant? And being pregnant makes you extra treacherous? What? Hormones? What is happening? Bullshit? Yes, pure bullshit is happening. UGH... Seriously, fuck this whole season (and the two before). It's TV writing to get the most "epic" moments, regardless of if they make sense or not. If there was any logic to the littlefinger scene then Sansa and Arya just randomly accusing him without any evidence and then executing him in front of all the Vale knights would have started a brawl. Royce doesn't like littlefinger, but Robin Arryn, the LORD of the vale adores him and basically delegates his responsibilities to him. Also, little finger straight up admitting in front of everyone that he murdered Lysa and then begging for his life was completely out of character. Littlefinger as we knew him died off when the showrunners ran out of book material, this "death" was simply the writers cleaning house. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
It's TV writing to get the most "epic" moments, regardless of if they make sense or not. But did they even accomplish that? Are these scenes actually "epic" / have impact on you? I said it in the other thread but i would almost bet that one will have trouble to find a lot of scenes which actually will me remembered fondly out of this season. Especially if we compare it to earlier seasons where imo there were tons of these scenes. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9241 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
On August 30 2017 23:28 Sent. wrote: They're "epic", just not for us. Ever watched those GoT reaction videos? I don't get these people but they're real. Those really confuse me, how is it that across the board people CRY when viserion die. Or cheer when LF died. Its crazy | ||
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brian
United States9629 Posts
you may not like it and may not think it's practical but to say it doesn't make sense is not true. i mean i didn't shout when LF died or anything but i definitely had a righteous fist pump. it's exciting. he's an awful person who had fucked every stark over at one point. fuuckkk himmmm | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
On August 30 2017 23:34 brian wrote: you can't just assassinate LF as much as everyone would enjoy seeing it. They're the Starks, honor and integrity are their most notable traits. Just as Jon refused to lie to Cersei the Stark daughters needed to give little finger his due. you may not like it and may not think it's practical but to say it doesn't make sense is not true. i mean i didn't shout when LF died or anything but i definitely had a righteous fist pump. it's exciting. he's an awful person who had fucked every stark over at one point. fuuckkk himmmm I'm just sad it didnt happen sooner. He's been completely lost for a couple of years now | ||
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brian
United States9629 Posts
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
On August 30 2017 23:59 brian wrote: speaking of, stupid question. did we already know LF is the sole beginning for this whole series? he poisoned Jon Arryn? this is still blowing my mind. then he also sent a raven saying it was the lannisters? then tried to kill bran? like what.the.fuck. Actually I don't think the JA point has been mentiones the show previously, but yes LF is behind all of it. The only show one that doesnt make sense is Bran. How would he know about that situation (him falling). We never heard of an LF bird in WF. | ||
KwarK
United States43188 Posts
On August 30 2017 23:59 brian wrote: speaking of, stupid question. did we already know LF is the sole beginning for this whole series? he poisoned Jon Arryn? this is still blowing my mind. then he also sent a raven saying it was the lannisters? then tried to kill bran? like what.the.fuck. He made Lysa do that shit but yeah. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
Surely the man who paid off the gold cloaks when betraying Ned would also pay off at least the lords of the vale to insure loyalty? It made little sense that Littlefinger wanted to plot against Arya in the first place. If anything he should have been plotting against Bran, who offered the only "evidence" at the trial which presumes that everyone there accepts everything Bran says as true now without question. But I'm still trying to figure out what Littlefinger's plan was? He made no effort to marry Sansa or consolidate his power in any way, and instead has lost power and influence steadily since leaving the Vale. In the context of the show having a trial made sense. What didn't make sense was the whole dog and pony show to make it look like Arya was the one being accused and everyone there accepting the outcome as if they had already pre-discussed what the out come was going to be since Sansa denied him his opportunity to defend himself. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
At his core, he always came off to be a petty man who wanted outsmart all the people that were more respected than him. And he did it, which is why it was no surprise that he assumed the stark kids would fall for the same tricks. | ||
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