EPTOn May 15 2015 22:40 Sent. wrote:
I think he gained Celibate trait after his wife died
I think he gained Celibate trait after his wife died
Shae might have something to say about that.
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
Shae might have something to say about that. | ||
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Coppermantis
United States845 Posts
On May 16 2015 11:10 RaiKageRyu wrote: Shae might have something to say about that. Not anymore, she doesn't. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
That has to be voluntary by D&D. Nice touch. Very GRRMesque foreshadowing. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9299 Posts
On May 16 2015 11:10 RaiKageRyu wrote: Shae might have something to say about that. Oh yeah I totally forgot about that lol. My memory refuses to accept that Tywin had sex with Shae. I want to believe they didn't and Varys staged everything in order to provoke Tyrion to do what he did. | ||
zatic
Zurich15365 Posts
On May 17 2015 07:04 Spaylz wrote: https://imgur.com/a/m5hhS That has to be voluntary by D&D. Nice touch. Very GRRMesque foreshadowing. That is really cool  | ||
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Emon_
3925 Posts
In the books this is alluded to a lot and the theory fits with the information given. Barristan tells Dany about her father and his love for Joanna Lannister both as a young man.. that he loved her more than his wife Rhyella. When Tywin wed Joanna Aerys made some inappropriate comments and did some things that we have yet to find out. A little while later Tywin resigned as the Hand of the king and returned to Casterly Rock. It would be nice if true... but we haven't had the slightest clue of this in the TV show. Tyrion doesn't have dragon dreams, hasn't fallen in a river of death and lived, and Ser Barristan is dead without telling Dany about her father and his love for Joanna. If Tyrion is a dragonrider, and a dragonrider needs to be Targaryen.. the show hasn't given any clues to this end. The back of the book A Dance with Dragons speaks only of Tyrion, Jon Snow and Danaerys.. the 3 heads of the dragon.. and their dance. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YnIWzKq.jpg) And a picture of Dany being awesome: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AwxYX5g.jpg) | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
and a dragonrider needs to be Targaryen This isn't true afaik. Anybody can theoretically ride a dragon and if the show changes Tyrion's parents (if the Targaryen thing is true, i doubt it though) it might be the best change they ever did. I hate this theory and hope it isn't true, there are only so much secret Targaryens i can stomach | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
Sure, after that you can think off some stuff in the books that could support it. But like any conspiracy theory it starts as something people want to believe in and then its easy to find arguments for it, even if they aren't that solid. | ||
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Emon_
3925 Posts
There are a lot of mentioning of Dragon Dreams, not prophetic dreams, just a dream with a dragon in it. They come from a lot of the Targaryens we have met. Also in Dunk & Egg there are a lot of passages about Dragon Dreams. Absolutely the only people that have them in any of the books are Targaryens. No one else does and that is a fact. This is what Wiki says about Dragon Dreams. ‘Dragon dreams affect those with the blood of the dragon, who are known to have premonition-like dream ability - they are no ordinary dreams. They often involve dragons but not always. Dragon dreams appear to have haunted those with the blood of the dragon throughout the generations; some more than others. The Targaryens had these dreams as well as the Blackfyres’.--Wiki about Dragon dreams --- If it turns out that Tyrion is a Targaryan (hypothetical), we should have seen some clues of it in the show (like the Jon Snow stuff) Or maybe they will first reveal Jon Snow and then work on revealing Tyrion? Dunno either way.. also seeing that Aegon is cut from the TV-show begs the question who the third rider could be | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9299 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
As for Tyrion=Secret Targaryen though... no, just no It's less likely than Benjen=Daario | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
So much of the Tyrion/Tywin relationship hinges on him being his legitimate son that this theory being true would undermine everything about both characters. I don't believe for a second that GRRM would do that. An adept comparison for Avatar fans is the fact that some fans theorized Ozai wasn't really Zuko's father. There is some material in the comics which can indeed be interpreted that way, but in the end, any way you look at it, Ozai not being Zuko's father destroys 80% of Zuko's character development. The same applies to Tyrion in regards to Tywin. | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
Tyrion, Dany and Jon are obviously the most prolific PoVs, with the most potential to have an impact on their world, with other little similarities like they each killed their mother in child birth and rose from starting out an underdog sibling from their original family unit. They flow together well so if there is a 'three heads of the dragon' thing coming along, then they seem to fit the bill. As the not-vita- enough-to-appear-in-the-show Aegon Mopatis becomes the ever more likely bet, there simply isn't much of anyone running against Tyrion for the third spot. Bran is an obligatory nominee, but for no reason other than "Dragon skinchanging?" I'd as soon say Stannis as anyone else, but I think he is a dead man walking. Besides, Melisandre thinks he is important so he can't be. The odd bit is that, for all his prominence, Tyrion plays the part of a supporting character rather than a proper lead like Jon or Dany. It is mostly reaction from him. The world pushes him around and he is mostly directionless. He doesn't usually drive anything. He does sometimes though, and most significantly he has done some later in Dance. Maybe he is just being the last one to ripen into leadership. Benjen=Daario=Euron are not worthy of serious discussion. I move to table it until after Arya gets back from training under Tobho Mott, Shiera 'Old Nan' Seastar confirms Jon's parentage, and Odysseus returns from Nilfgaard with Grendel's Mother on one arm holding Excalibur and the head of Glaurung held up in his other hand. | ||
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CheezDip
126 Posts
On May 17 2015 23:23 Emon_ wrote: If it turns out that Tyrion is a Targaryan (hypothetical), we should have seen some clues of it in the show (like the Jon Snow stuff) Or maybe they will first reveal Jon Snow and then work on revealing Tyrion? Dunno either way.. also seeing that Aegon is cut from the TV-show begs the question who the third rider could be Maybe Tyrion inventing a saddle for Bran to ride Hodor was foreshadowing his inventing a saddle to ride a dragon. I could see him enjoying burning Westeros to the ground at this point. | ||
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On May 18 2015 02:55 CheezDip wrote: Maybe Tyrion inventing a saddle for Bran to ride Hodor was foreshadowing his inventing a saddle to ride a dragon. I could see him enjoying burning Westeros to the ground at this point. This is exactly what SKC mentioned earlier. If you want to believe something, you can probably find some small insignificant detail that can be construed as evidence. + Show Spoiler + Your post has 2 sentences. It's alluring to the two remaining books. Your post has 6 capital letters. Sixth book will come out exactly one year from now. 2016-17-05 confirmed guys! + Show Spoiler + Your post has 33 words. Three three. Half Life 3 confirmed | ||
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ObeseHydra
Brazil196 Posts
And wtf Jaime and Bron? So much stealthiness... Sigh. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
Edit: It has also become clear that the Sansa change was a bad idea. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
- Sansa married to the Boltons destroys what was left of the Lannister-Bolton alliance - Olyvar works for Petyr, and just drove a pretty significant wedge between the Tyrells and Lannisters - He just legitimised a Vale-led invasion of the north, once Stannis/Roose annihilate each other - Regardless of the outcome in Winterfel, he seems well placed to legitimise his claim as warden of the north The only wrench in his plan is that Ramsay is fucked up (and apparently he has heard very little about him, perhaps suggesting he didn't anticipate Ramsay-Sansa to be as sour as it is going to be). I imagine this could sour his relationship with Sansa, but who knows. Chaos is a ladder, and each move is leaving Petyr better off. | ||
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Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
If that's the case, didn't help Sansa when she -ahem- consumed her marriage with Ramsey. What do you expect, Littlefingers agents saving Sansa from marital sex with her husband? It's just silly. | ||
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