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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 12 2013 22:42 GMT
#6261
On May 13 2013 07:29 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 06:13 Steveling wrote:
On May 13 2013 06:07 Dosey wrote:
On May 13 2013 06:02 Steveling wrote:
On May 13 2013 05:56 Dosey wrote:
On May 13 2013 05:40 Steveling wrote:
How did you guys react to the zombie making of characters like uncat?
Cause it killed it for me. I will only read the last books only out of curiosity now, honestly I think the books suck.

If you dislike the undead so much, perhaps you should have stopped reading after the prologue of GoT, no?


It's not like that dude rofl.
I mean about the cheap trick he used to bring back a dead character, cause he said in an intereview it was hard for him to kill cat/rob.
It totally killed the immersion for me, the writer can not do stuff like that.

Just because a character was difficult to kill does not mean they were PnJ'd into resurrection because they were difficult to kill. Berric was the first character brought back and we knew absolutely nothing about him. UnCat serves a purpose. He didn't just resurrect her on a whim.


Ofc he did, that's why he's grrm and not homer or dante.
He just needs uncat to finish some business(taking revenge for the whole stark family cause it's gonna be a long time before arya's time comes) and he couldn't find a better way to do it.

We clearly aren't reading the same book series.

Either that or you are just a troll.


I see you are not a fun of colloqui or you really think grrm is one of the finest writers our species has to offer.

My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15361 Posts
May 12 2013 23:39 GMT
#6262
On May 13 2013 02:19 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 02:13 zatic wrote:
The flaying of Theon is the best example. There were people "predicting" Theon will be flayed in season 2 ffs, and so far he has been tortured, but no flaying has been shown.

He did get his finger flayed, before he asked for it to be cut off.

It is never said that he is being flayed in the show, and it is also not shown. All you see is Ramsay cutting his finger with a knife, then the camera goes back to Theons face. Without advance knowledge you would not know that he is cutting the skin off Theons finger.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 12 2013 23:46 GMT
#6263
On May 13 2013 08:39 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 02:19 moopie wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:13 zatic wrote:
The flaying of Theon is the best example. There were people "predicting" Theon will be flayed in season 2 ffs, and so far he has been tortured, but no flaying has been shown.

He did get his finger flayed, before he asked for it to be cut off.

It is never said that he is being flayed in the show, and it is also not shown. All you see is Ramsay cutting his finger with a knife, then the camera goes back to Theons face. Without advance knowledge you would not know that he is cutting the skin off Theons finger.

They definitely showed more than just a cut, the entire underside of his finger was open in one shot.
It's your boy Guzma!
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15361 Posts
May 12 2013 23:58 GMT
#6264
On May 13 2013 08:46 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 08:39 zatic wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:19 moopie wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:13 zatic wrote:
The flaying of Theon is the best example. There were people "predicting" Theon will be flayed in season 2 ffs, and so far he has been tortured, but no flaying has been shown.

He did get his finger flayed, before he asked for it to be cut off.

It is never said that he is being flayed in the show, and it is also not shown. All you see is Ramsay cutting his finger with a knife, then the camera goes back to Theons face. Without advance knowledge you would not know that he is cutting the skin off Theons finger.

They definitely showed more than just a cut, the entire underside of his finger was open in one shot.

Well I just rewatched it and it is just a bloody mess. There is less than a seconds where you can see Ramsay grab the top part of the finger and pull it down. Before that he is just cutting into it.

Anyway without knowing about flaying how would you know immediately what is happening there. Or, to come back to my original post, how would you know what is happening there ONE YEAR AGO during season 2.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 13 2013 00:08 GMT
#6265
When anyone else was reading ADwD did they feel like George was just really really hungry for the first 200 or so pages? All the characters are starving, eating humans, etc.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 13 2013 01:09 GMT
#6266
On May 13 2013 09:08 Nevuk wrote:
When anyone else was reading ADwD did they feel like George was just really really hungry for the first 200 or so pages? All the characters are starving, eating humans, etc.

Eating humans was a reoccurring theme in ADwD. There are plenty of references to it, some more subtle and speculative then others. Too many to list but Bran, Skagosi, Freypie, Drogon, Stannis-men and many more.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 13 2013 01:19 GMT
#6267
On May 13 2013 08:58 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 08:46 Requizen wrote:
On May 13 2013 08:39 zatic wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:19 moopie wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:13 zatic wrote:
The flaying of Theon is the best example. There were people "predicting" Theon will be flayed in season 2 ffs, and so far he has been tortured, but no flaying has been shown.

He did get his finger flayed, before he asked for it to be cut off.

It is never said that he is being flayed in the show, and it is also not shown. All you see is Ramsay cutting his finger with a knife, then the camera goes back to Theons face. Without advance knowledge you would not know that he is cutting the skin off Theons finger.

They definitely showed more than just a cut, the entire underside of his finger was open in one shot.

Well I just rewatched it and it is just a bloody mess. There is less than a seconds where you can see Ramsay grab the top part of the finger and pull it down. Before that he is just cutting into it.

Anyway without knowing about flaying how would you know immediately what is happening there. Or, to come back to my original post, how would you know what is happening there ONE YEAR AGO during season 2.


Ive never seen anything close to resembling how gruesome that scene was (or is in my head, i suppose.)

I knew exactly what they were doing, peeling back the skin on his finger and leaving the bone.

Definitely able to identify they arent just cutting it off.
Useless wet fish.
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
May 13 2013 01:35 GMT
#6268
On May 13 2013 10:19 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 08:58 zatic wrote:
On May 13 2013 08:46 Requizen wrote:
On May 13 2013 08:39 zatic wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:19 moopie wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:13 zatic wrote:
The flaying of Theon is the best example. There were people "predicting" Theon will be flayed in season 2 ffs, and so far he has been tortured, but no flaying has been shown.

He did get his finger flayed, before he asked for it to be cut off.

It is never said that he is being flayed in the show, and it is also not shown. All you see is Ramsay cutting his finger with a knife, then the camera goes back to Theons face. Without advance knowledge you would not know that he is cutting the skin off Theons finger.

They definitely showed more than just a cut, the entire underside of his finger was open in one shot.

Well I just rewatched it and it is just a bloody mess. There is less than a seconds where you can see Ramsay grab the top part of the finger and pull it down. Before that he is just cutting into it.

Anyway without knowing about flaying how would you know immediately what is happening there. Or, to come back to my original post, how would you know what is happening there ONE YEAR AGO during season 2.


Ive never seen anything close to resembling how gruesome that scene was (or is in my head, i suppose.)

I knew exactly what they were doing, peeling back the skin on his finger and leaving the bone.

Definitely able to identify they arent just cutting it off.



its in your head I guess. I mean sure it was disgusting and hard to watch but we all have our ''troubling cinema moment''

for my exgf it was reservoir dogs when the guy gets his ear chopped off.
for me I guess there are a few but the log between the ankles in Misery is still a gruesome memory to this day, even if I know it isnt that realistic or that bad lol.

for my mother it was in the Exorcist movie in the scene where the girl does a full 360 with her head...
so yeah, to each his own gruesome scene.

The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
May 13 2013 01:58 GMT
#6269
I'm liking these changes. No idea where they're going with Talissa's pregnancy.

Oh and uh.. seeing as how GRRM wrote this episode, I guess we have a more definitive answer regarding Margery's maidenhood.
FaiL_SaFe
Profile Joined February 2011
United States104 Posts
May 13 2013 02:04 GMT
#6270
On May 13 2013 10:58 c0ldfusion wrote:
I'm liking these changes. No idea where they're going with Talissa's pregnancy.

Oh and uh.. seeing as how GRRM wrote this episode, I guess we have a more definitive answer regarding Margery's maidenhood.


This was GRRM's episode for the season? In that case I guess book readers may have gotten some major stuff spoiled this week.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
May 13 2013 02:05 GMT
#6271
On May 13 2013 10:58 c0ldfusion wrote:
I'm liking these changes. No idea where they're going with Talissa's pregnancy.

Oh and uh.. seeing as how GRRM wrote this episode, I guess we have a more definitive answer regarding Margery's maidenhood.


I think it means 100% that Talisa will die at the Red Wedding and that Jeyne won't become a more prominent character in the books.

It is what it is, but I don't think they can have her survive to have a child as that would be way too huge of a deviation from the books.
N1k0
Profile Joined June 2011
Uruguay1075 Posts
May 13 2013 02:08 GMT
#6272
So the rw is next episode, or the one after that?
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 02:11:32
May 13 2013 02:11 GMT
#6273
On May 13 2013 11:08 N1k0 wrote:
So the rw is next episode, or the one after that?


It's in two episodes.

On May 13 2013 11:04 FaiL_SaFe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 10:58 c0ldfusion wrote:
I'm liking these changes. No idea where they're going with Talissa's pregnancy.

Oh and uh.. seeing as how GRRM wrote this episode, I guess we have a more definitive answer regarding Margery's maidenhood.


This was GRRM's episode for the season? In that case I guess book readers may have gotten some major stuff spoiled this week.


There were a couple things that a couple of people are going to "predicting" what they mean that were said, I'm sure.

It was a fantastic episode though. That entire Margery/Sansa scene was just the most awkward thing ever.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 04:19:10
May 13 2013 02:33 GMT
#6274
I can't really say this in the other thread where it belongs because it is portrayed somewhat differently in the show than in the books, but Daenerys was definitely not raped by Drogo in the books on their honeymoon night.

It's made clear he asks her if she wants to do it and she gives a horny "yes" response after he's aroused her with massages. It's very clearly not rape from her PoV perspective in the book.

Anyways, I really liked all the plot and character development this episode. I'm just a bit sad about Stannis missing another episode, especially this one, because I feel like his character needed it the most at this point.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 02:36:34
May 13 2013 02:35 GMT
#6275
Also, am I the only one who noticed that this episode was just the king of foreshadows? People are saying this episode is boring and shit but it's necessary. It's all building up. Soon....

This is the episode GRRM wrote too so it's not surprising.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
May 13 2013 02:59 GMT
#6276
Hey guys, did they assassinate anyone's character this week?
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
May 13 2013 03:03 GMT
#6277
On May 13 2013 11:59 tshi wrote:
Hey guys, did they assassinate anyone's character this week?


Well they somehow managed to make Shae even more unlikeable.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
May 13 2013 03:11 GMT
#6278
On May 13 2013 10:19 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 08:58 zatic wrote:
On May 13 2013 08:46 Requizen wrote:
On May 13 2013 08:39 zatic wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:19 moopie wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:13 zatic wrote:
The flaying of Theon is the best example. There were people "predicting" Theon will be flayed in season 2 ffs, and so far he has been tortured, but no flaying has been shown.

He did get his finger flayed, before he asked for it to be cut off.

It is never said that he is being flayed in the show, and it is also not shown. All you see is Ramsay cutting his finger with a knife, then the camera goes back to Theons face. Without advance knowledge you would not know that he is cutting the skin off Theons finger.

They definitely showed more than just a cut, the entire underside of his finger was open in one shot.

Well I just rewatched it and it is just a bloody mess. There is less than a seconds where you can see Ramsay grab the top part of the finger and pull it down. Before that he is just cutting into it.

Anyway without knowing about flaying how would you know immediately what is happening there. Or, to come back to my original post, how would you know what is happening there ONE YEAR AGO during season 2.


Ive never seen anything close to resembling how gruesome that scene was (or is in my head, i suppose.)

I knew exactly what they were doing, peeling back the skin on his finger and leaving the bone.

Definitely able to identify they arent just cutting it off.


To me it wasn't clear they were flaying it though. There's a difference between taking off all the flesh and flaying as well.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 03:30:29
May 13 2013 03:30 GMT
#6279
On May 13 2013 12:03 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 11:59 tshi wrote:
Hey guys, did they assassinate anyone's character this week?


Well they somehow managed to make Shae even more unlikeable.

Seriously the most fucking annoying character ever. "Shae the funny whiny whore"
N1k0
Profile Joined June 2011
Uruguay1075 Posts
May 13 2013 03:46 GMT
#6280
On May 13 2013 11:35 Fruscainte wrote:
Also, am I the only one who noticed that this episode was just the king of foreshadows? People are saying this episode is boring and shit but it's necessary. It's all building up. Soon....

This is the episode GRRM wrote too so it's not surprising.

especially with the music of rains of castamere at the end
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