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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 08 2013 22:04 GMT
#6141
On May 09 2013 06:44 0x64 wrote:
Which would you prefer to have.
Joffrey torturing Ramsay, or Ramsay torturing Joffrey.

I think it's a no-brainer


Well the obvious answer is C: Arya murdering them both in their sleeps.

I wonder just how much of her list will actually be completed by her. She's only been directly responsible for 1 out of the 10(?) or so.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 08 2013 22:10 GMT
#6142
On May 09 2013 06:44 0x64 wrote:
Which would you prefer to have.
Joffrey torturing Ramsay, or Ramsay torturing Joffrey.

I think it's a no-brainer

Honestly I would not like either because I dont like torture.

Not saying that to appear super moral. Just for me personally it was always strange that people would like to see bad guys suffer, I totally dont tick like that.
Off-season = best season
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
May 08 2013 22:12 GMT
#6143
Does anyone have any good guesses as to how arya will return to the main storyline??
Best guess I have is that she is going to kill everyone in her nightly prayers, main one being cersei, but she's already fucked up as is, so I don't think that's what's going down...
Also, what's the point of her meeting Sam?
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
May 08 2013 22:47 GMT
#6144
Guys, stop confirming that people are correctly "guessing" the plot in the other thread. It just confirms to everyone that the majority of he guesses (Bolton bastard=torturer; Robb dying, Lady Olenna betraying the Lannisters) are true. We can all point out and shame people at the end of the season. Now, though, it's not at all productive and just makes things worse. Let the mods handle it.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 08 2013 22:58 GMT
#6145
On May 09 2013 07:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
Does anyone have any good guesses as to how arya will return to the main storyline??
Best guess I have is that she is going to kill everyone in her nightly prayers, main one being cersei, but she's already fucked up as is, so I don't think that's what's going down...
Also, what's the point of her meeting Sam?

Hm, my best guess is that the credo of the Faceless Men (discard your personality and devote to death, basically) collides with her strong personality, probably with her desire for revenge. Maybe she encounters someone or something related to her family (Rickon on his way back after being rescued from that cannibal island by Davos?) or she just gets kicked out (she already violated the rule of not killing without being ordered to do so by killing that deserter Night's Watch bard).
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kidleaderr
Profile Joined April 2013
365 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 23:08:12
May 08 2013 23:07 GMT
#6146
the walking dead is based on comics and people in that thread rarely post spoilers from the original source material nor do they nudge show watchers to the right conclusions. why should the TV show thread be any different? It's easy to spot whose read the books and to be honest if i was in the same room as the people discretely spoiling things i would kick them in the nuts and tell them for your balls are injured and full of terrors
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 08 2013 23:10 GMT
#6147
On May 09 2013 07:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
Does anyone have any good guesses as to how arya will return to the main storyline??
Best guess I have is that she is going to kill everyone in her nightly prayers, main one being cersei, but she's already fucked up as is, so I don't think that's what's going down...
Also, what's the point of her meeting Sam?

Arya won't kill Cersei. Cersei will be killed by either Tyrion or Jaime (most likely the latter).
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
May 08 2013 23:14 GMT
#6148
She's dreams through Nymeria, and Nymeria has her own giant wolf pack now in the Riverlands now I think? Haha, maybe she uses a wolf army and gets Stark revenge on the Freys.

On the other hand, Jaqen is still in the Citadel. They're a part of the same cult now, so maybe they'll meet up somewhere in Westeros and cause some chaos.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
May 09 2013 02:36 GMT
#6149
On May 09 2013 08:10 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 07:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
Does anyone have any good guesses as to how arya will return to the main storyline??
Best guess I have is that she is going to kill everyone in her nightly prayers, main one being cersei, but she's already fucked up as is, so I don't think that's what's going down...
Also, what's the point of her meeting Sam?

Arya won't kill Cersei. Cersei will be killed by either Tyrion or Jaime (most likely the latter).

If Jaime kills Cersei with Tommen's sword... Widow's Wail. D:
armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
May 09 2013 04:32 GMT
#6150
Things I have been thinking about:

1.) There are more climbers than Jon, Ygritte, Tormund, and Orell. If you watch the episode and pay attention during this scene, you can see people pulling each other up in the background.
http://i.imgur.com/6xFHYYm.jpg

2.) Arya's return. What if she is hired as a Faceless Man by the Iron Bank to kill Stannis or perhaps someone in the Red Keep (i.e. Tommen, where she would have the opportunity to kill Cersei).
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Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
May 09 2013 15:07 GMT
#6151
On May 09 2013 13:32 armada[sb] wrote:
Things I have been thinking about:

2.) Arya's return. What if she is hired as a Faceless Man by the Iron Bank to kill Stannis or perhaps someone in the Red Keep (i.e. Tommen, where she would have the opportunity to kill Cersei).


There really are so many stories being told in the books where I'm thinking "ok this is interesting and all, but when is it ever going to have any relevance to the core storyline of finding out who will win the war, who will gain the Iron Throne". I mean, look at how much time has been spent developing Daenerys' story, and she still has zero relevance to anyone in Westeros. I'm beginning to wonder if I'll be disappointed by the resolutions after so much buildup time.

I feel like Arya will certainly be hired to kill an important character (hired by whom, I have no idea). Probably one of the contenders for the throne. If it's Stannis my guess is she would simply succeed and it wouldn't be too interesting, so I bet it's not him. It would be interesting to see her return to King's Landing with Tommen as her target... would she hesitate to kill a innocent child? Even if it's a Lannister? Would she be distracted by Cersei or someone else?

Daenerys could be the target, in which case I'd think she might be caught and convinced to join their cause. But this is all speculation based on what I think might be predictable... and this series is pretty unpredictable.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10103 Posts
May 09 2013 15:16 GMT
#6152
On May 09 2013 08:14 Gentso wrote:
She's dreams through Nymeria, and Nymeria has her own giant wolf pack now in the Riverlands now I think? Haha, maybe she uses a wolf army and gets Stark revenge on the Freys.

On the other hand, Jaqen is still in the Citadel. They're a part of the same cult now, so maybe they'll meet up somewhere in Westeros and cause some chaos.


i was wondering if the reason Martin telling us about Nymeria still being alive with a pack is that something awesome is going to happen, maybe like the spirit of Robb/eddard warged in to one of those wolves or something like that..
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chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
May 09 2013 15:37 GMT
#6153
On May 09 2013 08:10 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 07:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
Does anyone have any good guesses as to how arya will return to the main storyline??
Best guess I have is that she is going to kill everyone in her nightly prayers, main one being cersei, but she's already fucked up as is, so I don't think that's what's going down...
Also, what's the point of her meeting Sam?

Arya won't kill Cersei. Cersei will be killed by either Tyrion or Jaime (most likely the latter).

Are you sure about that? Here is my theory about the prophecy posted in page 298 but people didn't show interest. Still I think it has some legit points:
The prophecy regarding Cercei's destiny stated that she would be choked to death by the valonqar, which means brother. Cercei thought that it referred to her brother Tyrion; people have even suspected the twist that it would be Jaime. I think it will be Stannis. The prophecy didn't stipulate that the killer must be HER brother. And if you link that part to the immediate precedent part: ... "Will the king and I have children?" she asked. Oh, aye. Six-and-ten for him, and three for you.", it will make sense that the Frog meant the valonqar as the King's brother- Stannis, who would deliver his justice to Cercei by choking her.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4602 Posts
May 09 2013 18:46 GMT
#6154
Cool visualization

http://www.jeromecukier.net/projects/agot/events.html

Could run better though
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 18:57:03
May 09 2013 18:56 GMT
#6155
^ I disagree with Mirri Maz Duur being categorized as an antagonist.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
May 09 2013 20:55 GMT
#6156
On May 09 2013 08:10 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 07:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
Does anyone have any good guesses as to how arya will return to the main storyline??
Best guess I have is that she is going to kill everyone in her nightly prayers, main one being cersei, but she's already fucked up as is, so I don't think that's what's going down...
Also, what's the point of her meeting Sam?

Arya won't kill Cersei. Cersei will be killed by either Tyrion or Jaime (most likely the latter).


But maybe if Arya puts on the face of a man then she could be a "brother" and thus fulfill the prophecy or whatevs.

My money is on her being hired to kill Jon somehow.

On May 10 2013 00:16 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 08:14 Gentso wrote:
She's dreams through Nymeria, and Nymeria has her own giant wolf pack now in the Riverlands now I think? Haha, maybe she uses a wolf army and gets Stark revenge on the Freys.

On the other hand, Jaqen is still in the Citadel. They're a part of the same cult now, so maybe they'll meet up somewhere in Westeros and cause some chaos.


i was wondering if the reason Martin telling us about Nymeria still being alive with a pack is that something awesome is going to happen, maybe like the spirit of Robb/eddard warged in to one of those wolves or something like that..


I think Robb is gone for good, since he and his direwolf were both beheaded. I wonder if Nymeria has some connection to Bloodraven or the children of the forest.
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
May 09 2013 21:26 GMT
#6157
Wow, I never thought about any connection between the direwolves and bloodraven. It's interesting because like Ned said, there aren't any direwolves south of the wall. Not only that, how does a direwolf get through the wall even if it'd want to? There aren't any other mentions of any other direwolves in the books I believe. Maybe he planted those six pups there so he can easily keep tabs on the Starks. It could happen, I'm of the camp that Bloodraven wargs commander Mormont's raven. They say he has a thousand eyes and one.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 09 2013 21:30 GMT
#6158
On May 09 2013 08:07 kidleaderr wrote:
the walking dead is based on comics and people in that thread rarely post spoilers from the original source material nor do they nudge show watchers to the right conclusions. why should the TV show thread be any different? It's easy to spot whose read the books and to be honest if i was in the same room as the people discretely spoiling things i would kick them in the nuts and tell them for your balls are injured and full of terrors

Well... let's be honest here. The writers for TWD deviate so far from the source material and are so bad at writing those deviations that it would be damn near impossible to spoil the TV show based on what happened in the comics.
Carras
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina860 Posts
May 09 2013 21:49 GMT
#6159
Im starting to suspect Rikon only purpouse of existense in the plot is to be the one to continue the Stark family line...
considering Robb is dead, Bran has more important things that getting someone pregnant going on and Jon is a bastard, and both Arya and Sansa are girls ofc..
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 09 2013 22:14 GMT
#6160
Jon was legitimized by robb (most likely).

But anyway, at one point GRRM was planning on having a 5 year gap between ASoS and AFfC. That would have given Rickon a chance to grow up a bit and be meaningful.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
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