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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Tiwo
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands306 Posts
May 10 2013 14:15 GMT
#6181
On May 10 2013 21:12 kafkaesque wrote:
Didn't he dispatch the ravens in the book, though?


He did, but in a rush and w/o a message, so empty ravens came back to Castle Black
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5857 Posts
May 10 2013 14:21 GMT
#6182
On May 10 2013 23:15 Tiwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 21:12 kafkaesque wrote:
Didn't he dispatch the ravens in the book, though?


He did, but in a rush and w/o a message, so empty ravens came back to Castle Black


Are you sure he sent them without a message? Didn't he have the message pre-written?
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
May 10 2013 14:23 GMT
#6183
I remember that chapter being a little confusing, maybe I should re-read it.

But I think there was some hiccough about the ravens...
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chillpenguin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States90 Posts
May 10 2013 16:14 GMT
#6184
On May 10 2013 23:21 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 23:15 Tiwo wrote:
On May 10 2013 21:12 kafkaesque wrote:
Didn't he dispatch the ravens in the book, though?


He did, but in a rush and w/o a message, so empty ravens came back to Castle Black


Are you sure he sent them without a message? Didn't he have the message pre-written?



I believe he did pre-write a bunch of messages for different situations, but in the rush to let the ravens go he didn't give the messages to the ravens.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11089 Posts
May 10 2013 16:17 GMT
#6185
On May 10 2013 12:41 LoLAdriankat wrote:
A lot of hate for him in the other thread. I think people wouldn't hate him so much if they didn't set him up to die in the season 2 finale. He got surrounded by wights and spotted by a Wight Walker and he got out fine while other people die for smaller mistakes (as that guy mentioned).


Kinda weak worthless bugger.

People hate weakness.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
May 10 2013 16:18 GMT
#6186
On May 10 2013 23:01 TheFish7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 22:37 Xinder wrote:
Can someone remind me who bloodraven is? I can't remember him from the books.


http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Brynden_Rivers

He is not really overtly mentioned, its one of those things you'd only pick up on if you read the books a couple times or spend time on the internet looking things up. The evidence points to him being the 3 eyed crow.

He's also in the Dunk and Egg books.
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
May 10 2013 16:28 GMT
#6187
On May 11 2013 01:18 MajuGarzett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 23:01 TheFish7 wrote:
On May 10 2013 22:37 Xinder wrote:
Can someone remind me who bloodraven is? I can't remember him from the books.


http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Brynden_Rivers

He is not really overtly mentioned, its one of those things you'd only pick up on if you read the books a couple times or spend time on the internet looking things up. The evidence points to him being the 3 eyed crow.

He's also in the Dunk and Egg books.


How many eyes does Bloodraven have?
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
Tiwo
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands306 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 17:33:55
May 10 2013 17:32 GMT
#6188
On May 11 2013 01:28 scudst0rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 01:18 MajuGarzett wrote:
On May 10 2013 23:01 TheFish7 wrote:
On May 10 2013 22:37 Xinder wrote:
Can someone remind me who bloodraven is? I can't remember him from the books.


http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Brynden_Rivers

He is not really overtly mentioned, its one of those things you'd only pick up on if you read the books a couple times or spend time on the internet looking things up. The evidence points to him being the 3 eyed crow.

He's also in the Dunk and Egg books.


How many eyes does Bloodraven have?


A thousand eyes, and one.

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/A_Thousand_Eyes,_and_One
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
May 12 2013 16:11 GMT
#6189
On May 11 2013 01:17 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 12:41 LoLAdriankat wrote:
A lot of hate for him in the other thread. I think people wouldn't hate him so much if they didn't set him up to die in the season 2 finale. He got surrounded by wights and spotted by a Wight Walker and he got out fine while other people die for smaller mistakes (as that guy mentioned).


Kinda weak worthless bugger.

People hate weakness.


I kinda like Sam.
Sure he is a coward, but he is a kind hearted person. He tries to help everyone he can, even after all he has been shown is cruelty. If any of you had grown up like him would you still be kind and helpful to others? Or would you be bitter and self centred.
Okay he is a bit of a weakling, yeah. And I am thoroughly impressed he was one of the survivors, but he is quite a central character to the plot. What really frustrated me was Arya and Sam meeting, and not knowing how closely they were linked through Jon. Infact, the whole Arya chapters frustrate me immensely. I was so angry when she went blind.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 12 2013 16:21 GMT
#6190
Lol, these people are spoiling the other thread so hardcore.
Bad times for a got series fan.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
May 12 2013 16:26 GMT
#6191
On May 13 2013 01:21 Steveling wrote:
Lol, these people are spoiling the other thread so hardcore.
Bad times for a got series fan.


The best part is they don't even know how right they are XD
<3
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
May 12 2013 16:28 GMT
#6192
I think this is why we should just not allow any speculation/predictions at all. people who know what's coming can pretend to speculate as to what will happen.
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 16:36:40
May 12 2013 16:36 GMT
#6193
I don't know. If you didn't allow people to speculate then they would get very bored of the conversation. People who have read the books and go in there disguising facts as predictions aren't even going to get a kick out of putting it out there because it will only be 'speculation' and their post will be forgotten by the time it happens in the series. I am all for speculation, so long as there is some creativity to it. For example speculate on what other things may happen - for example someone just posted how they think Robb will win the war. That sort of thing I really enjoy reading because it is like a whole alternative to the storyline.

Edit: This a is a pointless ramble. I should get more sleep.
<3
kidleaderr
Profile Joined April 2013
368 Posts
May 12 2013 16:37 GMT
#6194
the funniest part are the people who just registered on the site/posters with less than a 1000 posts suddenly making their first post in the thread. like really? we are suppose to believe that of all the got forums available online, you somehow land on teamliquid.net and decide to speculate (and guess right) about stuff in got. sheesh.
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
May 12 2013 16:41 GMT
#6195
On May 13 2013 01:37 kidleaderr wrote:
the funniest part are the people who just registered on the site/posters with less than a 1000 posts suddenly making their first post in the thread. like really? we are suppose to believe that of all the got forums available online, you somehow land on teamliquid.net and decide to speculate (and guess right) about stuff in got. sheesh.


You have 8 posts yourself?
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 16:44:50
May 12 2013 16:43 GMT
#6196
On May 13 2013 01:37 kidleaderr wrote:
the funniest part are the people who just registered on the site/posters with less than a 1000 posts suddenly making their first post in the thread. like really? we are suppose to believe that of all the got forums available online, you somehow land on teamliquid.net and decide to speculate (and guess right) about stuff in got. sheesh.


I hope you aren't talking about me :/ I used to regularly post on TL actually, I took a year and a half break and requested my previous account banned as I had no intention of returning. Changed my mind yesterday. Additionally, I didn't spoil ^_^

Edit: Hahahaha!
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KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
May 12 2013 16:46 GMT
#6197
On May 13 2013 01:39 Venom2 wrote:
I'm a bit worried about this Frey/Edmure wedding that's coming up, how do we know this old frey dude doesn't still hold a grudge with Rob for marrying Talisa? I hope Rob takes his army with him when he goes to attend the wedding, that way there won't be any trouble.



This post from the other thread really makes me think hes just passive-aggressively spoiling
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
May 12 2013 16:47 GMT
#6198
By now I think the issue isn't even people outright predicting all the correct plot twists because they read the books. It's people reading the books giving out way too many hints, either openly or by pretending to be a very clever show watcher.

Just take the whole Bolton's bastard issue: It's pretty much established that Theon's torturer is the Bolton bastard in the show thread, and they're right, of course. And yes, there are enough hints in the show alone to come to that conclusion. But immediately after people started wondering who that torturer is, people came to that thread and pointed out how Bolton's sigil is a guy on a cross, and how the Bolton's words are something to do with a flayed man, and how the Boltons always liked to torture their vicitms, and so on.

Ignoring the issue on whether House Bolton's words were ever mentioned on the show, or that the Bolton sigil is only shown in the background in the show (and never once directly associated with the Boltons), it just takes one guy pointing these things out to convince the genuine show watches of the fact that Theon's torturer is the Bolton bastard. And from that point on show watchers will treat this as fact and tell other show watchers that speculate about the guy's identity. All it takes is one smart post (either from a very clever show watcher, or a book reader with a very small penis) and the show watchers will start to spoil each other.

This is what happens with Robb: His death has been predicted so often now - at least in parts by people blatantly spoiling the books - that by now it's the established theory. And now that the show watchers have the theory, they can look at the hints that they otherwise would have overlooked. And all the hints show that the theory appears to be correct, so they continue to speculate on that basis.

It doesn't even take blatant spoilers for that kind of result. Book readers know what hints to look at in the show ("Look, that's the Bolton's sigil, right? Looks just like Theon on his cross!"), all they have to do is to point at those hints in the other thread to nudge show watches in the right direction.

So, yeah, I think forbidding any kind of speculation (or making people put it into spoilers) would be a good thing.
kidleaderr
Profile Joined April 2013
368 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 16:56:09
May 12 2013 16:48 GMT
#6199
On May 13 2013 01:41 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 01:37 kidleaderr wrote:
the funniest part are the people who just registered on the site/posters with less than a 1000 posts suddenly making their first post in the thread. like really? we are suppose to believe that of all the got forums available online, you somehow land on teamliquid.net and decide to speculate (and guess right) about stuff in got. sheesh.


You have 8 posts yourself?


i've never posted in the got thread derp. and even if i did i wouldn't speculate on things.

On May 13 2013 01:43 DragonLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 01:37 kidleaderr wrote:
the funniest part are the people who just registered on the site/posters with less than a 1000 posts suddenly making their first post in the thread. like really? we are suppose to believe that of all the got forums available online, you somehow land on teamliquid.net and decide to speculate (and guess right) about stuff in got. sheesh.


I hope you aren't talking about me :/ I used to regularly post on TL actually, I took a year and a half break and requested my previous account banned as I had no intention of returning. Changed my mind yesterday. Additionally, I didn't spoil ^_^

Edit: Hahahaha!


it wasn't directed at you as i dont think you spoiled or speculated on stuff that were going to happen. plus the fact that your posting in this thread means your good
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
May 12 2013 16:56 GMT
#6200
Yeah, so ridiculous with all the twenty to thirty posts accounts... -_- I told a friend to better not go there anymore.
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