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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
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JazzNL
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tofucake
Hyrule19178 Posts
On March 11 2013 23:05 JazzNL wrote: Horrible episode, literally nothing happening. That's because you're expecting Resident Evil. | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
On March 11 2013 23:05 JazzNL wrote: Horrible episode, literally nothing happening. Dude, lots happened. This episode is just leading up to the grand finale, cool your jets they have to add context to their story line. The final 2 shows will be all action so you should enjoy that. | ||
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Krohm
Canada1857 Posts
On March 11 2013 23:39 tofucake wrote: That's because you're expecting Resident Evil. I can't wait until Rick finds out he's genetically engineered and living in a virtual reality. Anyway not much really happened during the episode but I wouldn't really call it bad. Dialogue was fairly decent. I especially liked the talk that Daryl and Martinez had and that bit of mutual respect they both gained for each other, but how they're both bound by loyalty, when things finally turn sour. | ||
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TheExile19
513 Posts
On March 11 2013 23:43 Shelke14 wrote: Dude, lots happened. This episode is just leading up to the grand finale, cool your jets they have to add context to their story line. The final 2 shows will be all action so you should enjoy that. only one thing happened with the main plot last episode, which was that the two leaders met and exchanged pretty predictable responses to each other: rick glowers and sulks, and the governor talks endless bullshit and then leaves as we know full well he meant none of it because he tells us so. I have no idea why he'd be saddled with deflating his own tension, in playing against his batshit crazy character, by immediately winking to his henchmen back in woodbury, but there we are. I mean, if this is really going to be his character, crazy and scheming all at the same time, he could at least wait an episode or two to make us think this meeting accomplished anything in the narrative. pretty good character pairings all around with daryl/martinez, milton/herschel and glenn/maggie (meryl was somewhat of a bore this episode, sadly), but those little interactions are basically filler. | ||
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kukarachaa
United States284 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19178 Posts
On March 12 2013 02:27 kukarachaa wrote: I feel like I am watching a soap opera with zombies in the backround. That's what it is. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On March 12 2013 02:27 kukarachaa wrote: I feel like I am watching a soap opera with zombies in the backround. lol, that's exactly what this is... it's always been that way.. MIND=BLOWN? | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On March 12 2013 02:23 TheExile19 wrote: only one thing happened with the main plot last episode, which was that the two leaders met and exchanged pretty predictable responses to each other: rick glowers and sulks, and the governor talks endless bullshit and then leaves as we know full well he meant none of it because he tells us so. I have no idea why he'd be saddled with deflating his own tension, in playing against his batshit crazy character, by immediately winking to his henchmen back in woodbury, but there we are. I mean, if this is really going to be his character, crazy and scheming all at the same time, he could at least wait an episode or two to make us think this meeting accomplished anything in the narrative. pretty good character pairings all around with daryl/martinez, milton/herschel and glenn/maggie (meryl was somewhat of a bore this episode, sadly), but those little interactions are basically filler. I found it funny Meryl tried to kill Glen (yet again), and they just let him walk around like it was nothing after. Also was annoyed that Glen "got busy" when he was supposed to be on watch -__- | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
On March 11 2013 22:33 Gosi wrote: Nice build up episode. The next one will hopefully be really good. Im expecting the big clash for the season finale. | ||
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Appendix
Sweden979 Posts
On March 12 2013 03:10 Kazeyonoma wrote: lol, that's exactly what this is... it's always been that way.. MIND=BLOWN? No. I think the proper way to put it is that it feels like watching a soap opera where sometimes zombielooking people make cameos so we dont forget they are supposed to be in an apocalypse. In season 1 and 2 you had a soap opera with an still ever present ominous atmosphere. Apart from the small window of hope which was the previous episode, season 3 has been stripped of any form of latent threat or tension from horror elements, leaving us with pure soap opera with writing comparable to days of our lives. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On March 12 2013 06:01 Appendix wrote: No. I think the proper way to put it is that it feels like watching a soap opera where sometimes zombielooking people make cameos so we dont forget they are supposed to be in an apocalypse. In season 1 and 2 you had a soap opera with an still ever present ominous atmosphere. Apart from the small window of hope which was the last episode, season 3 has been stripped of any form of latent threat or tension from horror elements, leaving us with pure soap opera with writing comparable to days of our lives. What? There's no way that season 2 had a more "ever present ominous atmosphere" than most of season 3. Just look at the first few episodes of the prison clearing. It seems that you're just upset that there are human adversaries now. Zombies as an opponent get boring. As cool as it is to watch Darryl and Rick run around beheading the living dead for half an hour, once they got in the prison there's no way zombies would have continued to be a threat. Even without the prison, eventually zombies would get boring as an "antagonist". Humans always have the capacity to be more cunning, evil, and interesting. | ||
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Appendix
Sweden979 Posts
On March 12 2013 06:07 Requizen wrote: What? There's no way that season 2 had a more "ever present ominous atmosphere" than most of season 3. Just look at the first few episodes of the prison clearing. It seems that you're just upset that there are human adversaries now. Zombies as an opponent get boring. As cool as it is to watch Darryl and Rick run around beheading the living dead for half an hour, once they got in the prison there's no way zombies would have continued to be a threat. Even without the prison, eventually zombies would get boring as an "antagonist". Humans always have the capacity to be more cunning, evil, and interesting. Yet they fail to make the humans more cunning, evil and interesting. I can't care less if it's zombies or humans they're fighting, and if it's incoherent and not presented well it matters even less. | ||
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TheExile19
513 Posts
On March 12 2013 06:01 Appendix wrote: No. I think the proper way to put it is that it feels like watching a soap opera where sometimes zombielooking people make cameos so we dont forget they are supposed to be in an apocalypse. In season 1 and 2 you had a soap opera with an still ever present ominous atmosphere. Apart from the small window of hope which was the previous episode, season 3 has been stripped of any form of latent threat or tension from horror elements, leaving us with pure soap opera with writing comparable to days of our lives. at this point in the show and especially given the main plot of this season, the horror should be derived from the baser instincts of man, the abuse of in-group power and how, as many people would obnoxiously yet factually point out, the real horror in the zombie apocalypse is other people (we are the walking dead!). the problem is that the show's dialogue and focus on groups of people, rather than the occasional episode just dedicated to one or two characters, makes it just too wide-lens for that to work. there really is no coherent theme to be found, not because it's impossible to write a tight, engaging and bleak episode like the beginning of season 1 and the morgan episode but because the constraints of the plot mean you can almost never ignore 5-10 characters for a whole episode. the morgan episode made almost no sense when tied back to the episodes before it or when considering those other characters, but it was so refreshing in a vacuum, eh? since nobody in the show has the agency or the gravity to really portray that ennui, that deep sense of pointlessness and the slow erosion of the human spirit other than rick and the governor, let's mention them and why they don't serve this purpose: - rick is moored down by his family and his sense of justice. he can't really break because of his character values, his place in the group and the role he's come to play in the narrative. no luck there. - the governor should have done this job, it's the point of having a ruthless despot character who doesn't give a fuck but ultimately his proximity to andrea, the unrealistically stupid population of woodbury and his flip-flopping between emotional states/ways of dealing with the world (is he totally insane? does he want to kill rick just because? is he after michonne for pure revenge or to demonstrate his power over rick or to corrupt rick?) wrecks the character for me. I know a few people will say that ambiguity isn't a problem, that I'm not giving enough credit but honestly we've been with him for ~9 episodes and I still don't know his true motivations. if the writers don't care about clearly defining him as a realistic human character and not a plot motivation or a faceless obstacle, then I'm not going to care on an emotional level, and that's basically the story of this season for me. | ||
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TheExile19
513 Posts
the uncertainty of randall, ascribing that sense of otherness to him even though he has undefined power - is he a threat? can we integrate him into our group? should we? - is so much cooler to me than the governor. the governor wants to get you for some unclear reason, but that clarity of maliciousness makes it into a good guy vs. bad guy dichotomy, helped out by the way the show frames rick as a polar opposite. I swear to god I'm not going to do any more of these today, I can feel the glares already. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
they built up the tension and they laid the seeds of the governors demise. Now that Milton knows for sure that the governors an ass and that in fact, the dudes from the prison are pretty cool, I think hes gonna die in the season finale helping Rick & pals or crossing the governor or something. found it weird that they really put the accent on the gun duct taped to the table in the barn and then nothing happens with it... maybe next week the Governor will rip it off and shit will hit the fan :D | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
It's not the lack of action. It's just that dialogues in this series has never been its strong point and when it's dialogues that achieve nothing to the story..... They could make Rick and co fight zombies the whole episode, if it doesn't progress the plot I would still say nothing happened. The first half of the season really felt great but lately I feel its starting to become less interesting. Anyway that's just my opinion. | ||
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Yenticha
257 Posts
This makes me really miss Breaking bad, the Wire.. Even Mad Men feels fast paced in comparison. Am I really the only one feeling the last 6 or 7 episodes have been fillers? | ||
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albis
United States652 Posts
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