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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
September 30 2009 05:07 GMT
#441
On September 30 2009 13:58 Assymptotic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 13:41 JohnColtrane wrote:
On September 30 2009 07:26 LordWeird wrote:
Everybody needs to stop arguing genre. It's been done for centuries now and nobody will ever fucking agree.

There is good metalcore and bad metalcore
There is good <insert other metal genre> and bad <same metal genre as mentioned before>.

It will always be this way. Sure, most metalcore sucks because it's basically just churned out for the sake of scary looking T-Shirts but in the end who really gives a shit?


edit: If you ask me, before anybody posts a band in this thread they should check metal archives to see if the band is there. If it's not- it's not metal.


why do you think that some other people's opinions on what is or isnt metal is somehow better than ours? its not like metal archives give any real reasons or musical evidence for why they include shit anyway


Metal has always been a clannish subculture. It was before I got into it, it is right now, and it probably will continue to be in the future. Hell, if you listen to metal you probably have a bit of it in you.
With that in mind, a clannish group will inevitably have a mentality of what does or does not belong. The people who decide what does or does not belong are often those who established precedent, are veterans and founders of the community, etc. Sounds a lot like TL doesn't it?

Is it true non-metal music has integrated into metal and is accepted? Yes. (see folk metal, prog-metal, etc.)
Is it true that non-metal music has tried integrating with metal and is rejected? Yes. See nu-metal, metalcore, etc.
Yes, it is kind of unfair, but that's just the way things roll.
But think of this: Cynic wasn't accepted by the entire death metal community when they released Focus in 1993, but these days, they're heralded as one of the greatest bands metal has to offer. Perhaps in time metalcore may be accepted, but as of now, expect resistance.



but this is true for lots of styles of music. pretty much everytime a new 'genre' of jazz arrived, the original jazz clan got out their pitch forks and shout to everyone who will listen about how 'un-jazz', 'pop' & 'commerical' it was. Which i find pretty funny, because it was the reverse situation when jazz parted from big band swing.

i think one of the reason why bands like cynic get accepted and metalcore bands are rejected is because of commercial success of -core genres. Yes i know this probably isnt the main reason, but i feel like fans generally think that the less successful a band is with a new genre or genre fusion is, the less likely their artistic integrity has been compromised. but i guess its moreso that metalcore is an inherently boring genre (adopting a genre as simple as punk doesnt cant really be fresh for very long)
HEY MEYT
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-30 06:29:15
September 30 2009 06:25 GMT
#442
cynic isn't regarded as one of the best metal bands of all time the fuck are you smoking

oh and commercial success is a huge factor for idiots to determine how metal a band is
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
September 30 2009 06:31 GMT
#443
How do you determine what is metal or not fragkrag?
HEY MEYT
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
September 30 2009 06:34 GMT
#444
whatever I deem metal is metal to me.

that's how it works for every metalhead anyways.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
September 30 2009 06:36 GMT
#445
are you serious

then why do you bother arguing what is metal and what is not to other people? do you expect them to have the exact same opinions? =/
HEY MEYT
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
September 30 2009 06:37 GMT
#446
my opinion is always right
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
September 30 2009 06:38 GMT
#447
if you are trying to imply that there is reasoning involved, go elsewhere
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
September 30 2009 06:40 GMT
#448
ok fine, if you wont be serious ill drop it
HEY MEYT
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-30 20:59:14
September 30 2009 14:37 GMT
#449
If FragKrag says it's metal, there is a 99.9999999% chance it is metal. If he says it's not, there is about 99.999999999999999999999999999% chance it's not.

On September 30 2009 12:24 Assymptotic wrote:
I didn't notice it earlier, but are you named after the band "The Lord Weird Slough Feg"?
They are quite good.


Yes I am. Not many people make the connection though, since the band is just "Slough Feg" now.

edit: my favorite song by them

Chains none
_Grazze_
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
834 Posts
September 30 2009 14:59 GMT
#450
Black Sabbath will always be the best band ever!
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Iron Maiden
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Megadeth
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Then i like some Black/Death too:

Watain:
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Nifelheim
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Immortal
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Bands such as; Entombed, Judas Priest, Kiss, Turbonegro, Metallica ,The Hellacopters and Led Zeppelin are also great! There's so many, can't name 'em all!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
September 30 2009 15:23 GMT
#451
i like you grazze
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
September 30 2009 15:37 GMT
#452
On September 30 2009 15:38 FragKrag wrote:
if you are trying to imply that there is reasoning involved, go elsewhere


Frag laying down the law~!
TranslatorBaa!
awsum
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden54 Posts
September 30 2009 16:52 GMT
#453
Nile's new album Those Whom The Gods Detest has leaked and is fucking amazing!
"Killing Gnatsies"
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-30 19:26:04
September 30 2009 19:25 GMT
#454
On October 01 2009 01:52 awsum wrote:
Nile's new album Those Whom The Gods Detest has leaked and is fucking amazing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe8xCnIJU3s


I'm not sure that's exactly legal. Basically you are posting illegal content in the form of leaked songs on the forums.


Besides the video is not available anymore due to legal reasons.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
September 30 2009 19:54 GMT
#455
MAN I love Nile. All of their albums sound like one huge fucking epic song. It's great.
Chains none
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
September 30 2009 20:38 GMT
#456
Hey Frag, is The Used metal?
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
September 30 2009 20:43 GMT
#457
Their old stuff is definitely blackened melodic post-grind apocalyptic jazzcore.
Chains none
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
September 30 2009 20:46 GMT
#458
I thought they were just sarcastic-core.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-30 21:01:26
September 30 2009 20:59 GMT
#459
The used is definately not metal


And lol @ genres

according to Wikipedia The Used is:

Post-hardcore[1]
Screamo[2][3]
Emo[4]
Alternative metal[
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 30 2009 21:09 GMT
#460
I really like Crow's Claw. Does anyone know similiar Doujin metal bands?

Also umm I really have problems finding good Power or Progressive metal. When done well it's really good, but I just haven't found any good songs in like forever..
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