EPTOn September 30 2009 13:58 Assymptotic wrote:
Metal has always been a clannish subculture. It was before I got into it, it is right now, and it probably will continue to be in the future. Hell, if you listen to metal you probably have a bit of it in you.
With that in mind, a clannish group will inevitably have a mentality of what does or does not belong. The people who decide what does or does not belong are often those who established precedent, are veterans and founders of the community, etc. Sounds a lot like TL doesn't it?
Is it true non-metal music has integrated into metal and is accepted? Yes. (see folk metal, prog-metal, etc.)
Is it true that non-metal music has tried integrating with metal and is rejected? Yes. See nu-metal, metalcore, etc.
Yes, it is kind of unfair, but that's just the way things roll.
But think of this: Cynic wasn't accepted by the entire death metal community when they released Focus in 1993, but these days, they're heralded as one of the greatest bands metal has to offer. Perhaps in time metalcore may be accepted, but as of now, expect resistance.
Metal has always been a clannish subculture. It was before I got into it, it is right now, and it probably will continue to be in the future. Hell, if you listen to metal you probably have a bit of it in you.
With that in mind, a clannish group will inevitably have a mentality of what does or does not belong. The people who decide what does or does not belong are often those who established precedent, are veterans and founders of the community, etc. Sounds a lot like TL doesn't it?
Is it true non-metal music has integrated into metal and is accepted? Yes. (see folk metal, prog-metal, etc.)
Is it true that non-metal music has tried integrating with metal and is rejected? Yes. See nu-metal, metalcore, etc.
Yes, it is kind of unfair, but that's just the way things roll.
But think of this: Cynic wasn't accepted by the entire death metal community when they released Focus in 1993, but these days, they're heralded as one of the greatest bands metal has to offer. Perhaps in time metalcore may be accepted, but as of now, expect resistance.
but this is true for lots of styles of music. pretty much everytime a new 'genre' of jazz arrived, the original jazz clan got out their pitch forks and shout to everyone who will listen about how 'un-jazz', 'pop' & 'commerical' it was. Which i find pretty funny, because it was the reverse situation when jazz parted from big band swing.
i think one of the reason why bands like cynic get accepted and metalcore bands are rejected is because of commercial success of -core genres. Yes i know this probably isnt the main reason, but i feel like fans generally think that the less successful a band is with a new genre or genre fusion is, the less likely their artistic integrity has been compromised. but i guess its moreso that metalcore is an inherently boring genre (adopting a genre as simple as punk doesnt cant really be fresh for very long)
