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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
August 25 2019 09:41 GMT
#1561
On August 25 2019 18:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
See, what i said about game being random making it hard to play well?

This game degenerated into a complete ranked pub from a single throw by Miracle.


I would need to watch previous years to remember clearly, how the game felt at 50-60mins but it feels like it's far harder to cleanly initiate these days. With so many defensive items, heroes being so tanky and so on, you sometimes can hardly even jump supports. And then if you do jump, they will have enough gold to buyback anyway and you'll lose rosh because you made the mistake of trying to initiate and blowing your cds
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
August 25 2019 09:41 GMT
#1562
On August 25 2019 18:40 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:40 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 25 2019 16:55 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 25 2019 16:52 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 25 2019 16:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
Honestly, at this point i am of opinion that LGD's main flaw is lack of proper leadership and i don't mean shotcalling.


I think their main problem is that they are clearly addicted to tobacco. Despite common belief, cigarettes actually destroy and ruin focus.
Most of the players smoke it seems, so it evens it out. Not that I agree with your assessment per se. Smoking calms the nerves thus also increases the focus.


bullshit. This is just what smokers tell themselves to justify their addiction. I highly, highly doubt many of the Western players smoke.

IIRC at least some on OG and Liquid do.
And on Secret.
LiangHao
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
August 25 2019 09:42 GMT
#1563
On August 25 2019 18:40 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:39 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
You let 5 Meepos walk to your ancient
You save buyback
????
Profit


Aided by a TA with Desolator...
You dont BB...
You lose.

to be fair once liquid were actually in og's base I don't think BB would matter at that point

MC held ravage for it all
Moderator
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
August 25 2019 09:43 GMT
#1564
On August 25 2019 18:41 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:38 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:37 nojok wrote:
Well I still don't get what liquid was thinking when they tried to defend Rosh 3v5, it was the worst move of this entire TI until Ana managed to not use buyback when liquid was taking the throne

They gambled on being able to steal rosh with ravage + rubick blink; OG smartly left rosh high enough HP for that

If it had gone SLIGHTLY different we'd all talk about what a fucking play it was

very very low percentage play, quite awful tbh


100% meme play
Qualitaetsgarant
Profile Joined April 2018
124 Posts
August 25 2019 09:43 GMT
#1565
On August 25 2019 18:40 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:39 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
You let 5 Meepos walk to your ancient
You save buyback
????
Profit


I think they weren't expecting them to die the T4 so quickly, so it might have just caught them off guard.




If you play for 15 Million Dollar and don't know the absolute basics of the game, you dont deserve to get the money.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2019 09:43 GMT
#1566
On August 25 2019 18:41 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
See, what i said about game being random making it hard to play well?

This game degenerated into a complete ranked pub from a single throw by Miracle.


I would need to watch previous years to remember clearly, how the game felt at 50-60mins but it feels like it's far harder to cleanly initiate these days. With so many defensive items, heroes being so tanky and so on, you sometimes can hardly even jump supports. And then if you do jump, they will have enough gold to buyback anyway and you'll lose rosh because you made the mistake of trying to initiate and blowing your cds

I will give credit where it's due, in the past game past 50 minutes was a boring farm fest where both sides were afraid to do anything for minutes because of farming buybacks that would end with one side having such a superior lategame it was just becoming a slow death animation.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44207 Posts
August 25 2019 09:43 GMT
#1567
On August 25 2019 18:41 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:39 goody153 wrote:
I completely missed game 1

the fuck i thought they were gonna take a loong break


You can watch Game 1, but you can't really explain game 1. If that last Range Rax had gone down, it'd have been another Mega Creep comeback.

wtf another rax advantage into loss ?
this is a quote
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 25 2019 09:43 GMT
#1568
that game was awesome, the decrepify + the eblades + ench meant that half the time no one was hitting each other lol
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 25 2019 09:44 GMT
#1569
On August 25 2019 18:43 Qualitaetsgarant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:40 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:39 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
You let 5 Meepos walk to your ancient
You save buyback
????
Profit


I think they weren't expecting them to die the T4 so quickly, so it might have just caught them off guard.




If you play for 15 Million Dollar and don't know the absolute basics of the game, you dont deserve to get the money.



yea, im positive those guys in OG have no knowledge about the absolute basics of the game
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 09:44:46
August 25 2019 09:44 GMT
#1570
On August 25 2019 18:41 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:38 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:37 nojok wrote:
Well I still don't get what liquid was thinking when they tried to defend Rosh 3v5, it was the worst move of this entire TI until Ana managed to not use buyback when liquid was taking the throne

They gambled on being able to steal rosh with ravage + rubick blink; OG smartly left rosh high enough HP for that

If it had gone SLIGHTLY different we'd all talk about what a fucking play it was

very very low percentage play, quite awful tbh


Higher percentage than letting a Spectre get that Aegis with a Meepo/TA lineup tho
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 09:45:38
August 25 2019 09:44 GMT
#1571
On August 25 2019 18:43 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:41 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:39 goody153 wrote:
I completely missed game 1

the fuck i thought they were gonna take a loong break


You can watch Game 1, but you can't really explain game 1. If that last Range Rax had gone down, it'd have been another Mega Creep comeback.

wtf another rax advantage into loss ?

Basically Liquid got a lanes of rax first, got 20k gold advantage, threw it ALL away, then lost 2.5 lanes of barracks and throned with Ana holding buyback until throne started falling. Then Miracle presses bkb and they kill it with w33po. Must watch game because it's not very explainable.

On August 25 2019 18:44 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:41 IshinShishi wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:38 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:37 nojok wrote:
Well I still don't get what liquid was thinking when they tried to defend Rosh 3v5, it was the worst move of this entire TI until Ana managed to not use buyback when liquid was taking the throne

They gambled on being able to steal rosh with ravage + rubick blink; OG smartly left rosh high enough HP for that

If it had gone SLIGHTLY different we'd all talk about what a fucking play it was

very very low percentage play, quite awful tbh


Higher percentage than letting a Spectre get that Aegis with a Meepo/TA lineup tho

It's a low percentage precisely because there is a high chance Spectre gets that Aegis anyways, but you lose ravage and buyback, no?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 25 2019 09:44 GMT
#1572
im pretty sure ana just knew it was already over at that point
posting on liquid sites in current year
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9563 Posts
August 25 2019 09:45 GMT
#1573
On August 25 2019 18:43 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:41 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:39 goody153 wrote:
I completely missed game 1

the fuck i thought they were gonna take a loong break


You can watch Game 1, but you can't really explain game 1. If that last Range Rax had gone down, it'd have been another Mega Creep comeback.

wtf another rax advantage into loss ?


5 meepos are hitting your ancient
BKB Deso TA is hitting your ancient
...
there is nothing more you can do. You shouldn't have let them into your base in the first place, once theyre at your T4s its done anyway
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 25 2019 09:45 GMT
#1574
On August 25 2019 18:43 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:41 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:39 goody153 wrote:
I completely missed game 1

the fuck i thought they were gonna take a loong break


You can watch Game 1, but you can't really explain game 1. If that last Range Rax had gone down, it'd have been another Mega Creep comeback.

wtf another rax advantage into loss ?

Liquid got one set of rax, got teamwiped after trying to go for a 2nd set, then OG got 2 sets and got teamwiped going for the 3rd set then liquid went throne. The usual stuff.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
MintberryCrunchs
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany462 Posts
August 25 2019 09:45 GMT
#1575
And just like that, suck it haters!

Its mainstage ... there will be mistakes.
All those idiots saying this is amateur levels or whatnot - you have no idea how much pressure this guys feel.
Have you ever had some real pressure or competition in your live?
Gtfo your high horses guys n girls ...

Good times baby, more of those type of games <3
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 09:45 GMT
#1576
On August 25 2019 18:43 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:41 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 25 2019 18:39 goody153 wrote:
I completely missed game 1

the fuck i thought they were gonna take a loong break


You can watch Game 1, but you can't really explain game 1. If that last Range Rax had gone down, it'd have been another Mega Creep comeback.

wtf another rax advantage into loss ?


Yup. OG had taken 3 T3s, 3 melee and 2 range rax, but TL had taken Mid Rax.
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 25 2019 09:45 GMT
#1577
Token black man. Awesome.

User was warned for this post
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
August 25 2019 09:45 GMT
#1578
On August 25 2019 18:45 MintberryCrunchs wrote:
And just like that, suck it haters!

Its mainstage ... there will be mistakes.
All those idiots saying this is amateur levels or whatnot - you have no idea how much pressure this guys feel.
Have you ever had some real pressure or competition in your live?
Gtfo your high horses guys n girls ...

Good times baby, more of those type of games <3

hear hear
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
August 25 2019 09:45 GMT
#1579
dude i need those glasses
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 25 2019 09:46 GMT
#1580
On August 25 2019 18:41 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 18:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
See, what i said about game being random making it hard to play well?

This game degenerated into a complete ranked pub from a single throw by Miracle.


I would need to watch previous years to remember clearly, how the game felt at 50-60mins but it feels like it's far harder to cleanly initiate these days. With so many defensive items, heroes being so tanky and so on, you sometimes can hardly even jump supports. And then if you do jump, they will have enough gold to buyback anyway and you'll lose rosh because you made the mistake of trying to initiate and blowing your cds

They need to fix buyback dota, like only allowing heroes to TP 5secs after buyback.
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