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Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-23 04:59:26
August 23 2019 04:57 GMT
#181
On August 23 2019 13:48 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2019 13:48 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 23 2019 13:47 Achaian wrote:
ok

I'm having a harder time taking dota seriously with this kind of stuff in the game

that does not feel competitive


It's TI. Your job, as a pro-level player, is to abuse the most cancerous options available.

your response doesn't make sense; he's not blaming the players, he's calling out the game
It is up to the players to choose the counters. Just like it is up to them to play to their strengths.
LiangHao
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
August 23 2019 04:58 GMT
#182
Let's be honest here, did anyone actually enjoy that game? This seems like the clowniest of Dota i've ever seen.
Getting too old for this..
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
August 23 2019 04:58 GMT
#183
"4 years ago lategame was about being safe, now you have to contest rosh"

?????
how do people who have played dota for TEN YEARS say this kind of shit? i have to believe they're just blurting whatever comes out that feels "positive" in some way
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
August 23 2019 04:58 GMT
#184
how the fuck are you guys blaming the game for rng not being able to break base when they threw away their map control by diving tier 4s
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 23 2019 04:58 GMT
#185
On August 23 2019 13:57 Merany wrote:
So much hate in this thread, it's incredible... I, for one, enjoyed this game


it's easier to laugh at bullshit when it's convenient for you
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 23 2019 04:58 GMT
#186
It was a great game. As much as Tree volley is OP, the other team has 6 slotted gyro, ench and OD - thats pretty op aswell
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
August 23 2019 04:59 GMT
#187
On August 23 2019 13:58 Danzo wrote:
Let's be honest here, did anyone actually enjoy that game? This seems like the clowniest of Dota i've ever seen.

well, someone do admit to enjoy that game
6nnn
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-23 05:01:03
August 23 2019 04:59 GMT
#188
Makes me wonder how differently this game would have went if RNG didn't dive Liquid's base. Late game Dota is in an interesting spot with consumable Aghs and what I think is gradual power creep to that period.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 23 2019 05:00 GMT
#189
On August 23 2019 13:58 Thetwinmasters wrote:
how the fuck are you guys blaming the game for rng not being able to break base when they threw away their map control by diving tier 4s


nobody is doing that. People are complaining about AW being the uber-techies + NP in one and tiny gibbing entire teams from 1500 range.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 23 2019 05:00 GMT
#190
On August 23 2019 13:58 Sif_ wrote:
It was a great game. As much as Tree volley is OP, the other team has 6 slotted gyro, ench and OD - thats pretty op aswell

6 slotted gyro looked completely helpless in the face of insta kill trees that hit for infinity from far away
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 23 2019 05:01 GMT
#191
On August 23 2019 13:58 Thetwinmasters wrote:
how the fuck are you guys blaming the game for rng not being able to break base when they threw away their map control by diving tier 4s


Lost too many pubs against AW, I think. lol But, TL got to the point of the synergy of the draft and RNG dove T4.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 23 2019 05:01 GMT
#192
On August 23 2019 13:57 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2019 13:48 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On August 23 2019 13:48 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 23 2019 13:47 Achaian wrote:
ok

I'm having a harder time taking dota seriously with this kind of stuff in the game

that does not feel competitive


It's TI. Your job, as a pro-level player, is to abuse the most cancerous options available.

your response doesn't make sense; he's not blaming the players, he's calling out the game
It is up to the players to choose the counters. Just like it is up to them to play to their strengths.

the original comment was not about the players in the first place
posting on liquid sites in current year
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 23 2019 05:02 GMT
#193
Is this the best run ever by a team from lower bracket round 1?
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
August 23 2019 05:03 GMT
#194
On August 23 2019 13:57 IshinShishi wrote:
are tree volleys skill shots? It didnt look like it, which is quite bad to say the least.

Sorta? It's a channeled, ground-targeted AoE, and the trees have travel time, so you have to predict where the target will be a little, and it's possible to move/Force Staff out of the area. But the area's pretty big, and the tree projectile speed is pretty fast, so it's definitely not a hard skill shot.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 23 2019 05:04 GMT
#195
Who is this handsome translator?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 23 2019 05:04 GMT
#196
On August 23 2019 14:00 Achaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2019 13:58 Thetwinmasters wrote:
how the fuck are you guys blaming the game for rng not being able to break base when they threw away their map control by diving tier 4s


nobody is doing that. People are complaining about AW being the uber-techies + NP in one and tiny gibbing entire teams from 1500 range.

RNG picked OD. I'm going to assume if it wasn't for OD TL would have at the very least not picked AW. But that OD pick makes it so hard to play any of the normal agi/str carries if you can't make sure to win lanes. Yeah Arc warden is also agi hero but he has lots of int and tends to buy int items so he doesn't just get insta-deleted by OD ult
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-23 05:15:59
August 23 2019 05:12 GMT
#197
On August 23 2019 14:04 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2019 14:00 Achaian wrote:
On August 23 2019 13:58 Thetwinmasters wrote:
how the fuck are you guys blaming the game for rng not being able to break base when they threw away their map control by diving tier 4s


nobody is doing that. People are complaining about AW being the uber-techies + NP in one and tiny gibbing entire teams from 1500 range.

RNG picked OD. I'm going to assume if it wasn't for OD TL would have at the very least not picked AW. But that OD pick makes it so hard to play any of the normal agi/str carries if you can't make sure to win lanes. Yeah Arc warden is also agi hero but he has lots of int and tends to buy int items so he doesn't just get insta-deleted by OD ult


and yet liquid got away with it for 40 minutes with zero saves in that duration. OD is still a range creep with a fancy skin when BKB is active.

is OD OP compared with most other carries? I'm not a carry player, so I'll just say sure for you. But this AW 25 and tiny aghs stuff is broken.spark wraith goes from a minor nuisance to a game ruiner when AW hits 25. Tiny aghs underwhelms without crits and overperforms with them. They are not well balanced and possibly not well designed.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 23 2019 05:12 GMT
#198
Remind me what happened post ti5? It was when RTZ called out Kuroky after they bombed or something.
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
August 23 2019 05:13 GMT
#199
if infamous win this, i imagine mafia and drug cartel will invade their house for "little" retribution
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
August 23 2019 05:14 GMT
#200
Hector WK incoming
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
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