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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
November 18 2018 12:29 GMT
#121
On November 18 2018 21:12 babysimba wrote:
Main problem isn't comeback gold. It's Icefrog making use of the talents to even out the power curve throughout the game, resulting in a very bland playstyle even though a lot more heroes are viable.

During TI3-TI4, each team has such distinct playstyles, split push, teamfight, heavy tower pushing with all being equally viable. Now the major part of drafting is just countering of heroes in terms of laning and teamfight synergy.

That's also very true, the power curves are way too similar now. Even the classic niche picks (I don't like calling them cheese) like ursa, brood and huskar do not snowball as hard early neither fall off that hard during the later part of the game.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
crocshark
Profile Joined July 2017
139 Posts
November 18 2018 12:30 GMT
#122
TB is fine imo. Hes strong but he doesnt win in bad scenario. Arc Warden is just broken. Either you have to pressure the whole map and push to lessen the warden farming area or you die to his double that carry 20k networth.
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-18 12:44:15
November 18 2018 12:42 GMT
#123
TB is bullshit hero
his reflection is better than DS ult.
his metamorphosis is better than DK ult.
sunder is a strong skill per se unless osfrog slaps the hard nerf on it.
not to mention he has +3 agi attribute bonus. one can argue his str growth is mediocre, but who cares if dragon lance only costs 2k gold while sunder is available as the last safety net ?

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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
November 18 2018 14:05 GMT
#124
Remove talents. Give back random.
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
November 18 2018 15:46 GMT
#125
Best thing about VP: they’re the only team in the top three that didn’t lean on an Arc Warden pick.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
November 18 2018 15:56 GMT
#126
On November 18 2018 21:00 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Haven't I seen this already? VP winning tournaments by abusing cancer picks first half of the year only to get their faces broken at TI.

Good guy Secret playing interesting dota.


Not sure I understand the "their face broken in TI" , didn't they finish 5-6 ?? the god damn winners were OG?!?!!
TI is TI , there is a reason no team have won it 2 times yet and no player was able to do so (if I recall correctly) , they are an amazing team and they perform well in TI as well , they lost to the elite teams and did great in the brackets.
Were they the fav coming in with Liquid going into TI ? sure , and probably by their standards they should've done better , but objectively judging , they had a good TI , with a bad draw to get LGD in their first round , ce la vi.
Also they are not abusing anything that other teams aren't abusing , they all play to win and play the same heroes , which is why we its called a Meta.
Secret picking Arch Warden and TB as wel , and that Centaur all the time ..... nothing "interesting" other then fanboy's Bias , which is fine.

tldr - VP are amazing , nothing was abusive as other teams are playing the same , blame the Meta not the teams (I hate TB , but he is a great hero currently, no denying that).
They also didn't get their faces broken at TI , this is a misconception.

Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
November 18 2018 19:19 GMT
#127
Unpopular opinion, but if Puppy had the option he should not have allowed them to move the games up ahead of schedule. Forcing VP to come off the adrenaline rush with dead-time would have put Secret in a better position I think.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4436 Posts
November 19 2018 05:01 GMT
#128
On November 18 2018 23:05 DucK- wrote:
Remove talents. Give back random.

100% agree. Just bring back 6.88 even with a mild illusion nerf
Sucker for nostalgia
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