On August 24 2018 03:30 Danzo wrote:
Did people forget PPD is the lower bracket god?
Did people forget PPD is the lower bracket god?
2 losses 1 win in TI lower bracket matches.
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 24 2018 03:30 Danzo wrote: Did people forget PPD is the lower bracket god? 2 losses 1 win in TI lower bracket matches. | ||
FreakyDroid
Macedonia2616 Posts
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Sphaero
Germany1697 Posts
On August 24 2018 02:57 Dracolich70 wrote: Show nested quote + Most he played with had a very poor grasp of the fundamentals of the game, and that remained so for most of them. It wasn't until he worked with Puppy he evolved, which he transitioned onto 5jungz. He has vast experience, and deserves credit for solving issues, and getting the best of of situations, but the past is not where you find this, likely more on reflection of all the mistakes made.On August 24 2018 02:38 Sphaero wrote: On August 24 2018 02:05 ChickenDieAlive wrote: Uhm, Kuro is pretty on point at finding talents too: Jerax, Matu, Mind Control, GH. I always considered Kuro more as an expert in developing talent than discovering it. Back from the Mouz days with Fata and Black^ (who said in an interview that he learned more about Dota from Kuro in a month than his whole playing career until then), over the first iteration of Liquid with Jerax, Matu and MC (probably one of the greatest development jumps we have ever seen in a player in Dota) to the TI winning squad with Gh and Miracle (an already established superstar, who became a far more complete player under Kuroky). He just knows exactly what his players need to do to improve, which is one of the reasons he is so respected.While others may be even better scouts he is one if not the best player coaches in the scene. I assume you mean the time together in Dota II at Navi and Secret rather than the old Ks.Int-days in Dota I (now back then Ppy had massive positive influence on Kuro). Even if we ignore multiple statements by Fata and Black (amongst other figures in the German Dota scene) about Kuro´s vast knowledge even back in his Mouz days and say that his development skills only began with 5Jungz, then this still started three years ago, which is a damn long time span in an eight year old game. How does that not count as past? This does not mean that Kuro himself of course did not develop especially as person and leader over his long career, though. The guy experienced a lot of positive and negative things in his long career. This shapes anyones personality. | ||
bluzi
4703 Posts
On August 24 2018 03:33 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 24 2018 03:30 Danzo wrote: Did people forget PPD is the lower bracket god? 2 losses 1 win in TI lower bracket matches. LOL , thats why ppl forgot ![]() | ||
nojok
France15845 Posts
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Yurie
11839 Posts
On August 24 2018 03:32 babysimba wrote: So what are the win rates of last pick vs first pick? Past TIs usually have a few overpowered heroes that force teams to waste ban on them. This TI seems like it's more about cancer last picks that dominate the lanes or just alch. https://www.datdota.com/factions/overviews?leagues=9870&tier=1&tier=2&valve-event=does-not-matter&threshold=1&patch=7.19&after=01/01/2011&before=23/08/2018&duration=0;200&duration-value-from=0&duration-value-to=200 Faction With First Pick? Elo Shift Norm. Win % Δ Games Raw Record Radiant No +2.75 4.30% 103 57-46 Radiant Yes +1.10 1.73% 72 40-32 Dire No -1.10 -1.73% 72 32-40 Dire Yes -2.75 -4.30% 103 46-57 So second pick is better. Radiant is slightly better than dire. | ||
Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
On August 24 2018 03:33 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 24 2018 03:30 Danzo wrote: Did people forget PPD is the lower bracket god? 2 losses 1 win in TI lower bracket matches. rofl | ||
Pontual
Brazil3038 Posts
On August 24 2018 03:34 nojok wrote: Virtus throw no longer applies to VP* *TI excluded i know you're memeing but this doesn't fit your quote lmao | ||
nojok
France15845 Posts
On August 24 2018 03:36 Pontual wrote: Show nested quote + On August 24 2018 03:34 nojok wrote: Virtus throw no longer applies to VP* *TI excluded i know you're memeing but this doesn't fit your quote lmao Yeah that's right, VP is not even throwing at TI but they're underperforming for sure. They should focus on the psychologial aspect of the competition, they've figured out the rest of the game. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
The meta even seems to change between different phases of TI. In the group stages, WK was very dominant. Also Weaver and Winter Wyvern. But in the main event, you don't see those as much. Much more Drow, Enchant, etc. But OG's results kinda defeat that point, because they appear to have their own niche, and still manage to win. | ||
babysimba
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Danzo
2820 Posts
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On August 24 2018 03:41 dizzy101 wrote: 5 out of 6 Chinese teams have left early.It seems sometimes as if winning TI requires teams to quickly learn the new meta that develops during TI itself. Virtus Pro were perhaps good during the relatively stable meta over the past year. But Chinese Teams are quickly at updating their play style. Optic Gaming seems also good at that (due to PPD). The meta even seems to change between different phases of TI. In the group stages, WK was very dominant. Also Weaver and Winter Wyvern. But in the main event, you don't see those as much. Much more Drow, Enchant, etc. But OG's results kinda defeat that point, because they appear to have their own niche, and still manage to win. | ||
TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On August 24 2018 03:43 Danzo wrote: Let's go PPD lower bracket god! 2nd try huh | ||
Danzo
2820 Posts
On August 24 2018 03:46 TRAP[yoo] wrote: 2nd try huh Did people just simply forget his tournaments with EG? | ||
Achaian
United States3369 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On August 24 2018 03:47 Danzo wrote: Show nested quote + On August 24 2018 03:46 TRAP[yoo] wrote: On August 24 2018 03:43 Danzo wrote: Let's go PPD lower bracket god! 2nd try huh Did people just simply forget his tournaments with EG? i think you simply forgot ti is not like any other tournament | ||
babysimba
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Danzo
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On August 24 2018 03:48 TRAP[yoo] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 24 2018 03:47 Danzo wrote: On August 24 2018 03:46 TRAP[yoo] wrote: On August 24 2018 03:43 Danzo wrote: Let's go PPD lower bracket god! 2nd try huh Did people just simply forget his tournaments with EG? i think you simply forgot ti is not any other tournament You're right, I forgot PPD so far has been top3 every TI he was in. ![]() | ||
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