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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 23 2018 18:23 GMT
#101
everything almost went to shit for optic, risky dive.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 23 2018 18:23 GMT
#102
On August 24 2018 03:23 Achaian wrote:
optic played that fight masterfully, I can't believe nobody died

Ppd died at the start.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
August 23 2018 18:24 GMT
#103
On August 24 2018 03:21 Nevuk wrote:
Nerfed


She has 51% win rate this TI. Which is after the nerf. Played once on main stage. 42 times in groups.
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
August 23 2018 18:24 GMT
#104
VP is playing meh and this is actually a bigger outdraft than I expected
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 23 2018 18:24 GMT
#105
On August 24 2018 03:23 Kishin2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2018 03:23 Achaian wrote:
optic played that fight masterfully, I can't believe nobody died

Ppd died at the start.


do we even count ppd deaths? but yes you're right
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 23 2018 18:24 GMT
#106
Would really like teams to go rapier after bkb on gyro here in this situation.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
August 23 2018 18:24 GMT
#107
I haven't seen much of that legendary VP confidence this TI.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-23 18:27:02
August 23 2018 18:26 GMT
#108
Huskar seems a bit too strong at this point. My thought that he might just die to Ench may not come true, especially because Ench is constantly threatened by Clinkz in any fight. Maybe VP will do something with this Gyro DD

Alright VP didn't manage to use DD for anything either
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-23 18:26:54
August 23 2018 18:26 GMT
#109
On August 24 2018 03:24 uthgard wrote:
VP is playing meh and this is actually a bigger outdraft than I expected


Only because they didn't bother switching lanes. Pure stubbornness on VP's part.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 23 2018 18:27 GMT
#110
VP not focusing heroes costing them this fight , you need to ignore Huskar until he is last or you all burst him first , in any case PPD took game 1 with the huskar pick , shame on VP for allowing it and getting cheesed , also i am not sure why you fight here , just go back and farm more , you cannot win vs huskar when he had a good start into the mid game , you need to delay the game as much as possible and when Optic comes knocking on your T3 then you go , and in exterme cases even let a rax fall.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
August 23 2018 18:27 GMT
#111
On August 24 2018 03:26 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2018 03:24 uthgard wrote:
VP is playing meh and this is actually a bigger outdraft than I expected


Only because they didn't bother switching lanes. Pure stubbornness on VP's part.


They won both side lanes due to their lane setup. Though losing mid as badly as they did seems to have been worse.
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
August 23 2018 18:27 GMT
#112
VP have been looking really uncomfortable with this meta.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 23 2018 18:27 GMT
#113
On August 24 2018 03:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
I am confused whether it is PPD being a TI god, or VP choking.

Well VP's drafting is definitely off just like a lot of other teams in the tournament. LGD and OG are the only ones still confident in playing their own drafts and playstyle. Even Liquid draft seems a bit off sometimes.

This TI meta is literally NA dota meta, so all the NA teams are pretty much overperforming
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 23 2018 18:27 GMT
#114
On August 24 2018 03:24 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2018 03:21 Nevuk wrote:
Nerfed


She has 51% win rate this TI. Which is after the nerf. Played once on main stage. 42 times in groups.

Ah, thought you were asking why she was picked less than at summit. Group vs mainstage, no idea.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 23 2018 18:28 GMT
#115
On August 24 2018 03:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I haven't seen much of that legendary VP confidence this TI.

LGD brought them back to earth , they probably said "eh , group stage , we are just wraming up" and then BAM LGD takes them out of the winners bracket and now ALL of the pressure is on them , lets see if they can handle it.
ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
August 23 2018 18:28 GMT
#116
Raid boss Huskar.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 23 2018 18:28 GMT
#117
good, but really costly bkb by ramzes
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
August 23 2018 18:28 GMT
#118
Interesting CCNC doesn't use armlet at start of fight when rocket and other slow stuff stuns him.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 23 2018 18:28 GMT
#119
On August 24 2018 03:27 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2018 03:26 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 24 2018 03:24 uthgard wrote:
VP is playing meh and this is actually a bigger outdraft than I expected


Only because they didn't bother switching lanes. Pure stubbornness on VP's part.


They won both side lanes due to their lane setup. Though losing mid as badly as they did seems to have been worse.


Largely irrelevant because the hero that won mid was the one they couldn't afford to ignore.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 23 2018 18:29 GMT
#120
TI is to VP what high ground was to old VP.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
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