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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12079 Posts
August 23 2018 17:56 GMT
#61
On August 24 2018 02:54 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2018 02:51 Yurie wrote:
Risky start for VP with 0 reliable stuns.

I mean, Ench and Oracle counter all of Optic's heroes lol.


Ench and DK was picked after I wrote that. DK handles a large part of their stun problem.

Not sure Huskar is right against oracle. Can't lifesteal at all.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 23 2018 17:56 GMT
#62
On August 24 2018 02:55 Yurie wrote:
Storm could be good here. Sniping off the oracle or IO.

Yes if there is only one of them in the fight, but they protect each other nicely, and Storm is bad against DK's instant stun. Storm wouldn't be able to solo kill anyone there.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 23 2018 17:56 GMT
#63
STOP. WITH. THE. STATS. PLEASE.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12079 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-23 17:57:45
August 23 2018 17:57 GMT
#64
On August 24 2018 02:56 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2018 02:55 Yurie wrote:
Storm could be good here. Sniping off the oracle or IO.

Yes if there is only one of them in the fight, but they protect each other nicely, and Storm is bad against DK's instant stun. Storm wouldn't be able to solo kill anyone there.


One of the normal strats is doing IO+gyro farming and three man other side of map looking for relocate opportunity. In team fight it isn't as strong but should still work out.

DK also isn't instant stun in team fights since you normally are in dragon form.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-23 17:58:36
August 23 2018 17:57 GMT
#65
On August 24 2018 02:38 Sphaero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2018 02:05 ChickenDieAlive wrote:
Uhm, Kuro is pretty on point at finding talents too: Jerax, Matu, Mind Control, GH.


I always considered Kuro more as an expert in developing talent than discovering it. Back from the Mouz days with Fata and Black^ (who said in an interview that he learned more about Dota from Kuro in a month than his whole playing career until then), over the first iteration of Liquid with Jerax, Matu and MC (probably one of the greatest development jumps we have ever seen in a player in Dota) to the TI winning squad with Gh and Miracle (an already established superstar, who became a far more complete player under Kuroky).

He just knows exactly what his players need to do to improve, which is one of the reasons he is so respected.While others may be even better scouts he is one if not the best player coaches in the scene.
Most he played with had a very poor grasp of the fundamentals of the game, and that remained so for most of them. It wasn't until he worked with Puppy he evolved, which he transitioned onto 5jungz. He has vast experience, and deserves credit for solving issues, and getting the best of of situations, but the past is not where you find this, likely more on reflection of all the mistakes made.
LiangHao
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1977 Posts
August 23 2018 17:57 GMT
#66
picking a huskar into an oracle is very strange, considering inner vitality is purgeable and the disarm is super strong.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 23 2018 17:58 GMT
#67
i'm not sure about DK going mid, that's going to be impossible for noone
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12079 Posts
August 23 2018 17:59 GMT
#68
On August 24 2018 02:58 Faruko wrote:
i'm not sure about DK going mid, that's going to be impossible for noone


Only other option would be enchantress and you have nobody that can take bane + clinkz either.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 23 2018 18:04 GMT
#69
On August 24 2018 02:57 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2018 02:38 Sphaero wrote:
On August 24 2018 02:05 ChickenDieAlive wrote:
Uhm, Kuro is pretty on point at finding talents too: Jerax, Matu, Mind Control, GH.


I always considered Kuro more as an expert in developing talent than discovering it. Back from the Mouz days with Fata and Black^ (who said in an interview that he learned more about Dota from Kuro in a month than his whole playing career until then), over the first iteration of Liquid with Jerax, Matu and MC (probably one of the greatest development jumps we have ever seen in a player in Dota) to the TI winning squad with Gh and Miracle (an already established superstar, who became a far more complete player under Kuroky).

He just knows exactly what his players need to do to improve, which is one of the reasons he is so respected.While others may be even better scouts he is one if not the best player coaches in the scene.
Most he played with had a very poor grasp of the fundamentals of the game, and that remained so for most of them. It wasn't until he worked with Puppy he evolved, which he transitioned onto 5jungz. He has vast experience, and deserves credit for solving issues, and getting the best of of situations, but the past is not where you find this, likely more on reflection of all the mistakes made.

Agreed, puppey was the mind behind kuro's development, he was the 1 position carry star that needed guidance back then, and now he has followed the same steps of his tutor.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 23 2018 18:05 GMT
#70
lvl7 huskar lol
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
August 23 2018 18:05 GMT
#71
DK is sad af.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12079 Posts
August 23 2018 18:07 GMT
#72
Necrophos doesn't really seem like a counter to the io gyro at all when you see it in game. Strange so many teams go for it.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 23 2018 18:07 GMT
#73
ghost shroud against rocket barrage lul
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 23 2018 18:08 GMT
#74
On August 24 2018 03:07 Yurie wrote:
Necrophos doesn't really seem like a counter to the io gyro at all when you see it in game. Strange so many teams go for it.

Its the other way around actually, so yeah I don't know. Necro can't handle Gyro's magic damage at all.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
August 23 2018 18:09 GMT
#75
First huskar rotation will be crucial.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
August 23 2018 18:09 GMT
#76
Is Huskar going to stay alive when at some point DK gets a blink to stun him and Ench just hits him from far?

I think Optic needs to be far ahead to have a chance in fights in 10-15mins
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 23 2018 18:09 GMT
#77
i'm not sure, but i feel this game is kinda over now, i have a feeling
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 23 2018 18:10 GMT
#78
So do i, i am just not sure which way.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12079 Posts
August 23 2018 18:11 GMT
#79
When IO is false promised, can he heal even though his hp is locked?
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1977 Posts
August 23 2018 18:13 GMT
#80
On August 24 2018 03:11 Yurie wrote:
When IO is false promised, can he heal even though his hp is locked?


don't think so, pretty sure he meant to false promise the gyro in that fight at mid
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