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GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
August 23 2018 19:17 GMT
#241
Wait, Batrider still doesn't have Blink Dagger?
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
August 23 2018 19:17 GMT
#242
I love Tobi.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 23 2018 19:18 GMT
#243
Part of the reason Optic are in this position is probably on drum before dagger.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 23 2018 19:19 GMT
#244
Well I'm sure almost every team have muted VP.

They only know how to spam chatwheels after winning fights just by riding the gold advantage and casting spells.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 23 2018 19:20 GMT
#245
That tiny punch lul.

"Oh, you are kiting me? PUNCH"
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 23 2018 19:21 GMT
#246
On August 24 2018 04:17 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
Wait, Batrider still doesn't have Blink Dagger?

That's actually the reason in my opinion why they have been losing so far. Bat had free farm mid, and he decided to rush drums as team fight item, while he doesn't have team to fight with him, both Drow and Alche just wanted to farm. If he rushed dagger and tried to catch Brood, they wouldn't be so far behind in the early game.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 23 2018 19:21 GMT
#247
On August 24 2018 04:15 MrCon wrote:
Very good Lich ban instead of brood PPD.


I think he was trying to bait the brood out, that may have been unwise though considering the available alch counters
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12006 Posts
August 23 2018 19:22 GMT
#248
On August 24 2018 04:21 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2018 04:17 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
Wait, Batrider still doesn't have Blink Dagger?

That's actually the reason in my opinion why they have been losing so far. Bat had free farm mid, and he decided to rush drums as team fight item, while he doesn't have team to fight with him, both Drow and Alche just wanted to farm. If he rushed dagger and tried to catch Brood, they wouldn't be so far behind in the early game.


Honestly think he did the right choice, it played out bad but drum allows constant fighting for map control. Blink allows a gank every 120s when ulti is up. Between which nothing is happening (more or less) for Optic.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 23 2018 19:23 GMT
#249
On August 24 2018 04:21 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2018 04:17 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
Wait, Batrider still doesn't have Blink Dagger?

That's actually the reason in my opinion why they have been losing so far. Bat had free farm mid, and he decided to rush drums as team fight item, while he doesn't have team to fight with him, both Drow and Alche just wanted to farm. If he rushed dagger and tried to catch Brood, they wouldn't be so far behind in the early game.

He can't do anything with a blink either. Bat requires some damage input from his own teammates. In fact, drums have a higher solo kill threat.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 23 2018 19:24 GMT
#250
Virtus Throw>?
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ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
August 23 2018 19:24 GMT
#251
Virtus Throw again.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 23 2018 19:24 GMT
#252
I don't know what happened but Optic won that fight.
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 23 2018 19:24 GMT
#253
that's a lot of gold to put into alch!
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12006 Posts
August 23 2018 19:24 GMT
#254
VP spread out and then went in for the fight from that.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
August 23 2018 19:25 GMT
#255
i'm not sure how vp really goes highground tho
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
August 23 2018 19:25 GMT
#256
Crazy how one bad fight and suddenly Alch jumps up in net worth
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 23 2018 19:25 GMT
#257
I don't mind VP being eliminated if they're playing poorly, I root for them because they're entertaining but that's not the case atm.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 23 2018 19:25 GMT
#258
Wait, i just realized that this dotabuff win prob% graph real purpose is to judge throws lol
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 23 2018 19:26 GMT
#259
Not easy to go high ground against bat. If alch gives bat aghs, bat is going to have some massive upgrade in damage. Give jakiro aghs and VP is never going to push again lol
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
August 23 2018 19:26 GMT
#260
There goes VP's entire networth lead
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