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Yurie
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kazyv
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apes
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edit: agree with the main problem being bad draft with do-nothing supports | ||
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FreakyDroid
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Kelefei2016
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Yurie
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On August 22 2018 08:03 apes wrote: if someone told me a random 4k played that series under aces handle id believe them High 4k playing at his top, maybe. Low 4k would have gotten like 5 cs in lane. I think you overestimate how a 4k would do in pro games on a core. The pressure applied is so high that they would just chainfeed or end up in jungle just to not feed. | ||
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nVme
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that and the midone shivas over a hex.... duds | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On August 22 2018 08:04 Kelefei2016 wrote: it is so obvious that both games, ace as carry but he is extremely low performance in both games. or we are overrated him all the while? idk how overrated he was when not many people considered secret notably strong this whole year i feel like most people wouldve just had him filed as one of those t2 core players who does the job but are clearly a tier below the actual t1 players | ||
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juuto
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PhoenixVoid
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On August 22 2018 08:06 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: idk how overrated he was when not many people considered secret notably strong this whole year i feel like most people wouldve just had him filed as one of those t2 core players who does the job but are clearly a tier below the actual t1 players I'm wondering if Envy's blog is still limiting the player pool Puppey has to choose from | ||
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Yurie
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On August 22 2018 08:07 PhoenixVoid wrote: I remember MP was similarly deemed underwhelming, so maybe it's just how Secret like to play with their 1s. I think so as well. Especially now that safe lane often loses their lane. When 2-1-2 wasn't every game Ace performed much better. | ||
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nVme
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On August 22 2018 08:07 PhoenixVoid wrote: I remember MP was similarly deemed underwhelming, so maybe it's just how Secret like to play with their 1s. think the main reason for secrets carrys to be underwhelming is that yapzor is a greedy fuk and doesnt seem to want to give up farm to his carries even if they are behind | ||
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Deleted User 173346
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Slardar
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Kelefei2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
On August 22 2018 08:00 FreakyDroid wrote: Eh, his supports were garbage. Even though Yapzor played decent, its not a high impactful hero in this patch. Ogre is just straight garbage after early game. Ace payed well considering the circumstances, his item usage was on point and besides, it wasnt his job to carry that game, it was on MidOne and Fata, bioth which failed to itemize properly for that game. Necro can be carry, supp, nuker or even tanker, and it based on what the team wants and wish to. But in the games, ace juz cant kill, cant defend, cant nuke, cant tank, cant push but keep dying. | ||
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Deleted User 173346
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Ramiz1989
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On August 22 2018 08:09 nVme wrote: think the main reason for secrets carrys to be underwhelming is that yapzor is a greedy fuk and doesnt seem to want to give up farm to his carries even if they are behind Kind of, also they are saccing Ace whenever it is possible, and Fata takes his "position" most of the time. I remember Ace playing solo Weaver and solo Spectre against a 3 lane, he does that all the time. However, his positioning and item build in this game as Necro was questionable at the best. Getting Eul first into Force Staff would make him far more durable, Blade Mail did absolutely nothing. He was too afraid to use Reaper a lot of times. When he gets hit by Calldown, all he could do is Ghost Shroud, Blade Mail and hope for the best while bunch of Zombies stack on him, he didn't have any escape tool, and Force Staff would have changed that. | ||
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nVme
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On August 22 2018 08:11 Slardar wrote: Was hoping for Fly & EG not to have a high placement after the OG abandonment but here we are. EG vs OG with ogs shit laning throughout the tourney idk how og doesnt get stomped their only advantage might be in draft on how well they know fly and if they are successful in mindgaming him but... meh GOOG | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
especially in eg vs og where even though theyre both solid i wouldnt put choking in draft past either of them | ||
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