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nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
December 03 2017 15:02 GMT
#121
On December 03 2017 19:38 Ramiz1989 wrote:
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On December 03 2017 14:58 nVme wrote:
gonna be impressed if eg beat liquid
didn't think they would beat vp



lol no point into dwelling on those, different lineups
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44252 Posts
December 03 2017 15:02 GMT
#122
i feel like this is gonna be a great series

fucking shit i so wanna watch .. why do i have responsibilities in life
this is a quote
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
December 03 2017 15:02 GMT
#123
On December 03 2017 23:58 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
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On December 03 2017 23:56 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Matu died in 2 fights within a second, from 100% to 0% with 3k+ HP cause Tidebringer works like splash and ignores armor, it always was and always will be one of the dumbest mechanics in this game.

Guess what, you need to be a at a Secret level to pull this through.

Compare this to Gyro (LD takes some skill).

No, you don't need to be Secret level for an overfarmed hero to one-shot whole enemy team, stop saying dumb stuff. Mechanic is awful, Blademail is not good counter at all, it works when you see Kunkka, not when he cleaves you from one screen away from invis or with blink.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
December 03 2017 15:03 GMT
#124
I liked how kky and gh were laughing after the game. They had fun!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
December 03 2017 15:03 GMT
#125
On December 04 2017 00:00 Sbrubbles wrote:
Liquid outdrafted secret massively and still lost. WP secret


I don't consider having very little team fight a massive outdraft lol
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44252 Posts
December 03 2017 15:04 GMT
#126
On December 04 2017 00:00 Sbrubbles wrote:
Liquid outdrafted secret massively and still lost. WP secret

uhm that wasn't an outdraft .. secret even had the better draft if not even draft at least

and though secret won it was pretty hard but that ET+Kunkka is pretty lit
this is a quote
Xurr
Profile Joined April 2016
Germany313 Posts
December 03 2017 15:04 GMT
#127
On December 04 2017 00:02 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2017 23:58 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On December 03 2017 23:56 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Matu died in 2 fights within a second, from 100% to 0% with 3k+ HP cause Tidebringer works like splash and ignores armor, it always was and always will be one of the dumbest mechanics in this game.

Guess what, you need to be a at a Secret level to pull this through.

Compare this to Gyro (LD takes some skill).

No, you don't need to be Secret level for an overfarmed hero to one-shot whole enemy team, stop saying dumb stuff. Mechanic is awful, Blademail is not good counter at all, it works when you see Kunkka, not when he cleaves you from one screen away from invis or with blink.

Nevermind what a game secret had to play to get Kunkka to that point, you sound nothing but bitter.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44252 Posts
December 03 2017 15:05 GMT
#128
On December 04 2017 00:03 Geisterkarle wrote:
I liked how kky and gh were laughing after the game. They had fun!

could be also that they're tilted

laughing all the time while playing is one way of tilting
this is a quote
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
December 03 2017 15:06 GMT
#129
On December 03 2017 23:54 Atoissen wrote:
One of the best games ever imo... Man what an end with that MidOne rapier <3

Crazy thing is
Navi vs VP was even better :D
Great tournament
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
December 03 2017 15:07 GMT
#130
On December 04 2017 00:05 goody153 wrote:
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On December 04 2017 00:03 Geisterkarle wrote:
I liked how kky and gh were laughing after the game. They had fun!

could be also that they're tilted

laughing all the time while playing is one way of tilting

Could be a coping method or just their confidence. These guys have played in so many finals and won most of them, so losing one game isn't a huge blow to their self-assurance or pride. Laugh it off and play next.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
December 03 2017 15:08 GMT
#131
On December 03 2017 23:59 Toadesstern wrote:
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On December 03 2017 23:55 Achaian wrote:
Rapier. It's a good item. Shame for liquid that midone got one faster than gyro, considering they're both good carriers

also, blademail is sorely missing from that game.
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On December 03 2017 23:55 Skynx wrote:
When in doubt, blademail


I've said that 25minutes ago, that Matumba just needs to spend 2.2k gold to get a blademail on his main hero and kunkka kills himself...

the fact that noone mentioned or answered made me think blademail doesn't work vs tidebringer but can't seem to find any info indicating that... so it does work... right?

It should. Its "any" damage and goes through fog or invis, even bkb. One of my favourite moments is noone sniper one shotting himself with rapier.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-03 15:09:02
December 03 2017 15:08 GMT
#132
On December 04 2017 00:04 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 00:00 Sbrubbles wrote:
Liquid outdrafted secret massively and still lost. WP secret

uhm that wasn't an outdraft .. secret even had the better draft if not even draft at least

and though secret won it was pretty hard but that ET+Kunkka is pretty lit


If you get a 20 kill lead at 25 minutes (don't remember the exact timestamp) and still barely walk away with a victory, you were outdrafted. They needed to get constant kills (which involves constant risk-taking), got constant kills and almost lost anyway. One mistake early on and liquid would have ran away with the game.

Bora Pain minha porra!
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
December 03 2017 15:08 GMT
#133
On December 04 2017 00:03 Geisterkarle wrote:
I liked how kky and gh were laughing after the game. They had fun!

Matu was extremely disappointed though.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 03 2017 15:10 GMT
#134
On December 04 2017 00:02 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2017 23:58 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On December 03 2017 23:56 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Matu died in 2 fights within a second, from 100% to 0% with 3k+ HP cause Tidebringer works like splash and ignores armor, it always was and always will be one of the dumbest mechanics in this game.

Guess what, you need to be a at a Secret level to pull this through.

Compare this to Gyro (LD takes some skill).

No, you don't need to be Secret level for an overfarmed hero to one-shot whole enemy team, stop saying dumb stuff. Mechanic is awful, Blademail is not good counter at all, it works when you see Kunkka, not when he cleaves you from one screen away from invis or with blink.

but the problem wasn't him cleaving people to death from invis or from a screen away. The problem was him cleaving stuff in big teamfights that had him well in range, almost dying and suddenly turning it around with one big crit that oneshots miracle, Matumba or whoever else.

It's pretty damn good for him that nyx never managed to return the damage even once in the game. Even that happens with the rapier, he oneshots himself just once the game is also over right there.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
December 03 2017 15:10 GMT
#135
On December 04 2017 00:08 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 00:04 goody153 wrote:
On December 04 2017 00:00 Sbrubbles wrote:
Liquid outdrafted secret massively and still lost. WP secret

uhm that wasn't an outdraft .. secret even had the better draft if not even draft at least

and though secret won it was pretty hard but that ET+Kunkka is pretty lit


If you get a 20 kill lead at 25 minutes (don't remember the exact timestamp) and still barely walk away with a victory, you were outdrafted. They needed to get constant kills (which involves constant risk-taking), got constant kills and almost lost anyway. One mistake early on and liquid would have ran away with the game.


i don't think you understand what outdrafted means
or how dota works
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ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-03 15:11:35
December 03 2017 15:11 GMT
#136
On December 04 2017 00:08 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 00:04 goody153 wrote:
On December 04 2017 00:00 Sbrubbles wrote:
Liquid outdrafted secret massively and still lost. WP secret

uhm that wasn't an outdraft .. secret even had the better draft if not even draft at least

and though secret won it was pretty hard but that ET+Kunkka is pretty lit


If you get a 20 kill lead at 25 minutes (don't remember the exact timestamp) and still barely walk away with a victory, you were outdrafted. They needed to get constant kills (which involves constant risk-taking), got constant kills and almost lost anyway. One mistake early on and liquid would have ran away with the game.

Entire TL lineup except Gyro is really good against Weaver, almost felt like they anticipated this pick.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-03 15:12:05
December 03 2017 15:11 GMT
#137
aeon disk would have been really good for the supports on liquid actually, completely negate that tidebringer smack

so much salt in this thread
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
December 03 2017 15:11 GMT
#138
On December 04 2017 00:11 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 00:08 Sbrubbles wrote:
On December 04 2017 00:04 goody153 wrote:
On December 04 2017 00:00 Sbrubbles wrote:
Liquid outdrafted secret massively and still lost. WP secret

uhm that wasn't an outdraft .. secret even had the better draft if not even draft at least

and though secret won it was pretty hard but that ET+Kunkka is pretty lit


If you get a 20 kill lead at 25 minutes (don't remember the exact timestamp) and still barely walk away with a victory, you were outdrafted. They needed to get constant kills (which involves constant risk-taking), got constant kills and almost lost anyway. One mistake early on and liquid would have ran away with the game.

Entire TL lineup except Gyro is really good against Weaver, felt like almost they anticipated this pick.

Gyro is good vs weaver actually
that flak is really annoying to deal with
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
December 03 2017 15:13 GMT
#139
On December 04 2017 00:11 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 00:11 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On December 04 2017 00:08 Sbrubbles wrote:
On December 04 2017 00:04 goody153 wrote:
On December 04 2017 00:00 Sbrubbles wrote:
Liquid outdrafted secret massively and still lost. WP secret

uhm that wasn't an outdraft .. secret even had the better draft if not even draft at least

and though secret won it was pretty hard but that ET+Kunkka is pretty lit


If you get a 20 kill lead at 25 minutes (don't remember the exact timestamp) and still barely walk away with a victory, you were outdrafted. They needed to get constant kills (which involves constant risk-taking), got constant kills and almost lost anyway. One mistake early on and liquid would have ran away with the game.

Entire TL lineup except Gyro is really good against Weaver, felt like almost they anticipated this pick.

Gyro is good vs weaver actually
that flak is really annoying to deal with

Not nearly as good as Mana leak, mana burn, SD or LD, especially early in the game.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
December 03 2017 15:13 GMT
#140
On December 04 2017 00:10 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 00:08 Sbrubbles wrote:
On December 04 2017 00:04 goody153 wrote:
On December 04 2017 00:00 Sbrubbles wrote:
Liquid outdrafted secret massively and still lost. WP secret

uhm that wasn't an outdraft .. secret even had the better draft if not even draft at least

and though secret won it was pretty hard but that ET+Kunkka is pretty lit


If you get a 20 kill lead at 25 minutes (don't remember the exact timestamp) and still barely walk away with a victory, you were outdrafted. They needed to get constant kills (which involves constant risk-taking), got constant kills and almost lost anyway. One mistake early on and liquid would have ran away with the game.


i don't think you understand what outdrafted means
or how dota works


Outdrafted means you have the better draft. If the other team can't win (or, in this case, can barely, barely win) despite having an utterly ideal opening, then you had the better draft. You're welcome.
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