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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
August 09 2017 17:44 GMT
#121
I actually like tnc overall draft more than OG
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 09 2017 17:44 GMT
#122
On August 10 2017 02:29 Achaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 02:26 Minishield wrote:
I really don't like Day9, at the beginning i thought "well it's his first time, probably he is adjusting", but he really seems uncomfortable, i wouldn't say fake, but i don't know the right word in english to say what i'm thinking XD

I don't get why Valve doesn't want RedEye anymore, i always thought he was really good at leading the panel and that the community thought the same.


There's a theory floating around that volvo invited day9 to bring in the hearthstone crowd so they would be watching when they revealed Artifact

except artifiact has generated exactly zero hype and day9 has been lacking throughout the tournament

I play lots of Hearthstone and I have close to no interested in Artifact at the moment
EZ4ENCE
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
August 09 2017 17:44 GMT
#123
Lumi and LD AGAIN?!
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 09 2017 17:44 GMT
#124
Reb Bull vs Protein, who wins???
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
August 09 2017 17:44 GMT
#125
On August 10 2017 02:44 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 02:29 Achaian wrote:
On August 10 2017 02:26 Minishield wrote:
I really don't like Day9, at the beginning i thought "well it's his first time, probably he is adjusting", but he really seems uncomfortable, i wouldn't say fake, but i don't know the right word in english to say what i'm thinking XD

I don't get why Valve doesn't want RedEye anymore, i always thought he was really good at leading the panel and that the community thought the same.


There's a theory floating around that volvo invited day9 to bring in the hearthstone crowd so they would be watching when they revealed Artifact

except artifiact has generated exactly zero hype and day9 has been lacking throughout the tournament

I play lots of Hearthstone and I have close to no interested in Artifact at the moment

I would imagine there are not many that are willing to switch, given that the time commitment for a game like this is huge and there is little chance that the game is actually better.
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
August 09 2017 17:45 GMT
#126
On August 10 2017 02:44 LennX wrote:
I actually like tnc overall draft more than OG

no physical damage from OG
Mass pipe/BKB from TNC inc.
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
August 09 2017 17:45 GMT
#127
On August 10 2017 02:44 absinthfee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 02:44 WindWolf wrote:
On August 10 2017 02:29 Achaian wrote:
On August 10 2017 02:26 Minishield wrote:
I really don't like Day9, at the beginning i thought "well it's his first time, probably he is adjusting", but he really seems uncomfortable, i wouldn't say fake, but i don't know the right word in english to say what i'm thinking XD

I don't get why Valve doesn't want RedEye anymore, i always thought he was really good at leading the panel and that the community thought the same.


There's a theory floating around that volvo invited day9 to bring in the hearthstone crowd so they would be watching when they revealed Artifact

except artifiact has generated exactly zero hype and day9 has been lacking throughout the tournament

I play lots of Hearthstone and I have close to no interested in Artifact at the moment

I would imagine there are not many that are willing to switch, given that the time commitment for a game like this is huge and there is little chance that the game is actually better.


Not time commitment, more like money commitment.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3620 Posts
August 09 2017 17:45 GMT
#128
On August 10 2017 02:44 LennX wrote:
I actually like tnc overall draft more than OG


TNC's draft looks like it works together better in theory, but they gave up the Jerax ES and ana Invoker, which seems like asking for trouble.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
August 09 2017 17:46 GMT
#129
The particle effects are pretty bonkers in the fountain, so excessive lol
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 17:46:44
August 09 2017 17:46 GMT
#130
On August 10 2017 02:44 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 02:29 Achaian wrote:
On August 10 2017 02:26 Minishield wrote:
I really don't like Day9, at the beginning i thought "well it's his first time, probably he is adjusting", but he really seems uncomfortable, i wouldn't say fake, but i don't know the right word in english to say what i'm thinking XD

I don't get why Valve doesn't want RedEye anymore, i always thought he was really good at leading the panel and that the community thought the same.


There's a theory floating around that volvo invited day9 to bring in the hearthstone crowd so they would be watching when they revealed Artifact

except artifiact has generated exactly zero hype and day9 has been lacking throughout the tournament

I play lots of Hearthstone and I have close to no interested in Artifact at the moment

On the other hand the only reason I touched Hearthstone was because Artosis played it at Blizzcon. Personalities do generate interest. But bringing Day9 just for a useless teaser trailer seems very far-fetched.

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Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
August 09 2017 17:46 GMT
#131
On August 10 2017 02:43 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 02:43 Danzo wrote:
WTF Is with PPD right now? Is he salty because EG is out?


he's been firing passive aggressive shots at reso since the start of the broadcast

there was a veiled shot at cr1t too about drafting

he's pretty salty


Damn I missed what he said about cr1t.
Getting too old for this..
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 09 2017 17:48 GMT
#132
On August 10 2017 02:46 Danzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 02:43 ch33psh33p wrote:
On August 10 2017 02:43 Danzo wrote:
WTF Is with PPD right now? Is he salty because EG is out?


he's been firing passive aggressive shots at reso since the start of the broadcast

there was a veiled shot at cr1t too about drafting

he's pretty salty


Damn I missed what he said about cr1t.




He's talking about TNC, but you get the message.
secret - never again
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
August 09 2017 17:48 GMT
#133
On August 10 2017 02:46 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 02:44 WindWolf wrote:
On August 10 2017 02:29 Achaian wrote:
On August 10 2017 02:26 Minishield wrote:
I really don't like Day9, at the beginning i thought "well it's his first time, probably he is adjusting", but he really seems uncomfortable, i wouldn't say fake, but i don't know the right word in english to say what i'm thinking XD

I don't get why Valve doesn't want RedEye anymore, i always thought he was really good at leading the panel and that the community thought the same.


There's a theory floating around that volvo invited day9 to bring in the hearthstone crowd so they would be watching when they revealed Artifact

except artifiact has generated exactly zero hype and day9 has been lacking throughout the tournament

I play lots of Hearthstone and I have close to no interested in Artifact at the moment

On the other hand the only reason I touched Hearthstone was because Artosis played it at Blizzcon. Personalities do generate interest. But bringing Day9 just for a useless teaser trailer seems very far-fetched.



Yeah, know what would have made way more hype than having Day9 host a TI just to announce a card game? Having a trailer that's more than 4 shapes making a triangle.
LiquidDota Staff
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
August 09 2017 17:48 GMT
#134
Sam H and Tims vs S4 and JerAx. Should be fun!
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
August 09 2017 17:50 GMT
#135
On August 10 2017 02:36 VGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 02:29 caramel- wrote:
On August 10 2017 02:19 dtz wrote:
On August 10 2017 02:15 Procake wrote:
I don't like this whole "refer to the organisation throughout the years as if they had the same players" they're doing. I get they want to make it more like "real sports" when they do that but it just sounds stupid, like the intros were they referred to IG as TI2 champs when it was none of the same players.


Indeed. Very weird since Valve's official stance is that they don't recognize organizations. They recognize the 5 combination of players.

They should refer to the players as the TI Champion. he opening ceremony can afford to introduce players one by one too.

But every other sports use it, even if all the players retired. Like real madrid with la decima, or liverpool with 18 titles. The organization still deserved some glory with the titles that they won, so its not weird at all for me if they referred iG as champion of TI2.

Just like everyone talk OG as champion of 4 majors. Would you like to just say them as 2 times major champ since its the titles that their current roster achieved? Or like at last epicenter, where 'Liquid as defending champion' even when the roster was different.

The players won the titles, but the organization that collected the 5 players, give them place to train, give them salary, etc etc deserved it as much as the players do. iG, EG, Alliance, Na'Vi, Newbee. They will always deserved to be called as TI winners no matter who their current roster is, since when a player plays under a team banner, his achievements are also the team/org achievement.


I think the issue is continuity. It kind of makes sense to talk about OG winning because the team's built around the same founding duo. Other teams (DC is the most blatant example) have been completely rebuilt.

It's definitely an issue Valve need to figure out how to address going forward. Easiest would of course be to say "we only recognize organizations", but that would severely curtail the flexibility of the scene. I'd prefer to specifically recognize player accomplishments, but e.g. the Chinese scene might resent the downplay of the team brands.


I'd actually like some middle ground, such as associating the big titles with *both* players and organizations. New team for a succesful org will then have a narrative of living up to the legacy, while old winners in new teams would be hyped to establish the new brand. (does that make sense?)
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
August 09 2017 17:51 GMT
#136
Casters voices are echo-y
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
August 09 2017 17:51 GMT
#137
I thought it was pretty clear now that one of the main reason day9 got the job was because he knows more about dota and valve probably think he can pull newer player better than other hosts
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 09 2017 17:52 GMT
#138
OG is done
secret - never again
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
August 09 2017 17:52 GMT
#139
On August 10 2017 02:51 uthgard wrote:
I thought it was pretty clear now that one of the main reason day9 got the job was because he knows more about dota and valve probably think he can pull newer player better than other hosts


And so Hearthstone players watch when Artifact was announced.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 17:54:08
August 09 2017 17:53 GMT
#140
The casters called TNC's QoP level 1 blink a mistake/negative, but I think it's actually really good for TNC's plan. QoP was able to 1v2 the lane at level 1, safely ignore the ES roll in (well just blink away from it), and go for last hits early. Off that TNC got to trilane top for first blood and QoP got a level advantage to then lead the CS war.

If QoP went dagger level 1 then they would need someone else there to protect the QoP until she hit 2 and none of that happens.
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