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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 24 2016 01:50 GMT
#461
On July 24 2016 10:49 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 10:47 wims80 wrote:
It's easy to outplay when you got a 20k gold lead tho

not sure you actually saw the networth graph

Not sure you actually saw networth chart.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
July 24 2016 01:50 GMT
#462
On July 24 2016 10:48 ch33psh33p wrote:
Looks like navi still can't beat a single tier 1 team if their lives depended on it


Oh get off your high horse. Secret hasn't faced Liquid/Wings/Newbee/OG yet. So don't get so high and mighty.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
July 24 2016 01:51 GMT
#463
On July 24 2016 10:50 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 10:48 ch33psh33p wrote:
Looks like navi still can't beat a single tier 1 team if their lives depended on it


Oh get off your high horse. Secret hasn't faced Liquid/Wings/Newbee/OG yet. So don't get so high and mighty.

If Secret can beat everyone below that t1 tier its a pretty good indication that they can likely play on the t1 tier.

Bulba-god.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
July 24 2016 01:51 GMT
#464
On July 24 2016 10:50 Kuroeeah wrote:
sonneiko is a really good player. dendi tho..


Hard to do much as bat vs a team with two lasso dispels and they are good at using them.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
July 24 2016 01:52 GMT
#465
On July 24 2016 10:50 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 10:49 Yhamm wrote:
On July 24 2016 10:47 wims80 wrote:
It's easy to outplay when you got a 20k gold lead tho

not sure you actually saw the networth graph

Not sure you actually saw networth chart.

fun fact: before that fight at 41 min on T2 secret's lead was never more than 5k, in fact navi have bigger lead before that.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
July 24 2016 01:53 GMT
#466
On July 24 2016 10:51 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 10:50 Kuroeeah wrote:
sonneiko is a really good player. dendi tho..


Hard to do much as bat vs a team with two lasso dispels and they are good at using them.

i don't know, i feel they're forced to draft dendi these sorts of heroes.

secret looks good, they still have some things to workout like some of their team fighting and early game but they look okay.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 24 2016 01:53 GMT
#467
On July 24 2016 10:52 uthgard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 10:50 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 24 2016 10:49 Yhamm wrote:
On July 24 2016 10:47 wims80 wrote:
It's easy to outplay when you got a 20k gold lead tho

not sure you actually saw the networth graph

Not sure you actually saw networth chart.

fun fact: before that fight at 41 min on T2 secret's lead was never more than 5k, in fact navi have bigger lead before that.

Fun fact: Secret had 4 farmed cores and 1 poverty PLD.

Navi had 2 farmed supports, mediocre farm on mid and decent farm on sidelaners.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
July 24 2016 01:55 GMT
#468
On July 24 2016 10:50 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 10:49 Yhamm wrote:
On July 24 2016 10:47 wims80 wrote:
It's easy to outplay when you got a 20k gold lead tho

not sure you actually saw the networth graph

Not sure you actually saw networth chart.


http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2524350186

Secret wasn't leading by that much for most of the game.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 24 2016 01:56 GMT
#469
On July 24 2016 10:55 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 10:50 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 24 2016 10:49 Yhamm wrote:
On July 24 2016 10:47 wims80 wrote:
It's easy to outplay when you got a 20k gold lead tho

not sure you actually saw the networth graph

Not sure you actually saw networth chart.


http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2524350186

Secret wasn't leading by that much for most of the game.

I know of networth graph, but pld networth accounted for half of it.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 24 2016 02:02 GMT
#470
Secret cores were so much more farmed then navi's. Team net worth graph doesn't tell the full story. Oracle doesn't need farm to do anything. Wyvern and Chen needed farm to not just die to storm solo. Naix had 7k gold in an item that secret had 5 counters to.
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
July 24 2016 02:08 GMT
#471
On July 24 2016 10:53 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 10:52 uthgard wrote:
On July 24 2016 10:50 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 24 2016 10:49 Yhamm wrote:
On July 24 2016 10:47 wims80 wrote:
It's easy to outplay when you got a 20k gold lead tho

not sure you actually saw the networth graph

Not sure you actually saw networth chart.

fun fact: before that fight at 41 min on T2 secret's lead was never more than 5k, in fact navi have bigger lead before that.

Fun fact: Secret had 4 farmed cores and 1 poverty PLD.

Navi had 2 farmed supports, mediocre farm on mid and decent farm on sidelaners.

the 1st sentence is true, though the 2nd is only half-true as when the deciding fight happened (the fight around T2 tower) both LS and bat have equal farm and item to drow and storm + 2 farmed support vs 1 poverty support as you said.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
July 24 2016 02:08 GMT
#472
the best part about na'vi being good again is the tears of salty na'vi fanboys
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
July 24 2016 02:08 GMT
#473
To be fair the game would have been over way earlier if he hadn't gone Orchid, Na'vi had their first good fight with the surprise Orchid. Dunno if upgrading to Bloodthorn was worth it though
rip
Kaj
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore269 Posts
July 24 2016 02:08 GMT
#474
Sonneiko is a good player, but its hard to get good curses off when you have a hero like storm zeroing in on you during team fights and ur allies have no way to control him.
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
July 24 2016 02:10 GMT
#475
sweet eg is out and sadly dc too
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Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
July 24 2016 02:11 GMT
#476
Also Navi couldn't capitalise on their NW lead. None of their cores were good at taking towers. They lost 2 bot and 1 mid tower before they take 1 top tower (which is the least important tower in the game imo.)

Btw i really hate Bat on Dondo. Bat feels one trick to me. Grab someone and pull. If you do it... Great now you are fighting 4 vs 4.5. Bat without lasso doesn't fit Dondo's playstyle.

Still... Navi has Sonneiko. Other teams don't. Means you cannot clear favourite against Navi ever.
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 24 2016 02:11 GMT
#477
On July 24 2016 11:08 TomatoBisque wrote:
To be fair the game would have been over way earlier if he hadn't gone Orchid, Na'vi had their first good fight with the surprise Orchid. Dunno if upgrading to Bloodthorn was worth it though


Definitely wasn't. That item is useless if the active gets removed so easily.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 24 2016 02:11 GMT
#478
Can Fnatic beat Team Nakama?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 24 2016 02:14 GMT
#479
On July 24 2016 11:11 Aceace wrote:
Also Navi couldn't capitalise on their NW lead. None of their cores were good at taking towers. They lost 2 bot and 1 mid tower before they take 1 top tower (which is the least important tower in the game imo.)

Btw i really hate Bat on Dondo. Bat feels one trick to me. Grab someone and pull. If you do it... Great now you are fighting 4 vs 4.5. Bat without lasso doesn't fit Dondo's playstyle.

Still... Navi has Sonneiko. Other teams don't. Means you cannot clear favourite against Navi ever.

You are a clear favorite against Navi ALWAYS if you are a team that can contest OG/Liquid/Newbee.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
July 24 2016 02:17 GMT
#480
On July 24 2016 11:11 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 11:08 TomatoBisque wrote:
To be fair the game would have been over way earlier if he hadn't gone Orchid, Na'vi had their first good fight with the surprise Orchid. Dunno if upgrading to Bloodthorn was worth it though


Definitely wasn't. That item is useless if the active gets removed so easily.

Do you think Na'vi would've won that first fight with Orchid if it was, say, an SnY?
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