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Poll: Digital Chaos vs Fnatic Fnatic Win (16) Digital Chaos Win (4) 20 total votes Your vote: Digital Chaos vs Fnatic Poll: Evil Geniuses vs FRIENDS Evil Geniuses Win (16) FRIENDS Win (9) 25 total votes Your vote: Evil Geniuses vs FRIENDS | ||
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EG 0 - 2 Friends Navi 2 - 0 Secret | ||
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On July 23 2016 23:51 Verniy wrote: why do people have so much faith in fnatic? They don't which is why Fnatic has been losing these polls to the top 4 if you actually go back and look at the other threads. DC is very far from the top 4. | ||
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On July 23 2016 23:51 Verniy wrote: why do people have so much faith in fnatic? So, why fans have so much faith in the team they support and think they will win? U tell me..I wonder why? | ||
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On July 24 2016 02:32 TheTenthDoc wrote: Luna confirmed Drow counter As long as you don't pair her with Tidehunter /sarcasm | ||
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On July 24 2016 02:35 uriel- wrote: Saddest epicentre I've ever seen How much damage it landed on Luna? | ||
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On July 24 2016 03:20 fixed_point wrote: Absolutely shocking map awareness from fantic Their warding is just not there for almost all of their matches from what I saw | ||
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Going to sleep..wanted to catch eg series This game is totally on midone..fucking fed whole game with lane advantage | ||
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On July 24 2016 04:07 fixed_point wrote: Mushi should make midone play against riki over and over again so he can learn... Well, DC made it easier for them. | ||
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On July 24 2016 04:17 spudde123 wrote: This was a rather sad Broodmother. Not a big fan of picking Brood into Bat with 1 pick remaining for Fnatic to respond Not to mention laning Brood against Ember. EDIT: Rofl, the one game where orchid ember works because who cares? | ||
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On July 24 2016 04:17 lolfail9001 wrote: Not to mention laning Brood against Ember. EDIT: Rofl, the one game where orchid ember works because who cares? Stats don't lie. | ||
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On July 24 2016 04:22 stuchiu wrote: I like to imagine Puppey going into the DC room after they lose and yelling at w33 "Stay down fucking trash." puppey doesn't strike me as the type of person to insult someone in person. the only real mean thing he said was towards merlini and envy. | ||
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On July 24 2016 04:24 Kuroeeah wrote: puppey doesn't strike me as the type of person to insult someone in person. the only real mean thing he said was towards merlini and envy. hence imagine | ||
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EG Zai timbersaw? ORACLE SUMA1L? | ||
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Bat even sacced the offlane, so PPD can pull all day. | ||
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Never thought i'd see the day. | ||
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You're going to peak early & hard, allowing ways to break base fairly early. Plus, well, EG is half trolling. Let's be honest. | ||
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Boy, what was BannedTwitchEmote thinking when he made change to boars!? | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:08 WolfintheSheep wrote: This is clearly something Sumail's practised, strangely. Well, when Oracle was released it was already known that Oracle has stupid amounts of burst. | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:09 lolfail9001 wrote: Well, when Oracle was released it was already known that Oracle has stupid amounts of burst. And you can't truly utilize that burst without giving him a solo lane. With BM jungle + timber offlane vs Slark/ES it makes a lot of sense. | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:10 babysimba wrote: Well i think it's because PPD identified that VP could not do anything with 2 defensive supports to EG's early game. So EG gets away with 4 farmed heroes instead of 3 with the usual laning. EG did this against LGD's super defensive draft in game 3 at Manila. But EG messed up the team-fight at the high ground, which cost them the game. (LGD got about the absolute best fight possible.) It's really a 1/2/2/4/5 setup. The ability to free-farm the jungle makes this work. But, well, Oracle Mid is still confusing! | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:19 nojok wrote: I hope the game lasts long enough to see oracle's agha. Next game we have to see WW mid with troll warlord and agha rush Wish granted? | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:25 Papercappu wrote: i just got here.is this universe jungle,zai offlane? Yeah. | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:27 babysimba wrote: I think G alone could 1v5 them late game though if he plays around roar carefully lol. Well, yeah, EG missed their timing, now it's up to Virtus.Throw to show up. EDIT: Suma1l stopped farming entirely, sigh. EDIT2: Nice disruption PPD | ||
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EDIT: ROFL EG, again. | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:35 lolfail9001 wrote: Rofl, Virtus.Throw did show up. EG is going back to their roots though | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:36 apes wrote: bad teams playing bad dota Best player at TI5 and 4 TI5 winners, everybody! | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:37 Salazarz wrote: Pretty sure Universe's boars are more useful in this game than Zai is. I am pretty sure Zai is about as useful as Sufail. | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:37 lolfail9001 wrote: I am pretty sure Zai is about as useful as Sufail. Nah, Sumail at least like, cancelled out some lassos and saved Fear pretty well a few times, Zai just kinda waddles around the map and gives Slark gold, lol | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:38 Salazarz wrote: Nah, Sumail at least like, cancelled out some lassos and saved Fear pretty well a few times, Zai just kinda waddles around the map and gives Slark gold, lol So, Sumail had impact of a support as position 2, while Zai has impact of Timber without farm. I blame PPD. | ||
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it does not work noted. | ||
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Bad plan in hindsight heh. | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:43 Kuroeeah wrote: is this genius drafting by PPD? just picking these heroes like storm spirit and mid oracle? #SavingStrats | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:42 Kamisamanachi wrote: Just looked at the game after watching many trailers from comic con..wtf is this draft and roles EG didn't get the two fights they needed. Io + Dazzle is just a really hard support combo to kill through. Oh, and than ran Oracle Mid. I'm curious what the numbers will look like. | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:42 Kipsate wrote: guys relax its just testing out strategies it does not work noted. that is what scrims are for, not official. Unless you dont give a shit, which EG might be doing | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:44 Thetwinmasters wrote: Eg saving strats For TI7 ..they are saving roles for now , it looks | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:43 CosmicSpiral wrote: Sigh...this is just making me impatient for some core Visage shenanigans. visage is probably one of the bottom 5 heroes in the game. tfw when drow is a tier 1 pick and visage isn't a factor. | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:46 Shaella wrote: Guys i'm sure Bulba was the problem with EG /s Well, Secret don't look anywhere near their second or third incarnation. Well, actually, they look about as well as those at their worst times. | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:46 lolfail9001 wrote: Well, Secret don't look anywhere near their second or third incarnation. better than losing to fucking Virtus Pro | ||
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See edit. | ||
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honestly they look like they're t2 right now I judge that by hte fact that they utterly clowned on DC with that alch game. | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:48 Taf the Ghost wrote: To EG's credit, Mid Oracle worked a lot better than most Mid Kunkkas I've seen lately. Yeah, but in hindsight, they should have just went with conventional lanes if they wanted to #SaveStrats. | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:45 Kuroeeah wrote: visage is probably one of the bottom 5 heroes in the game. tfw when drow is a tier 1 pick and visage isn't a factor. One day Frosty Toad will add one too many buffs. | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:51 CosmicSpiral wrote: One day Frosty Toad will add one too many buffs. visage is a cool hero, anything would be better than the time Frozen Toad made Techies competitively viable. | ||
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Hero Damage: 13.2k Hero Healing: 11.5k Haha, he did almost as much healing as the Wisp. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2524031077 | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:49 lolfail9001 wrote: Yeah, but in hindsight, they should have just went with conventional lanes if they wanted to #SaveStrats. pretty much. They were picking and playing to win that game 100%. | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:54 Taf the Ghost wrote: From the game: Hero Damage: 13.2k Hero Healing: 11.5k Haha, he did almost as much healing as the Wisp. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2524031077 Does it separate healing on ennemy heroes and damage on allies though? | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:56 nojok wrote: Does it separate healing on ennemy heroes and damage on allies though? No, don't you remember that calibration abuse? | ||
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On July 24 2016 05:56 nojok wrote: Does it separate healing on ennemy heroes and damage on allies though? No clue. But, good point. | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:06 nojok wrote: I have only seen zeus spamming ulti on CD, no oracle. All the smurfs are playing tinker atm btw. Point was oracle spamming his third on everybody, no matter the impact. It would 100% rise the mmr in calibration, even with 0-10 record. | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:08 Papercappu wrote: lol what is so throwy about this draft.they're just going dive towers 10min in.i dont think this luna can even get his farm >10 minutes more like 2 minutes | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:09 lolfail9001 wrote: Rofl, it works. For how long though ? | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:10 cchriss wrote: Wow this lane combo is wrecking mid. Yeah, luna won't be able to farm her way back into the game while AA snowballs... | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:11 nojok wrote: Yeah, luna won't be able to farm her way back into the game while AA snowballs... You forgot /s tag | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:12 Kuroeeah wrote: AA mid isn't the most unheard of thing, it was somewhat popular before ti2 since having a level advantage AA that can land his ult wins games. We're not in 2012 any more, though. | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:15 Kuroeeah wrote: I could kinda see it, Sumail getting a quick 6 with Universe in a short time is kinda scary. It's not the most clowniest thing you could come up with in Dota You don't win games with an AA ult, though. At best it lets you get a couple early kills, especially with a draft like this that doesn't push towers or anything of the sort. If you're going to waste a core position on a support, you need to literally win the game with it, and do so fast -- which AA simply doesn't. | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:18 Salazarz wrote: You don't win games with an AA ult, though. At best it lets you get a couple early kills, especially with a draft like this that doesn't push towers or anything of the sort. If you're going to waste a core position on a support, you need to literally win the game with it, and do so fast -- which AA simply doesn't. Well, they do have Void and Weaver too. Consider this AA an s4 style mid. | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:18 babysimba wrote: There are better global heroes like invoker or zeus though =/ Probably better laners against luna-wisp too. | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:18 Salazarz wrote: You don't win games with an AA ult, though. At best it lets you get a couple early kills, especially with a draft like this that doesn't push towers or anything of the sort. If you're going to waste a core position on a support, you need to literally win the game with it, and do so fast -- which AA simply doesn't. I'm not defending the draft but i'm just saying it's not the most garbage thing you could come up with. They actually drafted reasonably well around AA believe it or not and AA aghs is still be one of the best aghs in the game, so maybe the thought process was Chrono into Blast, midas and get Aghs. | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:27 Pandemona wrote: Which is what i like due to Unigod been farming so well this tournament but been on heroes he cant contribute much out of his stun. Now he can right click Void isn't the right clicker he used to be. | ||
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Void was never a good right clicker after early stages. | ||
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Yeah true but i mean you can scale it into something more useful than a beastmaster outside roar and necro for example. At least with void after his ult u can get stuns and do decent damage. I would like to see them put him on Natures again though. | ||
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Never was a great right-clicker. | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:30 babysimba wrote: Universe now seems only able to play offlaners that are heavy in farm and PPD is making Sumail play mid support heroes to compensate lol. 1 year ago he was still able to play plenty of tempo offlane heroes, now he is just regressing as a player. Year ago Universe was a literal god, though. | ||
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void is exactly the rightclicker he used to be he can't take hits as well (due to no backtrack) but his actual DPS outside of chrono is actually better (assuming same items) than it used to be the only reason void isn't seen as much of a rightclicker lately is because people don't build him for that anymore | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:34 Kuroeeah wrote: i don't think EG is actually in a good spot looking at how things are going. How things are going: Aloha gets caught in chrono + AA ult. Aloha dies. VP has no damage. | ||
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I swear, Aloha plays too many Slark in pubs. But then again, he is old booster, so he probably does. | ||
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Ahh finally good job. Well done EG | ||
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One more try for WW mid, plz PPD, make it happen | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:54 nojok wrote: The ogre did nothing this game, if he realised he could do nothing mid and just right clicked void at lvl1 the game would have been so different imo. One more try for WW mid, plz PPD, make it happen Maybe I'm missing something, but unless Bloodlust is really amazing, Ogre seems mediocre every game. I'm really not convinced of the ogre first phase pick thing. Then again I wasn't convinced of mid aa either. | ||
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It's Sumail Tree. | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:57 Blackfeather wrote: Sumail Rubick next pls! Maybe I'm missing something, but unless Bloodlust is really amazing, Ogre seems mediocre every game. I'm really not convinced of the ogre first phase pick thing. Then again I wasn't convinced of mid aa either. Nah, he's the same shit as he was previous patch, the same way SD was a great hero previous patch, the buffs just reminded pros those heroes exist. | ||
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On July 24 2016 07:03 Kuroeeah wrote: okay you guys are crazy, ww and mid rubick is actually not a thing. jakiro mid tho... Mid Rubick was a thing a few years ago Dendi Rubick, never forget! | ||
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On July 24 2016 07:08 Blackfeather wrote: Mid Rubick was a thing a few years ago Dendi Rubick, never forget! that was when fade bolt had a mana cost of zero and did three times the damage. | ||
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I thought support rikki is u just buy boots and get levels for smoke cloud then if u ever get to stage where u get a Diffusal u cannot lose? xD | ||
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On July 24 2016 07:33 Pandemona wrote: Suma1l turning up! I thought support rikki is u just buy boots and get levels for smoke cloud then if u ever get to stage where u get a Diffusal u cannot lose? xD Dagger if you're a wannabe puck. | ||
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On July 24 2016 07:31 Verniy wrote: i've never really paid attention, how do you build support riki? Boots Urn and then what the hell you want. | ||
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On July 24 2016 07:37 Faruko wrote: Im somwhat worried about how fucking poor is fear tho, LC with farm is super meh overall (after getting blink and blade mail) Still ahead of the Jug. | ||
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Was 2k below when i wrote that | ||
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On July 24 2016 07:45 cchriss wrote: Fear? WTF man In hindsight it was correct decision to dive fountain there. | ||
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On July 24 2016 07:46 lolfail9001 wrote: In hindsight it was correct decision to dive fountain there. I guess, it could've been 4 dead. | ||
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Not sure about this | ||
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On July 24 2016 07:55 nojok wrote: I want friends to win for all the drama about regional qualifiers and how it was unfair and blablabla I want friends to win so that all NA teams place below 4th in this tournament. | ||
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On July 24 2016 07:57 Neazbo wrote: Loda and universe seem to accidentally trigger bkb a lot. He switched his boots to that slot, right after that mis-clicked BKB. | ||
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On July 24 2016 07:58 OuchyDathurts wrote: Well sumail is either retarded or a genius. Lets find out! It's one of those "standard" potm builds after the whole midas aghs meta. | ||
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On July 24 2016 07:54 Kuroeeah wrote: why doesn't LD cast more games anymore? too much work behind the scenes. | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:04 Kuroeeah wrote: how is eg losing this game? Can't fight and struggle to rat properly because they 5 man all the time. | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:06 Faruko wrote: Shadow demon aghs is incredibly underrated No, it's just expensive, it was ,na'vi who rushed it one time, giving lot of farm to SD i believe. | ||
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NICE OCTARINE BUILD | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:09 Verniy wrote: Fear decided "fuck it, I'll win this on my own" And then tpd back to base after suma1l tpd to him. It was such a trainwreck, i hope EG laughed during it. | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:10 Pseudoku wrote: EG T2 team confirmed more like t3 friends is barely t2 | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:10 Kipsate wrote: Winter keeping it real NICE OCTARINE BUILD LA | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:11 Shaella wrote: Lol Bulba and aui were the problem xd well they certainly werent the solution. | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:10 Neazbo wrote: TI6 is just around the corner I thought that was the reason, hiding strats and stuff! | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:11 Shaella wrote: Lol Bulba and aui were the problem xd lol kicking w33 and Misery didn't turn Secret into a dumpster xd | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:14 Yhamm wrote: I thought that was the reason, hiding strats and stuff! Kip got it right, hiding items. Don't worry its fine. | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:15 I hef gem wrote: lol kicking w33 and Misery didn't turn Secret into a dumpster xd you forget manila major ? | ||
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illuminati!??!? | ||
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Epic was one way of describing it Peter | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:17 Kuroeeah wrote: universe joins Secret, Secret finishes last place. universe rejoins EG, loses to Friends. illuminati!??!? Nah, universe is a great player, you just have to first pick him DS. | ||
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says enough tbh. | ||
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theyre trying off the wall shit because they look like that when they play straight up | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:13 lolfail9001 wrote: So, how am i supposed to continue learning OpenGL, when i can't stop laughing because of how bad EG finished the game? funny I'm not the only one doing that. Against friends of all teams <.< Also not really Unis mistake, at least not alone. Sumails itemizing, the low farm on fear, lots of miscommunication. | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:23 Kuroeeah wrote: i'm not blaming it on universe but i thought EG would look stronger than this. I'd give them one tournament to slip up and adjust their style. First tournament Sumail and Aui played in EG they bombed out pretty bad, so I think we can give them a bit of grace. | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:14 Kreb wrote: If you go spellcaster mirana im pretty sure Dagon5 (like w33 did) is the build. dagon+eblade is for sure the build | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:31 nojok wrote: People should not freak out, VP was able to take games against anyone and long tournaments are very momentum based like shown by CDEC last year or OG at Frankfurt. Teams have a lot of time to find their footing during the long seeding stage. Last year VP was actually a team and it's just the way EG lost | ||
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As for EG, there's hiding strats then there's ending the game with a clowncar disaster like EG did that game. They're pretty distinct things. | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:32 TheTenthDoc wrote: Here's Na'Vi's chance to show they're the best team that isn't Liquid/OG/Wings. Newbee? | ||
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I mean, Secret diddnt wreck games with him, or am I missing info? | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:43 Artisreal wrote: Why do NaVi ban SK? Watch EG vs Navi from yesterday and you will see why. | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:43 Artisreal wrote: Why do NaVi ban SK? Secret banned SK. Watch yesterday's navi games to find out why. | ||
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[edit] aah yea Secret banned it :D Navi did pretty good with it. | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:44 Kasto wrote: SK has done quite a bit in some of the matches but not from Secret? Might be scrim information between the two. Secret is the one that banned SK. | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:44 cchriss wrote: Secret banned SK. Watch yesterday's navi games to find out why. Yeah, I got that mixed up. doh Was wondering intensely why they would ban one of their enemy-devastating heros. | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:46 Neazbo wrote: First pick Drow is a thing? wtf Did you miss nanyang and summit 5? First pick drow has been a thing for the last week. | ||
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On July 24 2016 08:46 Neazbo wrote: First pick Drow is a thing? wtf Ever since it's spread from Chinese meta it's now a regular first pick. | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:09 plasmidghost wrote: I really hope this is Arteezy and EE's year to win TI6, given the way they've been playing I put them at a solid top 6 finish i could see this happening, i think they have some bad match ups though. | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:09 plasmidghost wrote: I really hope this is Arteezy and EE's year to win TI6, given the way they've been playing I put them at a solid top 6 finish Well, if they did not have Puppey on their team they would have alright chances. But TI curse, bro. | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:09 plasmidghost wrote: I really hope this is Arteezy and EE's year to win TI6, given the way they've been playing I put them at a solid top 6 finish Friendship did just beat EG... | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:11 Kuroeeah wrote: i could see this happening, i think they have some bad match ups though. Bulba winning TI? No. | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:09 plasmidghost wrote: I really hope this is Arteezy and EE's year to win TI6, given the way they've been playing I put them at a solid top 6 finish Winning TI is difficult in the face of teams like OG, Liquid, LGD and Newbee, but top 6 is reasonable if they play well. | ||
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i dont think secret will win TI but top 6 is something I think is possible. Even if they fail out of this LAN, Secret looks "okay" here. OG, Liquid are my top 2. Wings, Newbee and LGD are probably up there but Wings has kinda choked out of Manila. MVP could make a miraculous Korean run, maybe Fnatic could show up in form. A lot of things could happen this TI. | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:18 Kuroeeah wrote: i dont think secret will win TI but top 6 is something I think is possible. Even if they fail out of this LAN, Secret looks "okay" here. OG, Liquid are my top 2. Wings and Newbee are probably up there but Wings has kinda choked out of Manila. MVP could make a miraculous Korean run, maybe Fnatic could show up in form. A lot of things could happen this TI It's Easts turn, bro, i predict OG/Liquid placing in top 3/top 4, but some Chinese team without TI winners on it winning the whole thing. Or Koreans. | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:19 Shaella wrote: so guys is Bulba the problem? :^) You know, your fanboyhood is in trouble when it's the question you have to ask. | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:19 lolfail9001 wrote: It's Easts turn, bro, i predict OG/Liquid placing in top 3/top 4, but some Chinese team without TI winners on it winning the whole thing. Or Koreans. Our overlords have been bad lately. | ||
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MVP is a hard team to read. They had a terrible record leading up to Manila and sounded very unconfident during player inteviews but they placed top 6 which is good. | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:25 plasmidghost wrote: Wow, Ditya Ra finally found the ult button he lost his base though | ||
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Right now they're in some Chinese LAN with most of the competition being Chinese T2/3 teams. They don't seem to be having so much trouble so they're not at that level yet. I think because the team tend to perform much better at LANs they should be fine for top 8 at TI6. Secret running a four core draft at this rate. | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:34 Zea! wrote: RTZ just manhandling all of them alone with Razor, he's playing out of his mind lately, he wants to win this TI so bad Then why he is on a team with TI winner? | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:37 wims80 wrote: Naga is a garbage hero tho, Naga can't win early nor late I've lived to see this sentence written. | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:38 nojok wrote: I want drow kicked out of the meta but certainly not at the cost of having some core naga games. They should just remove radiance from illusions, I hate this mechanic. Naga becomes a useless hero without that mechanic, while Spectre turns into a ganker. Requires too large scale of a changes to happen. | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:42 lolfail9001 wrote: Naga becomes a useless hero without that mechanic, while Spectre turns into a ganker. Requires too large scale of a changes to happen. Naga, specrre, alche, not so big imo. | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:41 ch33psh33p wrote: My face when navi apologists try to explain why secret is still tier 2 and navi is tier 1 despite losing to every other tier 1 team nonstop Don't think any real navi fans think their team is tier 1. We strongly believe we're the best of the rest though. | ||
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Naga will require a rework after that. Spectre will require some buffs. EDIT: Nvm, what the fuck Puppan. | ||
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GG Navi | ||
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On July 24 2016 09:56 lolfail9001 wrote: Naga will require a rework after that. Spectre will require some buffs. EDIT: Nvm, what the fuck Puppan. Naga would just need slight buffs, tanky illusions with diffusal + manta + net + song, even a buff to net animation would be enough in fact. | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:01 nojok wrote: Naga would just need slight buffs, tanky illusions with diffusal + manta + net + song, even a buff to net animation would be enough in fact. Naga would need severe buffs, since even TB sucks without ranged form in actual fights. And his illusions are way better in farming. | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:10 Shaella wrote: rOFL what the fuck are Secret doing diving past t2 winning | ||
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Its fucking great rofl | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:14 PhoenixVoid wrote: This may be the first Storm game in a while I've seen where he doesn't end up a miserable failure pick. Just as you say that. | ||
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the LITERALLY CANNOT DIE lineup is now active | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:22 pellejohnson wrote: What a joke, sad to see how all the casters so quickly fell for some fantasy fake hype of Navi being back Na'vi probably won't win TI but they are a good contender for top 6 and should make top 8 | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:24 wims80 wrote: I can't believe that Navi is letting Secret play this arrogantly, Secret is going full yolo and getting away with it This is the one line-up that can go full yolo and get away with it. | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:22 pellejohnson wrote: What a joke, sad to see how all the casters so quickly fell for some fantasy fake hype of Navi being back Na'vi is the tier 1.5 team, if they beat you you're tier 2, if you beat them you're tier 1. | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:25 plasmidghost wrote: Envy's actually kind of poor for a hard carry He's 2k ahead of Navi's top farmer and pretty much even with rtz | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:24 lolfail9001 wrote: This is the one line-up that can go full yolo and get away with it. Until now I guess | ||
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Well, orchid on naix is not exactly conventional. | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:21 Kuroeeah wrote: na'vi sucks just yesterday we were saying they were the 5th best team in the world. | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:29 TomatoBisque wrote: I think Secret needs to jump WW Like rtz did in previous fight ? | ||
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Dude just man up and go MoM as farming abbadon, it's not like you are going to die by taking more damage. | ||
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Or they can just have Sonneiko use his spells suboptimally | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:29 babysimba wrote: This damn abbadon just steal resources from own team and does nothing with his items :D Dude just man up and go MoM as farming abbadon, it's not like you are going to die by taking more damage. His agha is nuts though. | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:27 stuchiu wrote: just yesterday we were saying they were the 5th best team in the world. na'vi doesn't suck, i just think na'vi just never looked that impressive even when they win games. so fun fact, sonneiko is one of the few pros that doesn't mind supporting in his pubs. just plays winter wyvern. | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:29 babysimba wrote: This damn abbadon just steal resources from own team and does nothing with his items :D Dude just man up and go MoM as farming abbadon, it's not like you are going to die by taking more damage. phase+MoM+mael/basher real pub abaddon | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:31 TomatoBisque wrote: Abaddon aghs is kunkka boat if you didn't take the damage after it ended shit is nuts Gotta try this combo : kunkka and centaur + abba with aghas, that's some solid 20 seconds receiving half damage for the whole team xD | ||
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navi is doing it | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:37 Kuroeeah wrote: na'vi can't win fights if sonneiko dies. Sonneiko can't die from solo storm. | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:38 wims80 wrote: I don't think you can play Storm like this with the huge distance ball rollins, you'll spend all the mana before the fight have even started I usually play Storm like that in my pubs when i think i've lost the game. | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:37 PhoenixVoid wrote: Wyvern is keeping Na'Vi in this. Sonneiko has been the best player this year imo. | ||
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On July 24 2016 10:39 nojok wrote: Sonneiko has been the best player this year imo. All-around or on Na'Vi? | ||
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All around. | ||
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Slardar spent a good 20 seconds trying to kill EE and failed. Teams are going to have to work around Secret's greed of running basically four cores. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Aceace
Turkey1305 Posts
Dondo unfortunately wasn't impressive at all. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:45 blobrus wrote: Secret teamfighting toe to toe with Na'vi is a good sign for them heading into TI. Secret outmacroing Navi by a mile, look at farm distribution. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:45 blobrus wrote: Secret teamfighting toe to toe with Na'vi is a good sign for them heading into TI. this isn't toe to toe Secret is actually outplaying now | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
I don't like navi opening with bat. Hero feels like dead weight if there are counters to lasso. Secret has two. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:31 Kuroeeah wrote: na'vi doesn't suck, i just think na'vi just never looked that impressive even when they win games. so fun fact, sonneiko is one of the few pros that doesn't mind supporting in his pubs. just plays winter wyvern. sonnieko is a god. | ||
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wims80
1892 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:45 lolfail9001 wrote: I like how game turned on it's head right when Sonneiko started underdelivering. Hard to pin it on Sonneiko when Arteezy zeroed in on him every fight. | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:48 CosmicSpiral wrote: Hard to pin it on Sonneiko when Arteezy zeroed in on him every fight. True, but i am talking about questionable curses mostly. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:48 PhoenixVoid wrote: Pleasantly surprised to see Secret emerge in the best shape compared to EG and Na'Vi. Eh, it's one series, I think navi can come back to face them in the grand finals. Hopefully they shake this off. | ||
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:47 wims80 wrote: It's easy to outplay when you got a 20k gold lead tho not sure you actually saw the networth graph | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Not sure you actually saw networth chart. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:48 ch33psh33p wrote: Looks like navi still can't beat a single tier 1 team if their lives depended on it Oh get off your high horse. Secret hasn't faced Liquid/Wings/Newbee/OG yet. So don't get so high and mighty. | ||
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:50 the bear jew wrote: Oh get off your high horse. Secret hasn't faced Liquid/Wings/Newbee/OG yet. So don't get so high and mighty. If Secret can beat everyone below that t1 tier its a pretty good indication that they can likely play on the t1 tier. Bulba-god. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:50 Kuroeeah wrote: sonneiko is a really good player. dendi tho.. Hard to do much as bat vs a team with two lasso dispels and they are good at using them. | ||
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uthgard
2098 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:50 lolfail9001 wrote: Not sure you actually saw networth chart. fun fact: before that fight at 41 min on T2 secret's lead was never more than 5k, in fact navi have bigger lead before that. | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:51 the bear jew wrote: Hard to do much as bat vs a team with two lasso dispels and they are good at using them. i don't know, i feel they're forced to draft dendi these sorts of heroes. secret looks good, they still have some things to workout like some of their team fighting and early game but they look okay. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:52 uthgard wrote: fun fact: before that fight at 41 min on T2 secret's lead was never more than 5k, in fact navi have bigger lead before that. Fun fact: Secret had 4 farmed cores and 1 poverty PLD. Navi had 2 farmed supports, mediocre farm on mid and decent farm on sidelaners. | ||
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blobrus
4297 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:50 lolfail9001 wrote: Not sure you actually saw networth chart. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2524350186 Secret wasn't leading by that much for most of the game. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:55 blobrus wrote: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2524350186 Secret wasn't leading by that much for most of the game. I know of networth graph, but pld networth accounted for half of it. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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uthgard
2098 Posts
On July 24 2016 10:53 lolfail9001 wrote: Fun fact: Secret had 4 farmed cores and 1 poverty PLD. Navi had 2 farmed supports, mediocre farm on mid and decent farm on sidelaners. the 1st sentence is true, though the 2nd is only half-true as when the deciding fight happened (the fight around T2 tower) both LS and bat have equal farm and item to drow and storm + 2 farmed support vs 1 poverty support as you said. | ||
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
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Kaj
Singapore269 Posts
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Nyan
Germany1931 Posts
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Aceace
Turkey1305 Posts
Btw i really hate Bat on Dondo. Bat feels one trick to me. Grab someone and pull. If you do it... Great now you are fighting 4 vs 4.5. Bat without lasso doesn't fit Dondo's playstyle. Still... Navi has Sonneiko. Other teams don't. Means you cannot clear favourite against Navi ever. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On July 24 2016 11:08 TomatoBisque wrote: To be fair the game would have been over way earlier if he hadn't gone Orchid, Na'vi had their first good fight with the surprise Orchid. Dunno if upgrading to Bloodthorn was worth it though Definitely wasn't. That item is useless if the active gets removed so easily. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On July 24 2016 11:11 Aceace wrote: Also Navi couldn't capitalise on their NW lead. None of their cores were good at taking towers. They lost 2 bot and 1 mid tower before they take 1 top tower (which is the least important tower in the game imo.) Btw i really hate Bat on Dondo. Bat feels one trick to me. Grab someone and pull. If you do it... Great now you are fighting 4 vs 4.5. Bat without lasso doesn't fit Dondo's playstyle. Still... Navi has Sonneiko. Other teams don't. Means you cannot clear favourite against Navi ever. You are a clear favorite against Navi ALWAYS if you are a team that can contest OG/Liquid/Newbee. | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On July 24 2016 11:11 DucK- wrote: Definitely wasn't. That item is useless if the active gets removed so easily. Do you think Na'vi would've won that first fight with Orchid if it was, say, an SnY? | ||
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Dysisa
Sweden2376 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
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Xurr
Germany313 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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Xafnia
Canada874 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 24 2016 11:44 CosmicSpiral wrote: Fnatic needs to slow the pace down and focus on getting pickoffs across the map. Fnatic is a SEA team | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
can he stop polluting every promising SEA team | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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Xurr
Germany313 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On July 24 2016 11:54 plasmidghost wrote: Dragon Lance Riki, that must be a first outside a pub Most cost/slot efficient stats in the game, duh. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On July 24 2016 12:08 plasmidghost wrote: No matter what the name of the team, Virtus Throw lives on They're Virtus BRO now. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On July 24 2016 12:11 lolfail9001 wrote: Rofl, this item build on Riki is stuff of legends. ABYSSAL ON RIKI 100% WR IN COMPETITIVE (stats don't lie) | ||
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Xurr
Germany313 Posts
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wims80
1892 Posts
On July 24 2016 12:13 plasmidghost wrote: Can Fnatic be considered a top 8 team? I think they can if they win this series Fnatic is easily a top 8 team IMO | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
On July 24 2016 12:13 plasmidghost wrote: Can Fnatic be considered a top 8 team? I think they can if they win this series Going into TI I think the favourites for top 8 will be something like OG, Liquid, Newbee, LGD, Wings, MVP, Na'Vi, Fnatic and right now maybe Secret because of this tournament. | ||
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Placebot
152 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
We may throw our leads, we may throw our games, we may throw away orgs, but we have never thrown away friendship. | ||
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
On July 24 2016 12:25 stuchiu wrote: We may throw our leads, we may throw our games, we may throw away orgs, but we have never thrown away friendship. ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/718090219652792320/AjXnmIxB.jpg) | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
AA is neither of those things. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On July 24 2016 12:35 plasmidghost wrote: Can you time walk and get health back while ice blasted? No. I guess it might have been a semi-deny pick, but it comes out being OK versus Fnatic's draft because of the WD/Chen healing being mitigated. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
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apes
United States826 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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apes
United States826 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On July 24 2016 12:56 lolfail9001 wrote: Mushi has tight reflexes tho. Always has been the case..high risk high reward | ||
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
secret vs na'vi or secret vs fnatic | ||
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
On July 24 2016 12:58 Kamisamanachi wrote: Always has been the case..high risk high reward he's like a Demon that actualyl has skill /.S/S/S/S/S I'M JOKING | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On July 24 2016 12:59 Shaella wrote: he's like a Demon that actualyl has skill /.S/S/S/S/S I'M JOKING Hahahaha..I like that one | ||
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goody153
44122 Posts
On July 24 2016 12:59 Shaella wrote: so whats the grand final gonna be secret vs na'vi or secret vs fnatic i thought they were gonna save Winners bracket finals for last damn schedule anyways give us fnatic vs secret ! | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
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apes
United States826 Posts
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On July 24 2016 13:02 goody153 wrote: i thought they were gonna save Winners bracket finals for last damn schedule anyways give us fnatic vs secret ! you didnt catch the best games Secret played since bulba joined? | ||
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goody153
44122 Posts
On July 24 2016 13:06 Alpino wrote: you didnt catch the best games Secret played since bulba joined? no i thought that it was rtz going man-mode according to commentsi set myself to wake up in 12 hours since the schedule here in LD says that the navi vs secret match happens last .. then i wake up to see the match wasn't last | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On July 24 2016 13:09 goody153 wrote: no i thought that it was rtz going man-mode according to commentsi set myself to wake up in 12 hours since the schedule here in LD says that the navi vs secret match happens last .. then i wake up to see the match wasn't last Arteezy went man-mode indeed but Secret drafted better, had good teamwork and a really calm and collected playstyle. Besides Arteezy going ham both games, EE showed world class Drow gameplay. Another interesting thing was how Bulba was actually a core in their second game with his Abbadon. Usually Bulba plays a pos 4 offlaner while Puppey plays the actual core from the support position but in this game Puppey was a nicely farmed 4 and Bulba an actual core(and pld playing the 6th position) | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
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