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wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
July 24 2016 00:37 GMT
#361
Naga is a garbage hero tho, Naga can't win early nor late
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 24 2016 00:37 GMT
#362
On July 24 2016 09:37 wims80 wrote:
Naga is a garbage hero tho, Naga can't win early nor late

I've lived to see this sentence written.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 24 2016 00:38 GMT
#363
I want drow kicked out of the meta but certainly not at the cost of having some core naga games. They should just remove radiance from illusions, I hate this mechanic.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 24 2016 00:41 GMT
#364
My face when navi apologists try to explain why secret is still tier 2 and navi is tier 1 despite losing to every other tier 1 team nonstop
secret - never again
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 24 2016 00:42 GMT
#365
On July 24 2016 09:38 nojok wrote:
I want drow kicked out of the meta but certainly not at the cost of having some core naga games. They should just remove radiance from illusions, I hate this mechanic.

Naga becomes a useless hero without that mechanic, while Spectre turns into a ganker.

Requires too large scale of a changes to happen.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
July 24 2016 00:44 GMT
#366
i just think illusion heroes are boring but it's whatever
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 24 2016 00:54 GMT
#367
On July 24 2016 09:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 09:38 nojok wrote:
I want drow kicked out of the meta but certainly not at the cost of having some core naga games. They should just remove radiance from illusions, I hate this mechanic.

Naga becomes a useless hero without that mechanic, while Spectre turns into a ganker.

Requires too large scale of a changes to happen.

Naga, specrre, alche, not so big imo.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
cchriss
Profile Joined June 2009
United States912 Posts
July 24 2016 00:54 GMT
#368
Navi not banning drow. I don't know about this.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 24 2016 00:54 GMT
#369
On July 24 2016 09:41 ch33psh33p wrote:
My face when navi apologists try to explain why secret is still tier 2 and navi is tier 1 despite losing to every other tier 1 team nonstop


Don't think any real navi fans think their team is tier 1. We strongly believe we're the best of the rest though.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 24 2016 00:56 GMT
#370
On July 24 2016 09:54 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 09:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 24 2016 09:38 nojok wrote:
I want drow kicked out of the meta but certainly not at the cost of having some core naga games. They should just remove radiance from illusions, I hate this mechanic.

Naga becomes a useless hero without that mechanic, while Spectre turns into a ganker.

Requires too large scale of a changes to happen.

Naga, specrre, alche, not so big imo.

Naga will require a rework after that.

Spectre will require some buffs.

EDIT: Nvm, what the fuck Puppan.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
July 24 2016 00:57 GMT
#371
Storm again. Oh boy.
cchriss
Profile Joined June 2009
United States912 Posts
July 24 2016 00:58 GMT
#372
Storm notlikethis. It seems okay with drow aura, but I still dont like storm,
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
July 24 2016 00:58 GMT
#373
we fucking lost team
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Vankuga
Profile Joined April 2012
Panama2005 Posts
July 24 2016 00:58 GMT
#374
Is that an offlane Abaddon?
Vankuga
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
July 24 2016 00:59 GMT
#375
win or lose this should be amusing
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
July 24 2016 00:59 GMT
#376
Drow oracle opening destroys bat in lane or lasso initiations. Ban SK so General can't play his aggressive offlaners. Axe is going to destroy Navi's safe when they have supports with no damage. Now another abbadon to counter lasso and Navi's zero damage lineup.

GG Navi
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 24 2016 01:01 GMT
#377
On July 24 2016 09:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 09:54 nojok wrote:
On July 24 2016 09:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 24 2016 09:38 nojok wrote:
I want drow kicked out of the meta but certainly not at the cost of having some core naga games. They should just remove radiance from illusions, I hate this mechanic.

Naga becomes a useless hero without that mechanic, while Spectre turns into a ganker.

Requires too large scale of a changes to happen.

Naga, specrre, alche, not so big imo.

Naga will require a rework after that.

Spectre will require some buffs.

EDIT: Nvm, what the fuck Puppan.

Naga would just need slight buffs, tanky illusions with diffusal + manta + net + song, even a buff to net animation would be enough in fact.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 24 2016 01:04 GMT
#378
On July 24 2016 10:01 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 09:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 24 2016 09:54 nojok wrote:
On July 24 2016 09:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 24 2016 09:38 nojok wrote:
I want drow kicked out of the meta but certainly not at the cost of having some core naga games. They should just remove radiance from illusions, I hate this mechanic.

Naga becomes a useless hero without that mechanic, while Spectre turns into a ganker.

Requires too large scale of a changes to happen.

Naga, specrre, alche, not so big imo.

Naga will require a rework after that.

Spectre will require some buffs.

EDIT: Nvm, what the fuck Puppan.

Naga would just need slight buffs, tanky illusions with diffusal + manta + net + song, even a buff to net animation would be enough in fact.

Naga would need severe buffs, since even TB sucks without ranged form in actual fights. And his illusions are way better in farming.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
July 24 2016 01:06 GMT
#379
Riptide adding a slow effect allowing melee illusions to stick on enemy heroes :D
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 24 2016 01:07 GMT
#380
Hope Bulba learned from ixmike how to play offlane Abaddon
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
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