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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
June 07 2016 14:22 GMT
#2061
On June 07 2016 23:21 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:17 caiovigg wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:15 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:14 caiovigg wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:12 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:08 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:06 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:05 bourne117 wrote:
[quote]
Where do you see any rules about how valve handles invites for TI? There isn't any set rules on how they are given.


They switch players during the allotted time they can switch players. They've played by the rules Valve has given them.

That's just to QUALIFY for a direct invite. Meaning if you don't follow those you must go through open qualifiers. That doesn't mean if you change teams we will view success of your old team as success of your current team. Thats just fucking dumb to assume valve would think like that.


It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite.

The only thing they are stable are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks.


That's cool. But they've abided by all rules up till this point. The Major system is made to feed into TI. If you don't think at the very least the WINNER of each major is getting a direct invite to TI (Provided they don't change now post lock) I don't know that you can be reasoned with.


Or they started having the majors so they don't feel they need to invite a team that won a tournament 1 year ago and now is a dumpster fire (newbee). So, just like in CSGO, the only major that matters for the invites is the last one.


I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.


If valve has any idea of how this for sure invite for previous winner is fucking the competitive scene they won't do it.

Valve is not the only one to blame, the never ending cycle of direct invites is all over the scene. A Major is just another tournament out there but with a bigger prize pool.

A major win def doesn't have the prestige valve tried to hype it up to be.
Kasto
Profile Joined May 2010
473 Posts
June 07 2016 14:22 GMT
#2062
On June 07 2016 23:20 Wintex wrote:
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On June 07 2016 23:19 Nyan wrote:
why would secret get an invite? w33 and misery are also major champions. so you would invite the major winners.

just get rekt secret. can't wait for EEs blog. He was always against a team house

why was he agaisnt team houses again?

Taking people out of their comfort zone and introducing possible new problems perhaps?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 07 2016 14:22 GMT
#2063
On June 07 2016 23:19 OuchyDathurts wrote:
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On June 07 2016 23:18 nojok wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:16 babysimba wrote:
Seems like a hard game for Universe

It would be if iron talon did not exist.


Getting off ravage while under cloud or static storm is pretty difficult.

Secret will have 2 forcestaves this game, maybe 3.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
June 07 2016 14:22 GMT
#2064
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44252 Posts
June 07 2016 14:23 GMT
#2065
On June 07 2016 23:22 Kasto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:20 Wintex wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:19 Nyan wrote:
why would secret get an invite? w33 and misery are also major champions. so you would invite the major winners.

just get rekt secret. can't wait for EEs blog. He was always against a team house

why was he agaisnt team houses again?

Taking people out of their comfort zone and introducing possible new problems perhaps?

Yeah cultural differences. That doesn't mean it works for chinese it works for everybody.
this is a quote
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 07 2016 14:23 GMT
#2066
On June 07 2016 23:19 Nyan wrote:
why would secret get an invite? w33 and misery are also major champions. so you would invite the major winners.

just get rekt secret. can't wait for EEs blog. He was always against a team house


3/5 players are on Secret still, but if Secret stays as is, barring some miracle run starting now, they've gotta disband.

I think team houses themselves are silly for the west. Having everyone live together in the same house can make shit ugly fast. I think the smarter move would be having an office and all the players living in 1 city and treat it like a normal job. You go to the office and practice 8-10 hours a day, then you go home and have your own place and live and gf and stuff outside of the team. You could probably do the same sort of thing if the team owned like a small apartment building and all the players had their own apartment and there was a big shared apartment for work.
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ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
June 07 2016 14:23 GMT
#2067
On June 07 2016 23:22 goody153 wrote:
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On June 07 2016 23:21 stuchiu wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:20 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:18 stuchiu wrote:
It's a poison pill to take the direct invite over a chance to change roster.

What's the point if you can't win?

guaranteed money


This is "Either you win or you're nothing." EE we're talking about here.

Uhm that's ForTehDarkseid man. You should know that he's like azarkon of china here.

Literally zero connection. why are u so salty mate.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
June 07 2016 14:24 GMT
#2068
On June 07 2016 23:22 Kasto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:20 Wintex wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:19 Nyan wrote:
why would secret get an invite? w33 and misery are also major champions. so you would invite the major winners.

just get rekt secret. can't wait for EEs blog. He was always against a team house

why was he agaisnt team houses again?

Taking people out of their comfort zone and introducing possible new problems perhaps?


too much partying in the jacuzzi and swimming pool
The Purgatory of Endless Depths
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 07 2016 14:24 GMT
#2069
On June 07 2016 23:22 Count9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:21 Racket wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:17 caiovigg wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:15 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:14 caiovigg wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:12 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:08 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:06 OuchyDathurts wrote:
[quote]

They switch players during the allotted time they can switch players. They've played by the rules Valve has given them.

That's just to QUALIFY for a direct invite. Meaning if you don't follow those you must go through open qualifiers. That doesn't mean if you change teams we will view success of your old team as success of your current team. Thats just fucking dumb to assume valve would think like that.


It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite.

The only thing they are stable are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks.


That's cool. But they've abided by all rules up till this point. The Major system is made to feed into TI. If you don't think at the very least the WINNER of each major is getting a direct invite to TI (Provided they don't change now post lock) I don't know that you can be reasoned with.


Or they started having the majors so they don't feel they need to invite a team that won a tournament 1 year ago and now is a dumpster fire (newbee). So, just like in CSGO, the only major that matters for the invites is the last one.


I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.


If valve has any idea of how this for sure invite for previous winner is fucking the competitive scene they won't do it.

Valve is not the only one to blame, the never ending cycle of direct invites is all over the scene. A Major is just another tournament out there but with a bigger prize pool.

A major win def doesn't have the prestige valve tried to hype it up to be.

it's funny, cause seeing someone win a CSGO championship really makes it have prestige. Having one major be more important than the others is stupid. I know it's TI and all, but except for items and prizepool maybe, it shouldn't be anything WOW.

maybe like top 4 invited rest needs to play in?
The Bomber boy
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
June 07 2016 14:24 GMT
#2070
On June 07 2016 23:20 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:18 Racket wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:15 goody153 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:14 Racket wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:08 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:06 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:05 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:01 Kasto wrote:
[quote]
No need to descend into to these arguments.
So far Secret has used the rules set up by Valve to be considered pretty much the same team. The rules will have to be fleshed out after TI or changed completely.

Where do you see any rules about how valve handles invites for TI? There isn't any set rules on how they are given.


They switch players during the allotted time they can switch players. They've played by the rules Valve has given them.

That's just to QUALIFY for a direct invite. Meaning if you don't follow those you must go through open qualifiers. That doesn't mean if you change teams we will view success of your old team as success of your current team. Thats just fucking dumb to assume valve would think like that.


It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite.

The only thing they are "stable" at are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks.

Even if there are teams that "currently" deserve an invite more than them, as long as Valve is a shady bastard, we can only assume Major win = TI Direct invite, no matter how far in the past.

Unless winning major means shit now then idk what's the point of majors being a valve event either apart from free money for the players.

Just what you said: free money (+ stability) for players.

I don't want to argue about the same thing all over again, winning a Major 8 months ago with a different roster should not translate into a direct invite, that is my opinion.

Why even call TI the biggest event if you are just gonna separate it with the quarterly valve event anyways. Just make TI a major event as well and crowdfund every major.

Zero reasons to create disconnect between the events just make TI another major and the same crowdfunding as the other 3. Remove the concept of yearly championship if that was the case

You don't get a direct invite to World Cup if you win the Copa America. A Major should be just another tournament held by the same organizer, they have the money and the means.
1nobody
Profile Joined May 2013
Czech Republic2040 Posts
June 07 2016 14:24 GMT
#2071
Just gg out already... this is just the worst
Odawg27
Profile Joined January 2011
United States191 Posts
June 07 2016 14:24 GMT
#2072
Was the Riki killing the courier worth it? He waited a long time for that.
And then.... Trumpets
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
June 07 2016 14:25 GMT
#2073
that courier death is so dumb, that's basic stuff that everyone knows playing vs a bounty/riki
The Purgatory of Endless Depths
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
June 07 2016 14:25 GMT
#2074
how do you lose a courrier to bounty/riki at this level
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
June 07 2016 14:25 GMT
#2075
On June 07 2016 23:24 Odawg27 wrote:
Was the Riki killing the courier worth it? He waited a long time for that.

it had rtz's bottle so possibly?
rip
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
June 07 2016 14:25 GMT
#2076
Rtz losing to Riki. The jokes write themself.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 07 2016 14:25 GMT
#2077
hey guys you're turning into korean netizens please calm down.

it's just a courier death
The Bomber boy
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
June 07 2016 14:25 GMT
#2078
Eh? Naix without farm is just bad
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
1nobody
Profile Joined May 2013
Czech Republic2040 Posts
June 07 2016 14:26 GMT
#2079
On June 07 2016 23:25 TomatoBisque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:24 Odawg27 wrote:
Was the Riki killing the courier worth it? He waited a long time for that.

it had rtz's bottle so possibly?


nah, it was just QB
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
June 07 2016 14:26 GMT
#2080
On June 07 2016 23:24 Odawg27 wrote:
Was the Riki killing the courier worth it? He waited a long time for that.

lol ofc it's worth it, that's why you pick the hero for. scouting, warding, courier kills, ganks. it's the poor man's bh now that bh is first phase banned all the time.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
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