• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:13
CET 02:13
KST 10:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational10SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)19Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea Which foreign pros are considered the best? BW General Discussion BW AKA finder tool
Tourneys
Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1240 users

[ManilaMajor] Main Event - Day 1 - Page 102

Forum Index > Dota 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 100 101 102 103 104 126 Next
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
June 07 2016 14:17 GMT
#2021
PL into naix and DK ? whaaat
this is a quote
spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
June 07 2016 14:17 GMT
#2022
empire stealing liquids strat on dealing with pl: riki silence
caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
June 07 2016 14:17 GMT
#2023
On June 07 2016 23:15 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:14 caiovigg wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:12 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:08 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:06 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:05 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:01 Kasto wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:58 Kamisamanachi wrote:
[quote]


Yeah..the shekels kemal the robber brings to the valve are overwhelming .

No need to descend into to these arguments.
So far Secret has used the rules set up by Valve to be considered pretty much the same team. The rules will have to be fleshed out after TI or changed completely.

Where do you see any rules about how valve handles invites for TI? There isn't any set rules on how they are given.


They switch players during the allotted time they can switch players. They've played by the rules Valve has given them.

That's just to QUALIFY for a direct invite. Meaning if you don't follow those you must go through open qualifiers. That doesn't mean if you change teams we will view success of your old team as success of your current team. Thats just fucking dumb to assume valve would think like that.


It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite.

The only thing they are stable are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks.


That's cool. But they've abided by all rules up till this point. The Major system is made to feed into TI. If you don't think at the very least the WINNER of each major is getting a direct invite to TI (Provided they don't change now post lock) I don't know that you can be reasoned with.


Or they started having the majors so they don't feel they need to invite a team that won a tournament 1 year ago and now is a dumpster fire (newbee). So, just like in CSGO, the only major that matters for the invites is the last one.


I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.


If valve has any idea of how this for sure invite for previous winner is fucking the competitive scene they won't do it.
xyzz
Profile Joined January 2012
567 Posts
June 07 2016 14:17 GMT
#2024
On June 07 2016 23:13 plasmidghost wrote:
If Secret lose this game, Arteezy will have the record for most teams ruined by far


If Arteezy got kicked off Secret, I can't think of many teams that would take him on. He hasn't showed that he can join a team and make it better. It's never happened. In fact the opposite seems to happen a lot.
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
June 07 2016 14:17 GMT
#2025
yeah i dunno why pl was 4th picked, this game is super hard now
hell is other people
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2026
On June 07 2016 23:16 babysimba wrote:
Seems like a hard game for Universe


Yeah, this will be rough.
LiquidDota Staff
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2027
good riki pick, empire know puppey doesn't buy detection
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2028
oh god
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2029
It's a poison pill to take the direct invite over a chance to change roster.

What's the point if you can't win?
Moderator
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2030
On June 07 2016 23:15 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:14 Racket wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:08 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:06 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:05 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:01 Kasto wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:58 Kamisamanachi wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:56 babysimba wrote:
You can justify all you want but there is no way Valve will not invite them for TI even if they place last in this major



Yeah..the shekels kemal the robber brings to the valve are overwhelming .

No need to descend into to these arguments.
So far Secret has used the rules set up by Valve to be considered pretty much the same team. The rules will have to be fleshed out after TI or changed completely.

Where do you see any rules about how valve handles invites for TI? There isn't any set rules on how they are given.


They switch players during the allotted time they can switch players. They've played by the rules Valve has given them.

That's just to QUALIFY for a direct invite. Meaning if you don't follow those you must go through open qualifiers. That doesn't mean if you change teams we will view success of your old team as success of your current team. Thats just fucking dumb to assume valve would think like that.


It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite.

The only thing they are "stable" at are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks.

Even if there are teams that "currently" deserve an invite more than them, as long as Valve is a shady bastard, we can only assume Major win = TI Direct invite, no matter how far in the past.

Unless winning major means shit now then idk what's the point of majors being a valve event either apart from free money for the players.

Just what you said: free money (+ stability) for players.

I don't want to argue about the same thing all over again, winning a Major 8 months ago with a different roster should not translate into a direct invite, that is my opinion.
Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2031
Drafts are weird
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2032
PL mid again DK ? WTF !
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2033
On June 07 2016 23:17 xyzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:13 plasmidghost wrote:
If Secret lose this game, Arteezy will have the record for most teams ruined by far


If Arteezy got kicked off Secret, I can't think of many teams that would take him on. He hasn't showed that he can join a team and make it better. It's never happened. In fact the opposite seems to happen a lot.

I'm sure some tier 2-3 team will pick him up for the name recognition
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2034
On June 07 2016 23:16 babysimba wrote:
Seems like a hard game for Universe

It would be if iron talon did not exist.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2035
ya i dunno about this draft
Come motivate me to be cynical about animus at http://infinityandone.blogspot.com/ // Stork proxy gates are beautiful.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2036
Gyro + PL? How greedy is this
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2037
classic puppey greed
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2038
On June 07 2016 23:17 caiovigg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:15 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:14 caiovigg wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:12 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:08 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:06 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:05 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:01 Kasto wrote:
[quote]
No need to descend into to these arguments.
So far Secret has used the rules set up by Valve to be considered pretty much the same team. The rules will have to be fleshed out after TI or changed completely.

Where do you see any rules about how valve handles invites for TI? There isn't any set rules on how they are given.


They switch players during the allotted time they can switch players. They've played by the rules Valve has given them.

That's just to QUALIFY for a direct invite. Meaning if you don't follow those you must go through open qualifiers. That doesn't mean if you change teams we will view success of your old team as success of your current team. Thats just fucking dumb to assume valve would think like that.


It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite.

The only thing they are stable are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks.


That's cool. But they've abided by all rules up till this point. The Major system is made to feed into TI. If you don't think at the very least the WINNER of each major is getting a direct invite to TI (Provided they don't change now post lock) I don't know that you can be reasoned with.


Or they started having the majors so they don't feel they need to invite a team that won a tournament 1 year ago and now is a dumpster fire (newbee). So, just like in CSGO, the only major that matters for the invites is the last one.


I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.


If valve has any idea of how this for sure invite for previous winner is fucking the competitive scene they won't do it.


Fucking the competitive scene by having 1 team come back? Yeah ok.
LiquidDota Staff
scoww
Profile Joined June 2012
595 Posts
June 07 2016 14:19 GMT
#2039
Riki. I hate this fucking hero so much...
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 07 2016 14:19 GMT
#2040
Let's go Empire! DAVAI
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Prev 1 100 101 102 103 104 126 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 47m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft471
Vindicta 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 705
Shuttle 91
Sexy 40
League of Legends
C9.Mang0387
Counter-Strike
Foxcn179
minikerr26
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1283
Mew2King22
Other Games
tarik_tv7000
summit1g5885
FrodaN1385
shahzam493
ViBE125
KnowMe42
Liquid`Ken6
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick986
BasetradeTV15
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 98
• davetesta38
• HeavenSC 9
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 14
• Pr0nogo 4
• sM.Zik 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22045
League of Legends
• Doublelift5183
Other Games
• imaqtpie2473
• Shiphtur250
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
9h 47m
Clem vs ShoWTimE
Zoun vs Bunny
Big Brain Bouts
15h 47m
Percival vs Gerald
Serral vs MaxPax
RongYI Cup
1d 9h
SHIN vs Creator
Classic vs Percival
OSC
1d 11h
BSL 21
1d 13h
RongYI Cup
2 days
Maru vs Cyan
Solar vs Krystianer
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-20
OSC Championship Season 13
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Escore Tournament S1: W5
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
Tektek Cup #1
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.