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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44176 Posts
June 07 2016 14:17 GMT
#2021
PL into naix and DK ? whaaat
this is a quote
spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
June 07 2016 14:17 GMT
#2022
empire stealing liquids strat on dealing with pl: riki silence
caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
June 07 2016 14:17 GMT
#2023
On June 07 2016 23:15 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:14 caiovigg wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:12 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:08 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:06 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:05 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:01 Kasto wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:58 Kamisamanachi wrote:
[quote]


Yeah..the shekels kemal the robber brings to the valve are overwhelming .

No need to descend into to these arguments.
So far Secret has used the rules set up by Valve to be considered pretty much the same team. The rules will have to be fleshed out after TI or changed completely.

Where do you see any rules about how valve handles invites for TI? There isn't any set rules on how they are given.


They switch players during the allotted time they can switch players. They've played by the rules Valve has given them.

That's just to QUALIFY for a direct invite. Meaning if you don't follow those you must go through open qualifiers. That doesn't mean if you change teams we will view success of your old team as success of your current team. Thats just fucking dumb to assume valve would think like that.


It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite.

The only thing they are stable are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks.


That's cool. But they've abided by all rules up till this point. The Major system is made to feed into TI. If you don't think at the very least the WINNER of each major is getting a direct invite to TI (Provided they don't change now post lock) I don't know that you can be reasoned with.


Or they started having the majors so they don't feel they need to invite a team that won a tournament 1 year ago and now is a dumpster fire (newbee). So, just like in CSGO, the only major that matters for the invites is the last one.


I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.


If valve has any idea of how this for sure invite for previous winner is fucking the competitive scene they won't do it.
xyzz
Profile Joined January 2012
567 Posts
June 07 2016 14:17 GMT
#2024
On June 07 2016 23:13 plasmidghost wrote:
If Secret lose this game, Arteezy will have the record for most teams ruined by far


If Arteezy got kicked off Secret, I can't think of many teams that would take him on. He hasn't showed that he can join a team and make it better. It's never happened. In fact the opposite seems to happen a lot.
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
June 07 2016 14:17 GMT
#2025
yeah i dunno why pl was 4th picked, this game is super hard now
hell is other people
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2026
On June 07 2016 23:16 babysimba wrote:
Seems like a hard game for Universe


Yeah, this will be rough.
LiquidDota Staff
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2027
good riki pick, empire know puppey doesn't buy detection
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2028
oh god
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2029
It's a poison pill to take the direct invite over a chance to change roster.

What's the point if you can't win?
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Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2030
On June 07 2016 23:15 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:14 Racket wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:08 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:06 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:05 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:01 Kasto wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:58 Kamisamanachi wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:56 babysimba wrote:
You can justify all you want but there is no way Valve will not invite them for TI even if they place last in this major



Yeah..the shekels kemal the robber brings to the valve are overwhelming .

No need to descend into to these arguments.
So far Secret has used the rules set up by Valve to be considered pretty much the same team. The rules will have to be fleshed out after TI or changed completely.

Where do you see any rules about how valve handles invites for TI? There isn't any set rules on how they are given.


They switch players during the allotted time they can switch players. They've played by the rules Valve has given them.

That's just to QUALIFY for a direct invite. Meaning if you don't follow those you must go through open qualifiers. That doesn't mean if you change teams we will view success of your old team as success of your current team. Thats just fucking dumb to assume valve would think like that.


It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite.

The only thing they are "stable" at are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks.

Even if there are teams that "currently" deserve an invite more than them, as long as Valve is a shady bastard, we can only assume Major win = TI Direct invite, no matter how far in the past.

Unless winning major means shit now then idk what's the point of majors being a valve event either apart from free money for the players.

Just what you said: free money (+ stability) for players.

I don't want to argue about the same thing all over again, winning a Major 8 months ago with a different roster should not translate into a direct invite, that is my opinion.
Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2031
Drafts are weird
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2032
PL mid again DK ? WTF !
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2033
On June 07 2016 23:17 xyzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:13 plasmidghost wrote:
If Secret lose this game, Arteezy will have the record for most teams ruined by far


If Arteezy got kicked off Secret, I can't think of many teams that would take him on. He hasn't showed that he can join a team and make it better. It's never happened. In fact the opposite seems to happen a lot.

I'm sure some tier 2-3 team will pick him up for the name recognition
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2034
On June 07 2016 23:16 babysimba wrote:
Seems like a hard game for Universe

It would be if iron talon did not exist.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2035
ya i dunno about this draft
Come motivate me to be cynical about animus at http://infinityandone.blogspot.com/ // Stork proxy gates are beautiful.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2036
Gyro + PL? How greedy is this
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2037
classic puppey greed
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 07 2016 14:18 GMT
#2038
On June 07 2016 23:17 caiovigg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:15 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:14 caiovigg wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:12 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:08 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:06 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:05 bourne117 wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:01 Kasto wrote:
[quote]
No need to descend into to these arguments.
So far Secret has used the rules set up by Valve to be considered pretty much the same team. The rules will have to be fleshed out after TI or changed completely.

Where do you see any rules about how valve handles invites for TI? There isn't any set rules on how they are given.


They switch players during the allotted time they can switch players. They've played by the rules Valve has given them.

That's just to QUALIFY for a direct invite. Meaning if you don't follow those you must go through open qualifiers. That doesn't mean if you change teams we will view success of your old team as success of your current team. Thats just fucking dumb to assume valve would think like that.


It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite.

The only thing they are stable are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks.


That's cool. But they've abided by all rules up till this point. The Major system is made to feed into TI. If you don't think at the very least the WINNER of each major is getting a direct invite to TI (Provided they don't change now post lock) I don't know that you can be reasoned with.


Or they started having the majors so they don't feel they need to invite a team that won a tournament 1 year ago and now is a dumpster fire (newbee). So, just like in CSGO, the only major that matters for the invites is the last one.


I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.


If valve has any idea of how this for sure invite for previous winner is fucking the competitive scene they won't do it.


Fucking the competitive scene by having 1 team come back? Yeah ok.
LiquidDota Staff
scoww
Profile Joined June 2012
595 Posts
June 07 2016 14:19 GMT
#2039
Riki. I hate this fucking hero so much...
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 07 2016 14:19 GMT
#2040
Let's go Empire! DAVAI
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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