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On June 07 2016 23:17 xyzz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 23:13 plasmidghost wrote:
If Secret lose this game, Arteezy will have the record for most teams ruined by far If Arteezy got kicked off Secret, I can't think of many teams that would take him on. He hasn't showed that he can join a team and make it better. It's never happened. In fact the opposite seems to happen a lot.
S A D B O Y S EG though. And Secret 3.0? He's had a bad run since TI5 but let's not forget how god damn scary his teams were prior to that.
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cmon my boy EE don't go out like this
atleast do better then EG.
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why would secret get an invite? w33 and misery are also major champions. so you would invite the major winners.
just get rekt secret. can't wait for EEs blog. He was always against a team house
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On June 07 2016 23:18 nojok wrote:It would be if iron talon did not exist.
Getting off ravage while under cloud or static storm is pretty difficult.
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WINNING FROM THIS DRAFT IS A STATEMENT!!
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On June 07 2016 23:18 stuchiu wrote:
It's a poison pill to take the direct invite over a chance to change roster.
What's the point if you can't win?
guaranteed money
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On June 07 2016 23:18 Racket wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 23:15 goody153 wrote:On June 07 2016 23:14 Racket wrote:On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 07 2016 23:08 bourne117 wrote:On June 07 2016 23:06 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 07 2016 23:05 bourne117 wrote:On June 07 2016 23:01 Kasto wrote:On June 07 2016 22:58 Kamisamanachi wrote:
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Yeah..the shekels kemal the robber brings to the valve are overwhelming . No need to descend into to these arguments. So far Secret has used the rules set up by Valve to be considered pretty much the same team. The rules will have to be fleshed out after TI or changed completely. Where do you see any rules about how valve handles invites for TI? There isn't any set rules on how they are given. They switch players during the allotted time they can switch players. They've played by the rules Valve has given them. That's just to QUALIFY for a direct invite. Meaning if you don't follow those you must go through open qualifiers. That doesn't mean if you change teams we will view success of your old team as success of your current team. Thats just fucking dumb to assume valve would think like that. It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite. The only thing they are "stable" at are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks. Even if there are teams that "currently" deserve an invite more than them, as long as Valve is a shady bastard, we can only assume Major win = TI Direct invite, no matter how far in the past. Unless winning major means shit now then idk what's the point of majors being a valve event either apart from free money for the players. Just what you said: free money (+ stability) for players. I don't want to argue about the same thing all over again, winning a Major 8 months ago with a different roster should not translate into a direct invite, that is my opinion.
Why even call TI the biggest event if you are just gonna separate it with the quarterly valve event anyways. Just make TI a major event as well and crowdfund every major.
Zero reasons to create disconnect between the events just make TI another major and the same crowdfunding as the other 3. Remove the concept of yearly championship if that was the case
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On June 07 2016 23:17 xyzz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 23:13 plasmidghost wrote:
If Secret lose this game, Arteezy will have the record for most teams ruined by far If Arteezy got kicked off Secret, I can't think of many teams that would take him on. He hasn't showed that he can join a team and make it better. It's never happened. In fact the opposite seems to happen a lot.
He made secret work, though? him and zai made the months leading to ti5 great for them, and he was probably the best carry in the world with aggressif
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So... doesn't DK match up well with PL in a mid match-up? And I feel like Riki could completely mess with Secret and really throw them off.
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No offense to Secret fans, but I hope Secret gets fucking crushed.
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Alright Good Game honestly
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Double runes gone we lost boys let's go home
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well, this will be a challenge
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On June 07 2016 23:19 Nyan wrote:
why would secret get an invite? w33 and misery are also major champions. so you would invite the major winners.
just get rekt secret. can't wait for EEs blog. He was always against a team house
why was he agaisnt team houses again?
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On June 07 2016 23:20 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 23:18 stuchiu wrote:
It's a poison pill to take the direct invite over a chance to change roster.
What's the point if you can't win? guaranteed money
This is "Either you win or you're nothing." EE we're talking about here.
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On June 07 2016 23:17 caiovigg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 23:15 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 07 2016 23:14 caiovigg wrote:On June 07 2016 23:12 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 07 2016 23:08 bourne117 wrote:On June 07 2016 23:06 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 07 2016 23:05 bourne117 wrote:On June 07 2016 23:01 Kasto wrote:
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No need to descend into to these arguments.
So far Secret has used the rules set up by Valve to be considered pretty much the same team. The rules will have to be fleshed out after TI or changed completely. Where do you see any rules about how valve handles invites for TI? There isn't any set rules on how they are given. They switch players during the allotted time they can switch players. They've played by the rules Valve has given them. That's just to QUALIFY for a direct invite. Meaning if you don't follow those you must go through open qualifiers. That doesn't mean if you change teams we will view success of your old team as success of your current team. Thats just fucking dumb to assume valve would think like that. It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite. The only thing they are stable are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks. That's cool. But they've abided by all rules up till this point. The Major system is made to feed into TI. If you don't think at the very least the WINNER of each major is getting a direct invite to TI (Provided they don't change now post lock) I don't know that you can be reasoned with. Or they started having the majors so they don't feel they need to invite a team that won a tournament 1 year ago and now is a dumpster fire (newbee). So, just like in CSGO, the only major that matters for the invites is the last one. I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. If valve has any idea of how this for sure invite for previous winner is fucking the competitive scene they won't do it.
Valve is not the only one to blame, the never ending cycle of direct invites is all over the scene. A Major is just another tournament out there but with a bigger prize pool.
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On June 07 2016 23:19 Nyan wrote:
why would secret get an invite? w33 and misery are also major champions. so you would invite the major winners.
just get rekt secret. can't wait for EEs blog. He was always against a team house
cuz apparently people think the orgs themselves are winning tournaments, not the players. and as long as ur still called secret ur current roster that's 10x worse retains the achievements of every player u've ever had.
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On June 07 2016 23:21 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 23:20 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On June 07 2016 23:18 stuchiu wrote:
It's a poison pill to take the direct invite over a chance to change roster.
What's the point if you can't win? guaranteed money This is "Either you win or you're nothing." EE we're talking about here.
Uhm that's ForTehDarkseid man. You should know that he's like azarkon of china here.
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On June 07 2016 23:21 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 23:20 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On June 07 2016 23:18 stuchiu wrote:
It's a poison pill to take the direct invite over a chance to change roster.
What's the point if you can't win? guaranteed money This is "Either you win or you're nothing." EE we're talking about here.
secret need some fuking godly korean coach stuchiu
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