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On June 07 2016 23:27 Racket wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 23:22 Count9 wrote:On June 07 2016 23:21 Racket wrote:On June 07 2016 23:17 caiovigg wrote:On June 07 2016 23:15 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 07 2016 23:14 caiovigg wrote:On June 07 2016 23:12 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 07 2016 23:08 bourne117 wrote:
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That's just to QUALIFY for a direct invite. Meaning if you don't follow those you must go through open qualifiers. That doesn't mean if you change teams we will view success of your old team as success of your current team. Thats just fucking dumb to assume valve would think like that. It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite. The only thing they are stable are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks. That's cool. But they've abided by all rules up till this point. The Major system is made to feed into TI. If you don't think at the very least the WINNER of each major is getting a direct invite to TI (Provided they don't change now post lock) I don't know that you can be reasoned with. Or they started having the majors so they don't feel they need to invite a team that won a tournament 1 year ago and now is a dumpster fire (newbee). So, just like in CSGO, the only major that matters for the invites is the last one. I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. If valve has any idea of how this for sure invite for previous winner is fucking the competitive scene they won't do it. Valve is not the only one to blame, the never ending cycle of direct invites is all over the scene. A Major is just another tournament out there but with a bigger prize pool. A major win def doesn't have the prestige valve tried to hype it up to be. Let me put it this way: Does Valve wants to avoid all this drama? They should just remove the roster lock. That way they invite the organization instead of the players and all good. Valve does things wrong and can't even make up for it.
the biggest god damn problem is that they don't set 1 kick and 1 pickup date.
AND they don't make the winter major a bit earlier, so now everything is awkward since there should be some roster lock period now.
the winter major being 1 month earlier and this tournament being 1 month earlier would have allowed EG and Secret to get this bullshit out of their systems so they can come with good old championship worthy teams.
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Secret misses both tower lasthits.
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good job secret /s
On June 07 2016 23:24 Racket wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 23:20 goody153 wrote:On June 07 2016 23:18 Racket wrote:On June 07 2016 23:15 goody153 wrote:On June 07 2016 23:14 Racket wrote:On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 07 2016 23:08 bourne117 wrote:On June 07 2016 23:06 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 07 2016 23:05 bourne117 wrote:
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Where do you see any rules about how valve handles invites for TI? There isn't any set rules on how they are given. They switch players during the allotted time they can switch players. They've played by the rules Valve has given them. That's just to QUALIFY for a direct invite. Meaning if you don't follow those you must go through open qualifiers. That doesn't mean if you change teams we will view success of your old team as success of your current team. Thats just fucking dumb to assume valve would think like that. It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite. The only thing they are "stable" at are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks. Even if there are teams that "currently" deserve an invite more than them, as long as Valve is a shady bastard, we can only assume Major win = TI Direct invite, no matter how far in the past. Unless winning major means shit now then idk what's the point of majors being a valve event either apart from free money for the players. Just what you said: free money (+ stability) for players. I don't want to argue about the same thing all over again, winning a Major 8 months ago with a different roster should not translate into a direct invite, that is my opinion. Why even call TI the biggest event if you are just gonna separate it with the quarterly valve event anyways. Just make TI a major event as well and crowdfund every major. Zero reasons to create disconnect between the events just make TI another major and the same crowdfunding as the other 3. Remove the concept of yearly championship if that was the case You don't get a direct invite to World Cup if you win the Copa America. A Major should be just another tournament held by the same organizer, they have the money and the means.
Literally different game.
You have one who is incredibly unstable etc and one who hasn't been on professional scene can suddenly become the best. And the other who needs you to prepare your entire life to be actually good.
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On June 07 2016 23:30 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 23:27 Racket wrote:On June 07 2016 23:22 Count9 wrote:On June 07 2016 23:21 Racket wrote:On June 07 2016 23:17 caiovigg wrote:On June 07 2016 23:15 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 07 2016 23:14 caiovigg wrote:On June 07 2016 23:12 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:
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It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite. The only thing they are stable are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks. That's cool. But they've abided by all rules up till this point. The Major system is made to feed into TI. If you don't think at the very least the WINNER of each major is getting a direct invite to TI (Provided they don't change now post lock) I don't know that you can be reasoned with. Or they started having the majors so they don't feel they need to invite a team that won a tournament 1 year ago and now is a dumpster fire (newbee). So, just like in CSGO, the only major that matters for the invites is the last one. I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. If valve has any idea of how this for sure invite for previous winner is fucking the competitive scene they won't do it. Valve is not the only one to blame, the never ending cycle of direct invites is all over the scene. A Major is just another tournament out there but with a bigger prize pool. A major win def doesn't have the prestige valve tried to hype it up to be. Let me put it this way: Does Valve wants to avoid all this drama? They should just remove the roster lock. That way they invite the organization instead of the players and all good. Valve does things wrong and can't even make up for it. the biggest god damn problem is that they don't set 1 kick and 1 pickup date. AND they don't make the winter major a bit earlier, so now everything is awkward since there should be some roster lock period now. the winter major being 1 month earlier and this tournament being 1 month earlier would have allowed EG and Secret to get this bullshit out of their systems so they can come with good old championship worthy teams.
Yeah their roster change system is flawed but hopefully they learn
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Who is the cancer who needs to be removed from Team Secret right now?
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secret is literally playing like riki doesn't exist holy shit
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Not buying dust agst SA is lol. So many sents wasted
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late sentry no grave what a team
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On June 07 2016 23:32 Neazbo wrote:
Who is the cancer who needs to be removed from Team Secret right now?
eh.....everyone?
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On June 07 2016 23:30 goody153 wrote:good job secret /s Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 23:24 Racket wrote:On June 07 2016 23:20 goody153 wrote:On June 07 2016 23:18 Racket wrote:On June 07 2016 23:15 goody153 wrote:On June 07 2016 23:14 Racket wrote:On June 07 2016 23:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On June 07 2016 23:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 07 2016 23:08 bourne117 wrote:On June 07 2016 23:06 OuchyDathurts wrote:
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They switch players during the allotted time they can switch players. They've played by the rules Valve has given them. That's just to QUALIFY for a direct invite. Meaning if you don't follow those you must go through open qualifiers. That doesn't mean if you change teams we will view success of your old team as success of your current team. Thats just fucking dumb to assume valve would think like that. It might annoy you, but that's how they're going to do it. Having a "stable" roster is forced by Valve now. Secret's roster is just as stable as anyone else. They won a major, they're getting an invite. The only thing they are "stable" at are 1) sucking tremendously; 2) casters still sucking their dicks. Even if there are teams that "currently" deserve an invite more than them, as long as Valve is a shady bastard, we can only assume Major win = TI Direct invite, no matter how far in the past. Unless winning major means shit now then idk what's the point of majors being a valve event either apart from free money for the players. Just what you said: free money (+ stability) for players. I don't want to argue about the same thing all over again, winning a Major 8 months ago with a different roster should not translate into a direct invite, that is my opinion. Why even call TI the biggest event if you are just gonna separate it with the quarterly valve event anyways. Just make TI a major event as well and crowdfund every major. Zero reasons to create disconnect between the events just make TI another major and the same crowdfunding as the other 3. Remove the concept of yearly championship if that was the case You don't get a direct invite to World Cup if you win the Copa America. A Major should be just another tournament held by the same organizer, they have the money and the means. Literally different game. You have one who is incredibly unstable etc and one who hasn't been on professional scene can suddenly become the best. And the other who needs you to prepare your entire life to be actually good.
If you want the game to move towards a real sport, everything connected to the game has to move towards the same goal. You can't expect things to go well when you do more than half of the work wrong.
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Secret seems to have no idea when they're gonna be ganked at all :/ they just let things happen to them these days
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CIS doto is a great thing to wake up to, boys.
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EPT
