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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 12 2016 17:13 GMT
#1121
On May 13 2016 02:10 Dracolich70 wrote:
Yeah, Capitalist has a point. Bulba would be picked up immediately, and not waste time playing on shitty NA teams for years. Wasn't Bulba the one that thought 7ckingMad was like a genius.


There was never an open slot for someone to pick him up immediately. Universe was on EG forever, and the moment he wasn't they got Bulba. Also Bone7 was on C9 until the end etc.

As for opinions on other players, Envy thought Biryu is a genius and a, and I quote, god-tier player.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 12 2016 17:13 GMT
#1122
Slark does well against Drow, but not as well as people think. Slark's ability to run at Drow has a lot to do with his dance, but you can hit Slark through his dance using Drow's ability. And late game, after dance ends you always have http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Hurricane_Pike to help you control him.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 12 2016 17:13 GMT
#1123
On May 13 2016 02:10 Souldivnr wrote:
Can somebody tell me the draft in EG vs Liquid game 1?

I predict 5 heroes vs 5 heroes
Earth Spirit played 100% of the time
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 12 2016 17:14 GMT
#1124
On May 13 2016 02:13 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 02:10 Souldivnr wrote:
Can somebody tell me the draft in EG vs Liquid game 1?

I predict 5 heroes vs 5 heroes
Earth Spirit played 100% of the time

ET will exist in one or more of the drafts. BM or DS will be played or banned.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 17:17:36
May 12 2016 17:15 GMT
#1125
On May 13 2016 02:09 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 02:07 Vadrigar wrote:
On May 13 2016 02:05 Diavlo wrote:
If anything I would say that apart from supports the hexagones should be reversed.

Supports: Liquid > EG
Mid: EG > Liquid
Offlane: EG > Liquid
Carry: Liquid > EG
Strategy: EG > Liquid
Teamfight: Liquid > EG


How is Bulbo better than MCgod? I may be biased but you know nothing.

Yeah
Better for the team in terms of knowledge and experience
In terms of actual raw play on offlane
bitch please

I mean as a contribution to the team.
In term of gameplay I'm not sure. This is a good patch for MC and he improved but I remember a time not that long ago where he was clearly the weakest link in Liquid and if they didn't pick him DS he would look pretty lost (and so they picked DS every game).
It's a little early to call for Bulba tho, he's pretty reliant of DS to look good as well. Time will tell I suppose.

On May 13 2016 02:10 Dracolich70 wrote:
Yeah, Capitalist has a point. Bulba would be picked up immediately, and not waste time playing on shitty NA teams for years. Wasn't Bulba the one that thought 7ckingMad was like a genius.

Btw, if Bulba is the tactical genius, does that take away from the view of PPD?

He meant as an analyst I believe, and in that way he's right, Bulba was the coach of EG at TI and of Liquid at Shangai, that's pretty good.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
May 12 2016 17:16 GMT
#1126
On May 13 2016 02:13 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 02:10 Dracolich70 wrote:
Yeah, Capitalist has a point. Bulba would be picked up immediately, and not waste time playing on shitty NA teams for years. Wasn't Bulba the one that thought 7ckingMad was like a genius.


There was never an open slot for someone to pick him up immediately. Universe was on EG forever, and the moment he wasn't they got Bulba. Also Bone7 was on C9 until the end etc.

As for opinions on other players, Envy thought Biryu is a genius and a, and I quote, god-tier player.
Point in case in relation to Capitalists point, was he would be picked up, which would be for other top teams.
LiangHao
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 12 2016 17:17 GMT
#1127
On May 13 2016 02:02 babysimba wrote:
Too bad they didn't include a category for consistency aka throw, would make for some fun discussions.

Flaming is the best kind of discussion.
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 12 2016 17:17 GMT
#1128
On May 13 2016 02:11 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 01:56 Logo wrote:
On May 13 2016 01:51 TanGeng wrote:
On May 13 2016 01:45 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 13 2016 01:44 haxhax wrote:
ALERT

The damage control is now in full effect

Except a flood of "draft won", "newbee threw" and "5manning OP" posts (unfortunately le balanced bird excuse has been retired due to recent events)

1. 5manning OP

2. Newbee did not throw, because they were not in advantage, they just conceded the game with the fight at top.

3. Draft was down to execution.

This is pretty much it. OG did well.
They almost undermined their early advantage by feeding some deaths to NewBee.
Mu blowing an early ravage on a Wisp kill wasn't great and ceded control of game.
NewBee itemization was poor after that.
OG executed well in all aspects the game.

And I have no idea what the Dark Seer pick was about. NewBee needed wave clear more than more team fight.


It seems like their whole draft was an overestimation of Phoenix, which is odd given they just beat Phoenix the game before. Like their only draft synergy and plan out would be Phoenix going ham until Slark comes online in a big way.

Like they built up this big Wombo Combo with the majority of the damage coming from Phoenix... but seems oblivious to OG's draft heading towards a lot of good fight disruption especially against Phoenix.


Don't know. Phoenix doesn't seem like a must draft when the opponent already drafts IO. You can go after that pick like disruptor + beastmaster instead.

IO phoenix synergy is low. Kaka just wanted to play Phoenix and got baited.
But effectiveness of drow strats in 6.87 is new to me.



That's my point though? I don't think Phoenix is must draft, especially against unfavorable match ups like IO. Like I totally agree Kaka wanted to play phoenix and they got baited into it.
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Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
May 12 2016 17:17 GMT
#1129
Capped the hexagon for those interested:

[image loading]
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 12 2016 17:19 GMT
#1130
#Hexagons
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malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
May 12 2016 17:19 GMT
#1131
lol nice interruption
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28096 Posts
May 12 2016 17:19 GMT
#1132
Surprise Cyka
Administrator
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 12 2016 17:20 GMT
#1133
fuck me...awesome setup they have there!
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 17:20:49
May 12 2016 17:20 GMT
#1134
Sick TL intro!

e: fata (in the middle) looks alot like synderwin
passive quaranstream fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 12 2016 17:20 GMT
#1135
Good old Liquid vs EG rivalry, cant beat it :D
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I hef gem
Profile Joined August 2015
Lithuania37 Posts
May 12 2016 17:21 GMT
#1136
lol I just can't,liquid always gets associated with razor xDD
Stephano <3
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
May 12 2016 17:21 GMT
#1137
Okay that's a pretty baller fucking stage right there.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 12 2016 17:21 GMT
#1138
The tournament overall seems pretty sick. The production issues seem almost entirely because we're stuck watching a side language instead of the Russian stream.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 12 2016 17:21 GMT
#1139
Lol Liquid failed at standing on there spot
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 17:22:34
May 12 2016 17:21 GMT
#1140
On May 13 2016 02:16 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 02:13 Talin wrote:
On May 13 2016 02:10 Dracolich70 wrote:
Yeah, Capitalist has a point. Bulba would be picked up immediately, and not waste time playing on shitty NA teams for years. Wasn't Bulba the one that thought 7ckingMad was like a genius.


There was never an open slot for someone to pick him up immediately. Universe was on EG forever, and the moment he wasn't they got Bulba. Also Bone7 was on C9 until the end etc.

As for opinions on other players, Envy thought Biryu is a genius and a, and I quote, god-tier player.
Point in case in relation to Capitalists point, was he would be picked up, which would be for other top teams.


What other top teams? Bulba is a NA player and until very recently they didn't really go overseas to play

Only top team that would have picked up Bulba was EG and they had offlane position locked down for years.
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